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  1. This is a misleading statement, as the antag clearly communicated to you that the radio was on and what you should say. You cannot claim to have not known it was going to go over the radio when they had quite obviously turned the microphone on. And again, even if we want to say it going out on the radio wasn't the intention, you were still faced with following a simple request or decapitation, and you chose decapitation, which I do not find to be a rational choice in that situation. You further provoked them after your radio message, calling them a terrorist, and stating that their instructions were "idiotic." None of that seems like something a rational person in this position should be doing to someone who has the means to (and threatened) to kill them. That was not taken out of context. Part of your justification in the ticket was that your character made a rational choice to have their head lopped off instead of someone else potentially getting hurt. I called attention to it because I do not find that to be a valid argument in this situation. The times where someone would rationally and willingly accept their own death like that are few and far between, and this is not one of them.
  2. I watched the entire interaction and I don't recall if the antag said they would kill Janse if she failed to kill Huizhong or just that they would do it themselves if she failed. It doesn't really have much bearing on the issue in my view. Your statement was clearly intended to draw attention to what was going on (as you confirmed in dchat by expressing shock that nobody reacted to it) and also followed the antag explicitly saying that your head would be removed if you did anything other than call the commander to your office. As I said in the ticket, I did not expect you to follow through with their demands to kill Huizhong, but you were at the mercy of the antag and they clearly expressed the means and motive to kill you if you did not do a simple task in that moment. You chose to believe that they were bluffing, which I don't think any reasonable person would do in that moment. In fact, you explicity said this in the ticket: There is not any rational decision for someone that ends in their immediate decapitation. It really crosses the line of what a reasonable and believable person would do in that situation. You are a consular on a ship, not someone in a spy flick, so the idea that you would rationally decide to be decapitated is bizarre. Even setting that aside, command whitelisted players are expected to not immediately shut down an antagonist's gimmick in normal situations, and this essentially did so. There were a million different ways for that to end that didn't result in your immediate death and also completely ending the antag's gimmick less than 5 minutes after it started. At no point did I say your RP was poor. I'm not sure where this is coming from.
  3. The context doesn't really matter, there's no tolerance for comments of that nature, especially considering there are children who play this game. It is very uncomfortable regardless though. Our normal escalation of bans goes from 1 day>3 days>7 days>permanent. I had considered making this a week ban, but it was going to be your fourth ban in as many weeks; you also had two 3 day bans in a 3 week period, so given the severity of it, I decided to go with a permanent ban. I recognize that you're taking responsibility and realize it shouldn't have been said, but I'm going to deny this. You may make another in a month.
  4. I will unban you, please ensure you are familiar with the rules before playing again.
  5. Your old account was banned for violating the server's ERP rules and you are a serial ban evader. Appeal denied.
  6. I've considered this for a bit (and been delayed by the holiday). Ultimately it is hard for me to believe that you are genuine when your initial response was to go to the discord and say that being banned for this was stupid and "I was permabanned for slurs lol, lmao." Appeal denied
  7. It is not. This would be like saying you have a dominian primary edict breaker who is on the ship, even though it's mechanically impossible to play that. You left out the order preceding this in which you were told to not be there, yet continued to remain until almost being shot, apparently. You were an off-duty, unarmed G2 that was ordered to not be there, remained until you were shot at and then told to not move. In my opinion saying that you were "ordered" to remain there after you were quite clearly told to not is bad faith, as you should not have been there. Yes, the crew armory was opened, but you were unarmed. The Captain told everyone to not be on deck 3 medical, yet you remained or otherwise went up there after the order. I will grant that perhaps you missed the message on Common, but the fact of the matter is that you had no legitimate reason to be there after being ordered not to, then inserted yourself into the situation. You are claiming that you were only there to defend the captain, yet had no method of doing so, and are simultaneously claiming that you did not know they were hostile as they stood there firing at crewmembers. Standing there and demanding the identification of armed, obviously hostile persons as an unarmed off-duty crewmember is questionable at best and a blatant disregard of self-preservation rules at worst. I will be upholding the ruling. Locking and archiving.
  8. I have a few questions/comments for now, and ask that responses are kept brief - making incredibly long-winded posts just makes it more difficult for this to be resolved. @Owen I asked you this in the staff discord, but want you to reply here for full disclosure, the original ahelp mentioned that @Fluffy was trying to slip the antags on soap, and this doesn't appear to have been addressed in the ticket. To start off, this is not relevant, considering G2s are not allowed to be security officers. They are not an off-duty officer, because they cannot be an officer. The below information is also not relevant for the same reasoning. While your character may not be frail and unarmored, but they were certainly unarmed. Looking at the logs, I see no indication that CL was ordered to remain in the third deck of medical by the captain. In fact, they specifically said to remain out less than 3 minutes before the gunfire started again: [2023-12-26 03:49:31.101] crs-ad6Y SAY: *******/(Michiko Kirishima) : (Ceti Basic) <b>Stay out of third deck medical boarders!</b> Regarding the "order" to remain, I am not sure who the captain was speaking to at this point, but it was certainly not an order to stay in the dangerous area, but to not expose oneself. They then called an incoming assault. [2023-12-26 03:51:06.039] crs-ad6Y SAY: ********/(Michiko Kirishima) : (Ceti Basic) I took a shot for you fucking idiot, stay here dont move. [2023-12-26 03:52:14.494] crs-ad6Y SAY: ********/(Michiko Kirishima) : (Ceti Basic) Incoming assault third deck medical. Yet after these things is when CL begins to question the raiders as to their identification, multiple times, despite ongoing hostilities. While at that point you may have been outside medical, the question I have for you is why were you there in the first place? I am struggling to see a legitimate reason for an off-duty and unarmed G2 to have remained in the area despite orders to the contrary and the presence of hostiles. Additionally, I find it hard to believe you were not aware of the vaurca being hostile when you greeted the captain in medical, and not 2 minutes later they said this: [2023-12-26 03:45:29.942] crs-ad6Y SAY: *********/(Michiko Kirishima) : (Ceti Basic) <b>do not engage the vaurca</b> - and for the love of god dont approach them unarmed. While I understand the round was chaotic, as I was playing it, it seems to me there were multiple indications of who the hostiles were that were ignored.
  9. I'm willing to unban you since you've taken the time to read the rules and understand that this is an hrp server. Please also do not treat staff PMs as a joke.
  10. Hi, sorry for the delay. We took a look at everything and have come to a decision. The AI did declare it to be sabotage immediately, so it is hard to blame @SatinsPristOTD for then calling it sabotage. The main issue that we saw in the logs, though, was that the XO then used their prior (non-canon and therefore OOC) knowledge of INDRA explosions to "back up" that the explosion was sabotage simply from looking on cameras. That said, we will leave the warning in place but adjust the verbiage, as we do not believe there was harm in the initial claim of sabotage, given the AI had stated it prior, but rather the continuation of the claim via metagaming knowledge of the INDRA and how it explodes from previous non-canon incidents. To clear up a few things as well: Something that would cause massive damage and disable/destroy a large portion of the ship, like the SM delaminating or ammunition storage exploding, is not canon. Common sense could be applied here - if the incident in question could've potentially caused great loss of life/limb/property, it's probably not canon. Additionally, you cannot use degrees that are not related to your job to claim knowledge of something that would be way outside of your job description, such as reactor sabotage as an XO. Otherwise we would have security officers who tried to claim they knew surgery to treat other officers, or electrical engineering to hack into places. If there's nothing else, this will be locked and archived in 24 hours.
  11. People sitting on surgery and then ganking people through the walls is an admin issue and should be ahelped. The ability was nerfed awhile back to where it required you to be within a certain range (normal viewing range), though it does still work through walls
  12. Hi, me and @Lmwevil will be handling this complaint. @Roostercat please post your side when you have a chance
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