Ricky_the_banshee
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23 hours ago, ReadThisNamePlz said:
Okay so I took a while to think on this.
I do not think @Ricky_the_banshee meant anything negative by this at all. I genuinely think you just fucked up your verbiage. This happens. I'll talk with Arrow to see if he can get the strike removed.Thanks for looking into this. I would be lying if I said this situation on its own wasn't embarassing enough since I have to sit here and awkwardly explain this IC message that, from a glance alone, looks VERY bad. I am happy you guys understand that I meant no ill-will at all.
I would also like to apologize for my conduct in the general chat around the time I discovered the strike. Admittedly, I was seeing red when I got the strike, not fully understanding what it was that I wrote as my character that led to it.
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53 minutes ago, Loorey said:
Hi.
I was DM'd by someone that saw the conversation taking place, when I took a minute to go over the conversation to get context, it looked like you were just using the word 'dreg' for 'brown', which, your reply clearly implies looking at it. I had the entire context with the hair colour conversation, though, you specifically replying to that one message with just 'brown' made it seem like you were doing that, at least in my eyes. It could just be a misunderstanding, no bad blood, though if it is I recommend you be a bit more careful with what you reply to as that can quickly change context. That is all I really have to add, if there's anything else to clarify let me know, otherwise I am leaving the rest to read.
Hey, it's all good.
Like I said before, I'm not a huge fan of necessarily calling this a 'staff complaint' due to how much of a negative connotation it weights in. From a staff member perspective, I can totally understand how the negative implications would take the forefront whilst investigating a concern from another community member.
To make it absolutely clear. I was not trying to make a racial joke in IC, or have some double meaning behind it OOCly in case anyone involved in the complaint or observing may have these suspicions. It was just a very poor choice of a message to stich that message too.
What I just hope is that this misunderstanding is cleared up, and that people understand that this was just that. A misunderstanding, and to my part, poorly worded response to an IC message. In restrospect, just a few extra words could've made it clear that I was referring to the hair, but due to external distractions while I was engaged with that chat, I ended up going for the worst one in that context.
If its possible, I would like for the strike to be rescinded. If any other else needs to be said, I will do what I can to answer them
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BYOND Key: rickymadenson
Staff BYOND Key: Loorey
Game ID: This occured on the Aurora discord, specifcally the SCC-Relay channel.Reason for complaint: Hello. Earlier this day, I was partaking in the Relay channel in-character as my character, Eva Meier. I regularly do this on occassions where I have downtime between work or just downtime in general to partake in some IC chatter.
I had a conversation with another character ICly, Tesset Gainsbloom and others. The chatter between our characters mostly involved talks about strict parents, and jokes about dying their hair.
During this talks. Gainsbloom revealed that her hair colour was unnatural, and that she kept her 'true hair colour' a secret. During this exchange, Meier tried to poke at it to get an answer. From one of the exchanges, Meier commented on how her mother would refer to her as a 'dreg' for dying her hair at a younger, rebellious age.
Upon this exchange. Gainsbloom was unfamiliar with the term drag, but also included in her messenging that she would keep her hair colour a secret.
This is where the incident occured, and I believe, where the misunderstanding took place:
In retrospect, I realize now that it may have appeared as if Meier was implying that 'dreg = brown', and I am here to make clear that this was NOT my intend with this message. her comment was intended to be a 'gotcha' to the hair colour secret that Gainsbloom was keeping. I did not intend for Meier to imply in any shape or form that Dreg and 'Brown' is somehow a synonymous thing.
Evidence/logs/etc: This is the message exchange from before.
And this is the actual strike that I was given.
Additional remarks: Again, I do not like calling this a complaint, but I would have appreciated if this was at least talked about to clear things up. I understand strikes are ultimately up to staff's discretion as they just one of many tools for staff to deploy, and given the implications that were assumed, this could have been a much severe punishment otherwise. Nevertheless, I do not think this strike justifies remaining as a permanent stain on my record.
I only discovered this message a little later after the initial post was already made, and I will admit that it got me fuming and see red given the accusation. Thankfully, after checking things with a staff member and looking back at the message in context, I see why Loorey could've interpretated that message the way it was. -
After some thinking, I will say that I am genuinely in favour of acknowledgement of character contributions in events, or rounds in general. Anything to push the narrative forward, and for that narrative to be rewarded would theoretically inspire more players to want to partake and contribute in rounds other than just for the sake of being there. I too, an am oldie, and I see where alot of the sentiment, feedback and even frustrations that spark from this topic stems from.
It can be incredibly soul-sucking or tedious to feel as if the contribution you had in a round was largely unrecognized. You discovered the Secret Tomb of Nyarlatotep? "Archaeologists uncover the tomb!". Awesome, great, I guess you were a part of it -- "HORIZON MAKES BREAKTHROUGH COMMUNICATION WITH PURPOSE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PICTURES OF SOMEONE SPECIFICALLY SHAKING THE HAND OF A PURPOSE BOT, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE REPORTEDLY IMAGES OF THIS." So that interaction may as well have never happened other than being a passerby memory that will unintentionally sound to others as bragging. I can't speak on how the staff or lore writers feel this part, I can imagine there are some elements from their side that might be grating or bothersome to write around.I think the individual deaths of crew after times more prominently featured than their individual contributions, and I agree that its been deeply rooted in the server culture to cheer and guffaw and close encounters with death, than some of the meaningful interactions beyond just combat encounters.
However, I will say that I do urge the consideration into the possiblity of "glory seekers" that has been attributed or argued as a potential fear. While it's easy to simply look past them and dismiss their attempts as fruitless, or regard them as asinine on the grander OOC part. I think not addressing it will just allow a polar opposite variation of the "the thrill for death" to swap into the "thrill for glory".Where ones participation instead becomes one's attempt to be a main character. Simply dismissing them as some "loud minority" that are being silly with their characters and antics, ignoring as a festering problem is what led to a culture of anticipating who kicks the bucket at the next major event. And while it may not be everyone that partakes in it, the fact many recognize it as an existing phenomenon for it to be talked about even here should be telling of how much of an impact it can (sub)consciously have on people.
tl;dr just give people a model or a name reference pls. But yes, main character wannabes deserve their kneecaps broken even harder for it, and should be ignored as a "minor issue" were this shift to come.-
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I agree. Let's replace Humans with Roegadyn
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Agreed.
It kind of breaks the immersion considering alot of these calls are supposedly coming from people that are all the way down planetside.Their access to the common channels at times makes it feel like they are just a department away, if it wasn't for the occassional reminders that they are not.
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Agreed with the posts above, and most all else.
This mechanic so far has only caused alot of confusion and dissary, in particulair in the main discord. Suggestions and implications were made that this mechanic extends to other roles outside command as well. It sounds like there is alot of confusion on what exactly this "age weight" affects.Posts above provide screnshot evidence of the lines in coding that showcase that it mainly affects command, (which even then IMO, is still a net negative as it disables player freedom due to mechanical priorities implemented.)
This has not stopped the debate from spiraling out of control, with fears that this will still somehow end up leaking down the line into other roles. With how obscure of a line this was to, a quite apparent, many people it only seems to serve as a potential fear at how this could diminish people's choice in what character achetypes they would wish to portray in said roles.Even within the position of command. It is nice to see seasoned, mature and older types of characters in their slots with more gray on their head than healthy hair. Player freedom should still take priority in that matter. If our command staff will consist of a bunch of 30-40 year olds, then that's simply what people are playing.
We have existing restrictions such as whitelists, species limitations and hardcoded minimum ages for command slots already. There is honestly no need for a mechanic like this, other than to cause a needless 'meta' to gain a better chance at a slot.
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I'm pleased to announce that after months of juggling around things in life, I've edited 'the Challenges SOHEC faces & Corruption' section of the app in the document!
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On 12/01/2024 at 02:47, NewOriginalSchwann said:
@Ricky_the_banshee This appears to still be incomplete or otherwise missing. Will you be able to write this section in the near future?
Oh, hey. Absolutely. I've been looking back and forth at the time to sit down and finish writing this up, but life has been VERY busy (Work, personal life, Uni, list goes on.). I'll try and make some time in a few weeks to see if I can finally wrap everything up.
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23 hours ago, dessysalta said:
Player who wrote the announcement here.
In all honesty, I didn't figure there was no such thing as a residential security force prior to being PMed by an admin after the fact to let me know that residential is a grey zone. My intent with the bulletin post was just to add additional depth and show that the events (of which I participated in both, albeit not crew-sided) had more impact than a simple 2 hour gameplay session (and I have no issue with my character not being the "hero" because I never wrote it with that intent or contempt). It felt unreasonable to assume that, in the event the Horizon is being bombarded and boarded by eight ne'er-do-wells, the residential deck is completely unaffected, moreover that a legitimately qualified Head of Security wouldn't try to organize at least a small squad in case things took a turn for the worst, and instead just kick their feet up like nothing's happening. In retrospect I probably should have consulted staff, but there's a good point to be made if I actually had no idea I should have done so in the first place.
Hey there. Just again, I didn't meant to personally attack you over this. I want to reiterate that this announcement happened to be one of the main topics of that night that became a discussion point on the relay, so I used it to present my case for what I deemed an issue following the chat.
I think what mainly caused some raised eyebrows was that very implication of assuming leadership "downstairs" through the choice of words. "As the commander present and below resdeck" implied your character assumed direct leadership over a off-screen detail. It was one of the problems people had back on the relay when it was first brought up. It may have been unintentional, but it still gave off a sense of self-importance towards the character that was imposed with little as much consultation from the community or staff for that matter,. a I understand now that this was written without the knowledge of there not being any known security/armory present on the resdeck as per the wiki's information (which frankly, is still a problem with how the resdeck is mostly orientated around headcanon to allow the slice-of-life elements to blossom), but ultimately changes nothing about the issue regarding imposing one's character with a "self-relevant" role.
After all the responses, I do agree that there should some security presence down in the resdeck shouldn't be ignored. I also agree that I don't realistically expect resdeck occupants to sitback and kick their feet up on their imaginary office desks like its all nothing, but I also think that becoming proactive shouldn't equate the shenaniganry of "resdeck militia" or "organized security details" when again, nothing in the wiki backs up the possibility. Not to mention on top of it all, it only hypes up people's self-importance when it comes to pretending their characters still had a "relevant" role in an event they were not actively present for during a round on-server. No command character should (un)intentionally impose this notion that their character can elevate themselves off-screen with a vital role such as this. The ambiguity of who or what organizes evacuation, security and emergency services on the resdeck should be left within that ambiguity. We have a rule/IC-regulation that only those on-shift as command staff are permitted to assert their authority as command staff, whereass off-duty command have little to no powers and are no different from a visitor/passenger/assistant.On 16/11/2023 at 23:26, dessysalta said:How about having staff-written announcements directly after the event that details possible damage or conflict that occurred below deck? I.e. Another pirate event occurs with ship combat, and admins mention part of the deck is evacuated and sealed off. Player characters can be chosen individually or not at all to have been affected by this, which solves the problem of characters proclaiming heroic nonsense/wounds/etc whilst also allowing for participation or involvement with those who either couldn't attend or were playing as a different character.
I was generally surprised this wasn't a thing in the first place, and staff-written announcements never hurt in these matters. I feel like alot of these problems during events would be solved if there was something like a resdeck bunker for players to (optionally) evacuate their characters to. Not everybody has to be present in it, and the decision on whether their character remains in their quarters for safety or prefer this hypothetical bunker would ltimately still leave the choice with the player on where there character was off-screen.
On the note of player characters being affected by this, I never said that this shouldn't be the case. How characters are mentally or physiologically affected by this despite only being on the resdeck shouldn't be a problem at all. These events end up being high stakes, and with everything located on a single ship, its more likely for people to feel the (after)effects of tehse events more prominently than back when the station was just the workplace and people lived in their places of residence (sometimes these places being outside of Tau Ceti). So long as we don't have "John Chef mentioning that time when he built an improv flamethrower from his kitchen tools and equipment to fend off the invading lii'dra attacking the resdeck communal bathrooms" or "Jane Captain informing people they specifically were the ones that coordinated everybody to the resdeck vault because they are the ones who simply felt like promoting themselves with that vital position", these events can have lasting effects on even those who weren't directly involved in-round and that shouldn't change.-
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On 14/10/2023 at 02:08, La Villa Strangiato said:
Howdy. A background for curators and librarians is appreciated. However, at the moment we'd like you to change the somewhat unfortunate acronym.
On your document you mentioned that you'd like to add challenges the organization faces and its relations with other human nations. If you'd like to add this, we can give it a more in-depth look once everything is finished.
Works for me! I'll get to it as soon as possible. I've been wanting to expand a little more much earlier, but IRL obligations meant I had to focus on those instead. o7
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I've added a "enviroment and climate" section as well as part of UNESCO's mission involves enviromental protection. Please give it a read and let me know what you think!
Edit: It also features some of SECHO's relationship with the megacorps, namely Zeng-Hu and Hephaestus.
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30 minutes ago, Ublicto said:
Why not Samarkand? It's a very old city with plenty of great monuments. It is also in the middle of Eurasia which might be a good location for a group dedicated to preserving human culture.
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13 hours ago, restricted said:
I like this a lot! My only point of contention is Paris is stinky and in terms of the broader scope of humanity not very historical. Something around the fertile crescent would be more reflective of the cradle of humanity/civilization, or in Africa where it is theorized humanity first evolved from monke would be more my speed, and also make this less eurocentric.
After some thinking, and if this is acceptable to lore team, I've come up with a couple of places that might fit the bill when it comes to historical alternatives. I'll list them down here!
- Cairo. Egypt [outside of Cairo is the world's largest museum, the Grand Egyptian Museum!]
-Varanasi, India [Birthplace of Hinduism and the oldest city of India]
- Damascus, Syria [One of the oldest cities in the world. Funnily enough, it's also subject to an intervention plan by UNESCO to conserve the ancient parts that still stand to this day which would make it an ironic fit for SECHO as well]
So personally I'm inclined to go with Damascus as an alternative to Paris. I could rewrite the history part by having SECHO's HQ move from Paris to Damascus for the same reason it was originally meant to stay in Paris. But I'd love to hear other people's suggestions as well
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Lore Impact (Small/Medium/Large): Small/Medium
Species: Human
Short Description: A successor to UNESCO for the Solarian Alliance which handles culture & heritage protection, handles preservation projects (primarily) on Earth and other colonies.
How will this be reflected on-station?: It could work as a background for Librarians and Curators with a Solarian background. Provided they worked for one of the many field offices, or mayhaps if they worked low-grade civic work like local government business. Could also work for Solarians (especially Eathers) when they talk about their homeplants like architecture or monuments. ("Oh, the Thinker? You might as well watch a holo exhibition live because they won't put the real deal out this year..."). Maybe even Originals from Silversun who struggle with their heirlooms against the Expats, with SECHO acting as their only defence that stops Idris from further replacing their people's identity.
Does this addition do anything not achieved by what already exists?: The Sol Alliance received a big update this year, and while it covers several departments regarding the Civilian branch’s role in state management and the Militaristic branch’s history and inevitable downfall, there is little to no mention of the large scale unification process and cultural integration of the Alliance by any notable branch. Old lore once mentioned that UNESCO initially underwent a project to preserve some monuments due to the ecological disasters before the Alliance was formed. It’s possible that during the large reworks, this was simply omitted until a more extensive rewrite could be done, but either way I figured it’d be nice to have a framework to start off from and replace “UNESCO”.
Do you understand that the project may change over time in ways you may not foresee once it is handed over to the Lore Team: Absolutely. I view the canonization apps usually as a proposal for a framework or new concept which can be expanded upon as time goes. Lore devs might have unique interpretations which can help enhance it to the point it becomes an operational segment to our lore.
Long Description: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Ebs4hgq2JQiFmv2ZsGtqWpv74R6Y3gQ_a53JZodtLY/edit?usp=sharing
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Birthdays sound cool. If devs can feasibly accomplish this system, I'm all for it. +1
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Hey guys, I'm glad to see this suggestion is getting some traction, and I love all the different takes and proposals made for a possible new ruling on what exactly constitutes as acceptable for the residentials. I just wanna clarify some things in case I forgotten to express this in my original post
- The example I provided does NOT make any suggestions that the character or anyone under their supposed leadership engaged with any of the threats directly. However, events in the past did led to a off-screen participation of characters on the resdeck fending off a hostile force.
- After some consideration due to all the replies, I think a small security presence could work. I believe Flully's proposal of relegating those services to an NPC-like off-screen team of bounds/synthetics/IPCs would make for the better compromise.
- Characer backgrounds are completely different topic in my opinion, and is something which itself already has written rules and guidelines for what's allowed.
-The residential decks have a couple of established rules but nothing that regulates the problem I presented in my original post. Currently there is nothing that stops the playerbase from making claims that their character was fighting off some Dominian Edict Hunters that are thrasing and ilegally searching their dorms while the Dominian Navy was holding up the Occupational Deck in some future hypothetical Dominia event (such as the case with the residential decks militia fending off what I believe where SRF/SFA pirates which attacked the Horizon).
And to clarify further on this matter: At the moment the Residential Deck does NOT have anything akin to a security department downstairs, at least not according to the wiki. One could reasonably assume that there would be one, but thus far this is all largely headcanon and interpetrated in various ways, which I believe led to this suggestion that Command can simply take reigns as some 2ndary Commander with similar authorities within the residential decks. It's something that shouldn't be used lightly given its implications. Having an established NPC-like sec department that simply patrols and captures criminals who flee for their residence to seek shelter could be handled by these off-screen characters.
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2 minutes ago, greenjoe said:
I'm mixed on this, while op claims of a resdeck milita is not ideal, there canonically being ZERO protections down there other then the stuff upstairs seems a bit hard to believe too.
I had considered that the lack of defenses itself could be something notably odd about such a large ship. However, I still think its a more preferable outcome than having each canon event result with characters making claims of a "kill count" due to some off-screen fight that might've taken place. I think the last thing the relay could use is post-event IC relays stacked with messages of characters claiming how "Coalition pirates" bursted into their quarters and how the ended up in a firefight that miracuously led to no casualties other than the attackers. I think would only worsen my concerns about snowflakism and self-imposed credit from events.
We really need a title for this setting.
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Posted · Edited by Ricky_the_banshee
Idk. The Orion Spur has always worked, or just referring to the server as 'Aurora'.
I can understand that it's not entirely specific, since Orion Spur is simply the name of the setting or 'setting's location', whereas Aurora refers to the station which we have long departed from, but it works. They're identifiers to our unique setting, and I think the wiki itself does a fine job explaining what our setting is.