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Byond key: Sleepy Wolf

Discord key: sleepy wolf#6669 (nice, right?)

Character Name: Kobi Goldman

Item name: Moneymaker Cybernetic Eye Overlay

Item function(s): An implant in the head for Goldman that allows him to scan any items from afar with a price scanner, and determine its value on the markets. It also activates a light overlay (similar to borgs) on his eyes, making them golden when the scanner is active.

Item description: An advanced golden holographic overlay chip installed into prosthetic eyes. Manufactured by Zeng-Hu for Idris Businessmen in the Eridani Corporate sector, this specific chip is engraved with a signature, and small note. "For the man who sees my true value. With Love, Renae."

Why is your character bringing this item to work?: It has use - material value. It's a piece of Eridani technology, which is so heavily depended on. Also, Goldman used to be in sales and marketing!

How did your character obtain this item: Connections to the Corporate Sector, as well as a little fling with a Zeng-Hu nano-engineer.

What value does this item have to your character, and what story does it tell?:  I'd say about 10,000c, but that's what the eye overlay is telling me. It's painfully obvious what motivates Goldman. He's a simple man, and loves simple little gadgets and tools.

Sprites: The overlay and the chip to be activated.

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Item name: Platinum Membership Banking Chip

Item function(s): An implanted membership card to an exclusive bank. Activating the chip in hand will say,

*Platinum Chip* states eloquently, "Welcome, Platinum Member and Esteemed Colleague. Please retrieve your funds at the nearest Trade Hub. Please ensure you keep this Platinum Membership Chip in you at all times, unless for emergency anonymous withdraws. Have a nice day, and stay with Lazarus Banking for all your private and personal purchases."

Item description: A Platinum Membership Chip with Lazarus Banking, a subsidiary of Idris Banking that focuses completely on private and anonymous banking. Membership with Lazarus is exclusive, and Membership Chips are the only way to authenticate. The chip is usually implanted near the heart in an EMP proof slot for security purposes. There is a small button on the chip.

Why is your character bringing this item to work?: After working in the Corporate Sector of Eridani for most of his life, Goldman was invited to pay a large investment price on an exclusive Platinum Membership with the new (at the time) Lazarus Banking that offers a private set of funds separate from all other accounts. Similar to people buying into Crypto scams today, Goldman loves the 'brand new!!' and 'exclusive!!' idea of a banking chip that is completely private, anonymous and installed directly into his body.

How did your character obtain this item: Story above.

What value does this item have to your character, and what story does it tell?: A HEFTY amount of credits that connects to the private Membership Account. This shows Goldman's ideals of listening to 'new' and 'innovative' ideas in the field - which I've done a lot in trying to get people to sell their ideas to Goldman at group and private meetings.

Sprites: The chip.

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rewrote the platinum chip
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+1 for sure. I love Goldman and how my different characters interact with him.  Sleepy is probably the best roleplayer in the server and I'm 100% certain they'll make these items worth it.

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goldman is exceptionally based, these are all pretty rad. I think the only thing that could present an issue is the platinum chip for the people who review this since it's actually larger than the station account I think? 

+1 tho

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I love everything about this, and I'm absolutely going to try to rip the chip out of his chest even if it kills me. Goldman's a great char to observe or interact with, regardless if the interaction itself is friendly or hostile.

 

Gets a +1 from me.

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I'm a simple man. I see Kobi Goldman, I give it a plus 1. I genuinely do not think I've had a single bad interaction, both as antag, or as crew, with Kobi, and giving him some swag to specialize himself definitely would not go to waste.

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100000 credits is waaay too many. I would be more inclined to accept this if you lowered the amount, and also put a stipulation that the chip would need to be redeemed off-station, somehow. Maybe at a special bank or something. That way it retains it's value, but also cannot be used to powergame and go off to buy a Supermatter crystal. 

 

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the intent for Goldman's emergency funds is for him to be 1000% selfish about using it - he won't use it when he can use corporate funds. these are his private funds for private ventures and self-safety, which is definitely not going to be used all the time, if at all by him. it's mostly there to show what kind of person he is. something to be used as leverage in roleplay.

 

the 100,000 credits is i think the amount in a station department account, and i found it to just be aesthetically pleasing since it's nice and rounded out. it's the amount that's in one station departmental account, and 5x what's in the Captain's private account usually, so i felt it made sense as a savings number, since 40k is probably the base annual income of a mid-level or upper level worker? and Goldman's worked with money his whole life, he's nearly 50 - honestly really old for his career - it feels right he'd have 100,000 credits in savings.

 

also i would definitely prefer it to be able to be installed into an account - the intent is that it's special money already, because it's untraced and can be redeemed anywhere. so giving the option to put it in an account would be an interesting reward for antags that steal it, just so they know it's not fake and can transfer it into tangible credit chips if they wanna roll around in cash.

 

tell me what ya think @ShesTrying

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The entire station account is 75k. If you pool together every department account and the station accounts, you would have 140k. There isn't really any way to justify having such an absurd amount of money stashed away, nor giving anyone access to it. I understand and appreciate the idealism behind Goldman not tending to use it, but still, it's way too much of an advantage to Goldman.

Again, I really can't accept this unless the chip is a) unable to be redeemed on station, and lowered significantly or b) lowered to a much more realistic amount (under 8k credits)

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The "exchange rate" used to be 3 credits being 1 dollar today. 100.000 credits are approx. 33.000 Dollars. This is really far from being an absurd amount of money. The station's funds historically being ridiculously low is not a good argument here, in my opinion. 

While I question the actual usefulness of these custom items, they sure are hella cool and creative, I'd find it pretty nice to see it accepted.

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4 hours ago, KingOfThePing said:

The "exchange rate" used to be 3 credits being 1 dollar today. 100.000 credits are approx. 33.000 Dollars. This is really far from being an absurd amount of money. The station's funds historically being ridiculously low is not a good argument here, in my opinion. 

While I question the actual usefulness of these custom items, they sure are hella cool and creative, I'd find it pretty nice to see it accepted.


The exchange rate has been removed from the wiki to prevent arguments like this.
Given that we do not have a exchange rate on the wiki, this argument is as pointless as any other argument about removed lore.

The point remains that we have 140k in the station accounts.
A custom item that can give a player 71% of the money in all station accounts whenever the player in question chooses to is a very substantial ic advantage and raises balance concerns.
There is no way something like that would be merged.

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Just saying "the exchange rate was removed from the wiki", something I am clearly not up to date with, would have been enough, you know. 

Considering this, which I did not know, then yes, 100.000 credits are a bit much. Yet still I argue, that, while these funds are a lot, they are not readily available. It's also not like you can easily spend that money on something that gives you an advantage. Maybe cut it down in half or whatever. 

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thinkin about this. i'm thinking just having the platinum membership be a platinum membership for the bank account, something there's only a few of. i'll rewrite the lore for the membership chip and post again with the update.

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Item name: Platinum Membership Banking Chip

Item function(s): An implanted membership card to an exclusive bank. Activating the chip in hand will say,

*Platinum Chip* states eloquently, "Welcome, Platinum Member and Esteemed Colleague. Please retrieve your funds at the nearest Trade Hub. Please ensure you keep this Platinum Membership Chip in you at all times, unless for emergency anonymous withdraws. Have a nice day, and stay with Lazarus Banking for all your private and personal purchases."

Item description: A Platinum Membership Chip with Lazarus Banking, a subsidiary of Idris Banking that focuses completely on private and anonymous banking. Membership with Lazarus is exclusive, and Membership Chips are the only way to authenticate. The chip is usually implanted near the heart in an EMP proof slot for security purposes. There is a small button on the chip.

Why is your character bringing this item to work?: After working in the Corporate Sector of Eridani for most of his life, Goldman was invited to pay a large investment price on an exclusive Platinum Membership with the new (at the time) Lazarus Banking that offers a private set of funds separate from all other accounts. Similar to people buying into Crypto scams today, Goldman loves the 'brand new!!' and 'exclusive!!' idea of a banking chip that is completely private, anonymous and installed directly into his body.

How did your character obtain this item: Story above.

What value does this item have to your character, and what story does it tell?: A HEFTY amount of credits that connects to the private Membership Account. This shows Goldman's ideals of listening to 'new' and 'innovative' ideas in the field - which I've done a lot in trying to get people to sell their ideas to Goldman at group and private meetings.

Sprites: The chip.

 

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