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Well, we've only ever seen America following the events of the Great War of 2077, and then only small pockets of the country. But Im more interested in whatever happened to the other contentions, more specifically Eurasia. Thought most people here have showed themselves as lore buffs of Elder Scrolls, Im sure we have some lore theorists for Fallout sitting around. I have a theory or two of my own.


China


During the events of Mothership Zeta, you get to see the Earth on a larger scale, most importantly you see Asia. Or, at least you see the aftermath of the nuclear strike there. Everything is shrouded by nuclear smog, giving the impression that China, Russia, all the red menaces were just wiped completely off the face of the Earth following 2077. But the human race has a knack for surviving when it probably shouldn't.


I hold the theory that, while it's population would have been completely and utterly decimated because they didn't have anything like Project Safehouse, people would survive, just like people did outside of America's vaults. A mere fraction of China and Russia still stand, but only 1 to 2 percent of their population as of 2077. By my calculations, I would estimate the population of China at 7,100,000 directly after the fall of the nuclear bombs. Assuming the population drops even more because of radiation poisoning, social dissent, and sterility cause by radiation and ghoulism, let's say that it drops 75 perfect in 200 year. This all leaves the population at a horribly low population of 1,775,000 during the events of Fallout 3. So, what's happened to the people and governing bodies in this time?


Well, obviously China would dissolve, there was no way they could salvage their government following the Sino-American war, AND the Great War bombings. So in the power vacuum that followed sometime after, Japan moves in to try to take control after the events of WW2 and the Resource Wars. Japan forms a pseudo-NCR, trying to reform and create the continent in their own image at the cost of populations they integrated into their government. But just like the NCR can't keep a full handle over the Khans, the Legion, and other inside and outside sources, neither can these Japanese aggressors.


Inside mainland China you find warlords controlling large swaths of lands, created in the image of pre-war Chinese criminal organizations like the Triads. These warlords assume control with staches of illegal weapons garnered during the lawlessness before and after the Great War, and their top warriors are given electrified katanas based on the shock swords ancient Chinese officers were given, and power armour salvaged from Americans who couldn't get out of China in time following the Sino-American war, decorated to match appearance of ancient Shogun armour.


So, what becomes of the people left? Well, it's been established that much of China is just a radioactive hellhole. So, I would hazard a guess that a large portion of China's population are now Ghouls, 90+ percent, probably the only aspect that let them survive for so long following the Great War. But it does make the situation grim, as eventually they will all become feral. And that's why I only take this lore theory to the events of 2277, because by the time the events of New Vegas take place, the entire population of China is feral, and only small pockets of humans survive, trying to beat back hoards of feral ghouls and Japanese invaders as they try to take control of the land.


The Soviet Union


For some reason in the Fallout universe, the roles of America's greatest enemy fallowing WW2 was changed between the USSR and China, and theres nothing into the lore to explain this. But, the USSR and US obviously had better relations in this timeline, as the USSR even had embassies and constant diplomatic relations between the two countries. So, America and Russia were all friendly, friendly, and I can only assume because they had a large nuclear arsenal, and were closer to their biggest enemy, China.


So, lets assume during WW2 Russian expended it's own nuclear arsenal on China because it was the enemy of their friend, the Americans. This could explain why China is so fucked up, as seen from space. But obviously China wouldn't want to retaliate back so badly, they're probably want to do their damnedest to fuck up America more than their allies. So Im going to assume that Russia is still Russia, just with the threat of nuclear fallout poisoning it's people, and a few more craters in the ground where high target areas like the Kremlin, Leningrad, and Berlin used to be.


For a time after 2077, I don't think much would change for Russia, until after 2277, when huge amounts of 'zombies' start to attack Russia from the south. Since Russia wouldn't want to risk their military forces fighting against what could be a zombie apocalypse after the nuclear apocalypse, they conscript a civilian defense force specifically to defend the Russian/Chinese border from the ghouls while the actual military forces there pulled back.


Eventually some of the ghouls they were part of the Chinese Warlord armies started to make their way to Russia, carrying with them the power armour, guns and swords they were given. It took a lot to put them down, but eventually this conscript force would be able to outfit small numbers of themselves with military grade weapons and power armour, and it was going to take the Russians years to find out their civilian conscripts were becoming better equipped than their own military.


They only found out when this rag time group of power armoured militants decided to fight back against the military that had pulled back away from the border, sick and tired of being forced to fight against the ghouls against their will. They were able to beat the military and more fights than one would think, but they had one thing the militants couldn't beat. Numbers. Eventually they were crushed under the heel of the Soviet army, and those who weren't killed in battle were executed. The weapons and power armour were taken for the military, but they still had no interest in risking their military on 'zombies' so they just ceded from there, letting the ghouls come as they pleased, leaving the citizens to fend for themselves against the stray ghoul attacks.

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I'm interested in what happened to Australia.

I mean, seriously, Geckos turned into man-sized man-eating monsters that breath fire.

Cazadors, bloodbugs, the big super hunters of the wasteland.

All of these mutated from moderately small sized animals.

I mean, like, Bears, just became bigger, spikier bears.

It's like the horrible-death-fuckness of a creature is inverse to how large it's old breed was, but directly proportional to how scary it would be to find one crawling up your arm.

So imagine what Australia must be like.

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I'm interested in what happened to Australia.

I mean, seriously, Geckos turned into man-sized man-eating monsters that breath fire.

Cazadors, bloodbugs, the big super hunters of the wasteland.

All of these mutated from moderately small sized animals.

I mean, like, Bears, just became bigger, spikier bears.

It's like the horrible-death-fuckness of a creature is inverse to how large it's old breed was, but directly proportional to how scary it would be to find one crawling up your arm.

So imagine what Australia must be like.

 

The Spideroo. Jumps you while you run and injects you with venom.

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According to the intro of the first Fallout game, which lays out the political landscape in 2077, Europe somehow devulged into a bunch of "bickering nations" which were largely irrelevant to global politics. The planets oil supply ran out, so you can imagine how OPEC countries became.


I do often wonder what specifically happened to Europe, because what reason would there be to nuke it when the war was between China and the US, and many nations didn't have much of anything to do with either.


As far as Mad Max and Fallout, Wasteland was a vidya made based on Mad Max, and Fallout is a game made based on Wasteland which was supposed to use GURPS, but it fell through so they made the SPECIAL system. (Which you can play out on pen and paper, but no one does.)

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I think Europe and the OPEC nations got into a small scale nuclear war as well, if memory serves.


One thing that confuses me is that, in FO4, you find that the nuclear attack (ie. The ICBM tracks, inbound bombers, etc.) was confirmed at 9:27 AM, but the warning wasn't sent out until about 9:45 AM, shortly after some cities had already been hit. What was the point of doing that?

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I think Europe and the OPEC nations got into a small scale nuclear war as well, if memory serves.


One thing that confuses me is that, in FO4, you find that the nuclear attack (ie. The ICBM tracks, inbound bombers, etc.) was confirmed at 9:27 AM, but the warning wasn't sent out until about 9:45 AM, shortly after some cities had already been hit. What was the point of doing that?

 

It was probably because nobody believed the reports at first. It's canon that there had been so many false alarms in the years leading up to the Great War, that even people paranoid enough to reserve vault space didn't give the warning any credence, and most of them never made it to their vaults.

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Perhaps the same way New Vegas appeared after Fallout 3, we might get a Fallout: New London ?

Theen again Fallout series, as little as I played, is made to portray the bland, vain consumerism of 20th century Murica.

Really can't imagine fallout being about anything else, Maybe DLCs?

Yeah like a DLC for Fallout 4 that gets you on a ship to Europe?

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It's referenced that there were people from Europe, but that could just be lies. Also, I don't think there would be any games outside america due to the fact that the main theme of fallout is 1950s america. I think the closest to another country would be Canada, as Ronto exists (According to dialogue in The Pitt). Personally I'd love to see angry bearded lumberjacks in power armour with maple leaves on them fighting Brotherhood of Steel with autoaxes.

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According to the intro of the first Fallout game, which lays out the political landscape in 2077, Europe somehow devulged into a bunch of "bickering nations" which were largely irrelevant to global politics. The planets oil supply ran out, so you can imagine how OPEC countries became.


I do often wonder what specifically happened to Europe, because what reason would there be to nuke it when the war was between China and the US, and many nations didn't have much of anything to do with either.


As far as Mad Max and Fallout, Wasteland was a vidya made based on Mad Max, and Fallout is a game made based on Wasteland which was supposed to use GURPS, but it fell through so they made the SPECIAL system. (Which you can play out on pen and paper, but no one does.)

 

Excuse me. I have two copies of the rules for PnP fallout printed and bound thank you.

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Someone actually made a map of all canonically confirmed faction land. The most Northern place in the series in the Institute, and they're well below the Canadian border.

 

IT'S TUSCON, DAMMIT.

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Someone actually made a map of all canonically confirmed faction land. The most Northern place in the series in the Institute, and they're well below the Canadian border.

 

That map is not up to date. Fallout 4 nestles the Institute within the New England Commonwealth, as well as the east coast chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel.

 

This, and the east coast chapter is a lot larger then that now.

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USSR and US were rivals. However, Chinese and American interests colided more, so those two were in direct war for a while. From what I heard, Sweden wasn't nuked, because at the moment the nukes launched they were like, "We surrender! We surrender!" and nukes were directed somewhere else. Sadly, fallout doesn't respect borders, neither did the following nuclear winter.

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In China, I feel as though there would be a decent American presence by the time of the Great War, given that you had Marines occupying Shanghi and soldiers out in the Gobi Desert. I could very well see the American contingent in Shanghi devolving into a totalitarian settlement relying heavily on American power armor and vertibirds not unlike the Brotherhood of Steel.

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