Re: Command Whitelist ERT But Provide Non-Command Something Too

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Scheveningen wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:52 pm
Can't we just nerf ERT instead if their equipment power bloat is such a big concern and strip away their authority? I don't see the point of bloating Emergency Response factions when the more optimal (albeit highly contentious) choice is just to declaw the ERT.

Although the fact they're stronger than antagonists is mostly due in part to almost all antagonists being really weak in general.
Ert is High risk (may not come) high reward (best equipment in the game)

Legion is Low risk (youll probably almost always get one) modest reward (Theyre equipped a lil better than armory equipped sec)

This seems like a fair gamble. Minutemen or spec ops? Do you NEED erts heavy laser cannons or can you take a few boys with rifles?

Ert equipment nerf is umnecessary in this framework.
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Re: Command Whitelist ERT But Provide Non-Command Something Too

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Senpai Jackboot wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:25 pm
Scheveningen wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:52 pm
Can't we just nerf ERT instead if their equipment power bloat is such a big concern and strip away their authority? I don't see the point of bloating Emergency Response factions when the more optimal (albeit highly contentious) choice is just to declaw the ERT.

Although the fact they're stronger than antagonists is mostly due in part to almost all antagonists being really weak in general.
Ert is High risk (may not come) high reward (best equipment in the game)

Legion is Low risk (youll probably almost always get one) modest reward (Theyre equipped a lil better than armory equipped sec)

This seems like a fair gamble. Minutemen or spec ops? Do you NEED erts heavy laser cannons or can you take a few boys with rifles?

Ert equipment nerf is umnecessary in this framework.
Sure, I guess. It doesn't seem a terrible idea when put that way.

I'm immediately thinking of the French Foreign Legion anyway, so I guess that's something to psyche up over.
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Re: Command Whitelist ERT But Provide Non-Command Something Too

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yes to the whitelist, no to the Legion.For starters why is Nanotrasen using a government Asset instead of a company one and how are they asking for them? We already have two distinctions of Emergency response, ERT and Heavy Asset Protection which basically already fits the aesthetic you described, ERT are Mercs while HAPT are Special Operators, I think instead HAPT should get an actual implementation outside of admin abuse and locked behind a whitelist and ERT should be nerfed

Re: Command Whitelist ERT But Provide Non-Command Something Too

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Whitelisting ERT is ultimately a policy suggestion, however I would be glad to see more variety in emergency response options, and would be happy to work on a foreign legion provided that the overarching policy change proceeds. However since the root of this issue is policy (whitelisting ERT and then creating an unwhitelisted version) I have moved it to the appropriate sub-forum.
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Re: Command Whitelist ERT But Provide Non-Command Something Too

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JMJ_99 wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:26 am
yes to the whitelist, no to the Legion.For starters why is Nanotrasen using a government Asset instead of a company one and how are they asking for them?
Emergency transmissions?

As to why; lavor. Non-NT things coming to interact with us makes us feel like we're in a living world with things happening outside the station. plus lore to the station is something everyone wants
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Re: Command Whitelist ERT But Provide Non-Command Something Too

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I love this idea,

when private companies have problems they generally call local law enforcement; private companies still call to the US navy or Coast guard when their ships are in distress and sometimes your response will vary; even private property they still refer to the local police authority for matters on and near property.

my only thought is maybe make the ERT something other then a whitelist, ... maybe make it based on game hours on the server...like reward loyalty to the server with access to it and the legion is available to everyone; that way you're not excluding the people youd want to be playing it and preventing the ERT from being inexperienced memes.

I would be curious as to what their loadout would be and how they would operate; I think ontop of this there should be more response teams.

a CBRN task force is absolutely needed at some point; calling in the ERT who bring primarily guns to many different situations just ends poorly; a Medically focused response team for cleanup and assistance can help prolong situations.


if theres a virus outbreak and you call in a CBRN team; the people who come in should be medically oriented and focusing on containment procedures; giving orders to people to contain themselves and orient on making those really....really annoying rounds where medbay is a meme easier.
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