FreshDriedChokie

BYOND Key: FreshDriedChokie Total Ban Length: Permanent (Security Department) Banning staff member's Key: TheDocOct Reason of Ban: "Executed a restrained, HuT, loyalty-implanted antagonist as the warden after they had killed one cadet. This is not reasonable for a member of security. You interact with criminals that kill people daily, and that does not give you a sufficient reason to execute them, especially considering the extreme IC repercussions you'd be facing." Reason for Appeal: I've stepped away from Aurorastation (and SS13 in general) for few months to reassess my behavior and roleplay and its propensity to get me into trouble. I now I understand that my roleplay was unacceptable in the circumstances for which I caused trouble. While I perceived my roleplay and motivation as having been explicit in this situation and others like it, I know now that that was not the case. I'd like to apologize for any disruption of server play or narrative and pledge that, while my characters might have behaved in an occasionally irrational manner in the past, I will strive to more thoroughly adhere to the rules and the responsibilities of the department should you all accept my request.

Naw, just archive it. No sense keeping this going.

Thank you. Honestly, I can understand and accept the warning at this point, given DocOct's rationale. I apologize if I got heated, though.

Okay, this is fucking laughable. Honestly, I'm laughing right now. You know why? That was NOT me. That was Max Kolt. And you know why I know that? Because he specifically told me after the fact that he ambushed the changeling in the basketball court. I, on the other hand, was hiding the security room onboard the shuttle (responding to DocOct's messages) until the end of round: 1) Because I was busy responding to the mod and 2) because I didn't want to get jumped by the changeling. I'm honestly stupefied that you, a mod, made a mistake like that. Given I assume you have the ability to follow players. Well, whatdoyoufuckingknow. I was absolutely right. Your basis for banning me was wrong. Because if you go back and look in that game's logs, you'll see that was Max Kolt. NOT ME. Joe. Fucking. Decker. And what makes this even more baffling, I might add, is that I touched base with Max after the fact to see if he'd been reprimanded for beating the changeling to death with me in the shuttle. And guess what, he wasn't. While I, Joe Fucking Decker, was trying to explain my reasoning to the mod, he didn't receive even a PM that whole time. And it was only after he attacked him in the basketball court that he got a mod PM. Clearly, that business I said about a lack of mod communication and you blustering into the situation without knowing it or the parties involved was more true than even I realized. EDIT: But please, let us brush past my point that mods without knowledge of the incidents they're intervening into will automatically assume that someone with warnings is at fault. EDIT2: And if you need further proof, I was detective. I did not have privilege on my ID to open the shuttle security room. And once Max had left, I was effectively locked in there.

I mean, I can understand the floodgate thought line. EDIT: Although, I still say that there's equal danger in a mod who is not familiar with my character, has not played the round I played, has not been following my character through the circumstances which brought them to a particular situation, to be able to just decide my decisions were "unreasonable" and reprimand me. I was quick to admit to the mod that I understood where he was coming from. But honestly these situations do not arrive often enough or have sufficient justification enough for this to be the new law of the land. I stated that in this particular situation, given the state of the station and the absence of all other security personnel, it seemed reasonable in my character's mind. And yes, Nurse did tell me I was getting a ban before it happened. However, my conversation with the trial mod DocOct had no precursor to the warning. I was in the process of answering his questions and explaining myself and I received a warning. Again, I'd have just let it be had it ended at the warning. An unfortunate circumstance that let to maybe pushing the line a bit. But the ban (for what some of you have assumed was "arguing with the mod", which I did not do, and which Nurse did not state as the reason for my ban) was absolutely unwarranted. And I fear there's a more dangerous slippery slope in the inconsistency in mod communication and the inevitable loop of bans a player with warnings is doomed to if just the mere fact that you've had discrepancies in the past is reason enough for ban. I already served my time for those warnings. And the entire basis for this ban seems to be a warning which I was given no chance to appeal before both were already in place and on my record.

Well it didn't matter to my character's motivations after fighting off bears for half the round. Not to mention the psych (who I can only assume was an antagonist) who tried to kill me midround. Nurse didn't state that was the reason for the ban. And I was given no pretense for the warning before it happened. We were talking, I was explaining myself (which unfortunately carried on past the end of round). In fact, it was only until my last message before ban that the trial mod directed me to the forums. And my response that I would be pursuing this further on the forums was met with the ban. It clearly seemed to me that Nurse knew nothing of the situation, looked at my past warnings, and assumed I was due for some kind of ban.

BYOND Key: FreshDriedChokie Staff BYOND Key: TheDocOct, NurseKitty Game ID: bQD-aTYD(?) Reason for complaint: I'd like my last warning, and subsequent tempban as a result thereof, to be dropped. Evidence/logs/etc: (The moderator didn't find this sufficient and our conversation continued:) Additional remarks: Witness parties: Max Kolt, Haley Mcfall End of round on the emergency shuttle. I was detective, and had been almost murdered by a crew member (who was not detained) and the rogue AI on station. The witness parties and I had been helping one another to escape the station. We were in the security room aboard the shuttle when a gentleman (Reiner Trovato ) approaches the door and: [1] Max Kolt and the doctor proceeded out of the security room and I followed. I attempted to address Scorpius but he moved to evade. I hit him to stop him and he persisted. After that, both the doctor and Kolt joined in and began hitting him. And we killed him. My reasoning was that, given the tenuous circumstances of our escape (and the complete decimation of security personnel by the AI; as Kolt and I were the only survivors), that Decker was not willing to take a chance and trusted the doctor's judgment that he was a threat. When civilians moved to stop us, I struck them with a warning blow before retreating to the safety of the security room, not sure if they were hostile as well. I then received the following from the trial moderator: [2] To which I replied: [3] I then received a warning from said administrator on this subject. I believe the warning was completely unjustified. I understand the sentiment, but how exactly can you police the "reasonability" of player characters' actions in increasingly stressful situations? I could understand his warning had this event occurred without context, earlier in the round when a present threat was not a concern to me or the lives of the crew. But this was after a rogue AI was running rampant, after a psychiatrist attempted to murder me, and after we had to call in an evac shuttle. And furthermore, how can you decide for player the mental state of their own character? If my character does not act outside of the scope of their predefined characterstics (as I'd already demonstrated my unreasonability in attacking the man who tried to kill me), and doesn't break the rules (as I did not attempt to metagame by assuming fault until it was clear to me that he was a threat), than how can the admin decide what is "reasonable" for my character? Honestly, I would have written it off and not given a shit if it had ended at this. But an attempt to reply further to the admin and contest the warning was met by another mod who informed me of my temp ban. No rules were cited that I had broken. And my "past events" were already punished with a previous temp ban. Which I had taken seriously and resolved to change my behavior. This warning I'm contesting is the only warning I've received since that previous ban. So I know this is a wall of text and probably gonna get swept under the rug, but I don't feel my behavior justified a warning, much less a ban. And I do not believe the behavior of my companions was met with the same degree of skepticism and reprimand. I'd like this reviewed and, if you all deem it possible, the warning and the tempban removed. Not counting on it, though, honestly.