Nightmare

That is ridiculous. If I did this with Constantine, you'd adminhelp me about ignoring pain and doing poor RP. That is a 100% lie, because I've seen you ignore pain RP /plenty/ and have never ahelped you. Nasir pain RP's fine when I do it. Im not going to spend 30 minutes of /me over a stubbed toe. I pain RP when I pain RP. But I never flat out ignore it. And yelling curses while in pain is a logical response. However, that being said I'm not going to get into a back and forth about 'My RP is better than yours'. If you feel my RP is lacking, well I'm sorry for you, other people disagree with you I'm sure. And He threatened you after he got back to his feet and they started walking away, so yea. Nasir gives out a lot of threats. That's how it is.

Nasir's pain was taken into account plenty. That is what the time spent on the ground, or blacked out is represented by, rubber bullets fired out a pistol won't break bones, im afraid, bruises maybe, but you wouldn't be stopped by bruises while you are full of adrenaline, yes you would be knocked down, but again that is already taken into account for. So, no I'm not going to have him remain on the ground for half an hour doing /me's while him and his friends are being attacked by security because they feel they can. Mind you, in this case Nasir never scratched anyone. Only pushed them, I'd like you to keep that in mind.

Right, you seem to be failing to understand what I'm saying. Perhaps I should be a bit more clear. In this case, Yes, Nasir was the first person to make physical contact. The botanist, however, started the problem by tripping him in the hallway. After Nasir shoved the botanist, he got up and instantly started swinging, so Nasir backpedalled which swinging back. When you took out your flash, Nasir ran away but slipped on a peel and started getting punched. He got up and took two steps back, and swung again, and that's where you flashed him. The only time Nasir 'chased' the botanist is when he was brought into the hallway near the end of the fight. In the holodeck thing Nasir was /not/ 100% the insigsator, the fact that security followed them from the hallway, and kept harassing Nasir, Shayla, and Krisha, while trying to find any excuse to bully them and arrest them makes you the instigator. And Nasir was related in this event because he was involved with it the entire time. He only got physical, after security did and then the brawl happened. And your Chief engineer was being a pain in the ass to Nasir, so yes he was being slient. Yes, Nasir was uncaring about your threats to fire him because he's completely aware as to who the captain was that round and knew that they would see how full of shit your CE was. So he was unafraid. And no, I have no need to metagrudge against you. Nasir doesn't like your CE, how he does things, or how he talks. Its as simple as that.

The only time that Nasir has been in a fight, against security like that is in the holodeck, where Security kept harassing Nasir, and two or three of his friends and it turned into a brawl. People were shot, people were arrested. That's the only time he's gotten into a fight with more than one person and didn't try to run that I can recall. And no, that isn't "outrageous behavior", point is Nasir only explodes as a purely reaction state, I make that that he never starts the problems, that is his characterstic type. And he never keeps the problem going, anytime he's gotten into a fight, any time they fall He backs up. Its on them when they get up and keep swinging at him. So no, I disagree on all accounts of Nasir being in the wrong of any outrageous behavior. And Nasir's upgrade to harm intent, even in this case was /after/ the botanist started punching him first. So yes, that was a justifiable response.

Yes, you said yourself that an 'IRL response' would be to shove him and storm off. That's exactly what Nasir did. You and the botanist chased him, where the botanist kept striking him and you flashed him. Again, there was no discipline, there was no ahelp toward you, and there was no warning of any kind issued. So please, tell me where was the discipline? I never said the botanist wasn't justified in hitting back, I'd expect him to. You say you'd rather have had it on disarm intent, but I disagree. So there is no end to that arugement there, he struck Nasir, so Nasir struck him back. And you 'personally' intervened right as the fight started, where you and the botanist chased Nasir, after he was trying to run away, but again you see it how you will. I'm still lost as to where I'm using my staff position to justify my actions, I'd like you to explain that. I'd also like you to explain clearly what your complaint is, because saying 'The only complaint I'd have, is that I'd rather it have been on disarm intent' you clearly have more complaints than that.

I've seen Nasir instigate conflict several times, if only verbally and not physically. Previously - awhile back ago - I also saw him randomly walk into a situation and make it explode with no reason or justification, attacking the entire security staff and continuing to attack them even after he was shot multiple times You say hat but that isn't an exact example, unless you can actually say what happened I don't actually think that's true. Nasir does have anger issues, but he doesn't start problems, he just handles them very poorly. And if you wish to talk about IRL, if someone made me slip on a peel, I think fighting is a perfectly reasonable response. But lets say if what you are saying is true, Nasir shoved the botanist into the glass, which broke. The botanist then hit Nasir three times, before he struck back. He's not just going to sit there and be assaulted. My response was 100% justified. And note, there was no displining that happened. You weren't warned, you weren't ahelped. In which way did I use my staff position to justify my actions?

I think Trelin was meowy's only joke character. I don't think that we'll be seeing much joking for this whitelist. I'm ok with a +1

A few things I'd like to say. One, if your boss tells you to give up the syringe gun, then give up the syringe gun. All of that could've been avoided by listening to your boss. And taking the syringe gun without reason, is like the warden going into the armory and taking a rifle without reason. So yea, you were right to be charged on that. Not sure about the assault on a head, but I'm almost positive more happened than that, moving on. Getting arrested for a crime that you did, is an IC issue. You can't expect to be sprung from jail because the guards are ignoring your cries of innocence. If you believe you are, there are ways to ic'ly to get help. Captain, IAA, ect. Running around the station naked? Come on, man I don't think I even really have to explain why that is wrong. Also, I'd like to note that your ahelps were really unacceptable. You expect to get help, when you're using cap locks, and swearing. You were given plenty of warnings, and it wasn't as simple as you complying with sec and them just being bad at the game. You were aggressive, rude, and all of that in the span of one day.

BYOND Key: Nightmare 00 Player Byond Key: Silver116 Reason for complaint: So here's my problem with Silver's Captain. Near the start of the round, his captain was throwing racial slurs at Nasir, who's my Tajaran. After the second calling him 'cat' Nasir responded by calling him a monkey. After this, the captain had Nasir arrested on insulting an officer (Which honestly is a shit law) and after some back and forth had Nasir placed in a holding cell for about an hour. After internal affairs contacted Central and we got a central rep on station, Silver was then brought into a meeting to where he was explained why he isn't allowed to use space law to insult crew members and then have them briged away when they speak back. After a bit of back and forth in looc, Silver replied with 'Whatever, im leaving anyway' and logged out. Now, if you're going to have someone brigged for an hour on some B.S. charges, you shouldn't leave when you're punished for it just because you're wrong. Being whitelisted isn't so you can get a powertrip off.