NotASpider

Keep surgeon. Here's the biggest problem medbay currently faces in terms of RP: nobody cares if you powergame medical because they get to live and keep playing. The only thing keeping this (somewhat) in check is the very mechanically distinct roles. There's already a huge problem of overlap in medbay. Why have an FR when a physician can run around? Why have a surgeon when a pharmacist can do everything a surgeon can? Why play a pharmacist when the CMO just makes all the medicine anyway? The answer is more separation of the medbay roles, NOT consolidation. I say I'm pretty good at staying in my lane. My surgeon is hardcore nerfed in RP but is a surgery powerhouse. My pharmacist will never canonically learn how to use a hypospray or start an IV, and only stabs people with syringes because she's not a doctor. My physician is a GP and doesn't do surgery, also wears high heels to prevent running and being too effective an FR. My FR literally dumps people in med and then dips. The only reason I do that is because I know how much it sucks to have your toes stepped on. I've had it happen where I play FR and some bored physician decides to run off to calls too, and it is ridiculously triggering when my entire niche is stolen from me. I can pretty much guarantee that removing surgeon will cause that to happen more often. I mean, sure, you could theoretically try to enforce rp limits, but we all know how that'll go. The only way I could possibly see this working is by making the skills system actually affect gameplay, but that's basically just passing the buck of mechanics from roles to skills.

Med main here, I only enjoyed the last round in the arc. It seems like med always gets shafted in events because everyone's scared to be robust now that death has consequences. Having two rival teams of what were basically NPCs fixed that right up, plus the mutiny was enjoyable. 100% agree with others though, that there were no consequences of this arc happening other than the few character deaths. The only time I ever hear this being mentioned ICly is specifically in reference to the mutiny. Storywriting 101 is to know where you want to end up before you start, and most of this event felt way more akin to an on-the-fly gimmick thought up during a heist or merc round.

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BYOND Key: Cooleosis Total Ban Length: Unspecified Banning staff member's Key: Mel Reason of Ban: https://i.imgur.com/z4JeT0P.jpeg Reason for Appeal: Told to reapply in a month, here I am. From before: I've been fucking up, thinking that nothing matters, even the rules, if it's for the sake of good rp. It took getting banned to learn my lesson. Pratepresidenten also specifically instructed me to put this into the appeal https://i.imgur.com/d6MM6wX.jpeg

Alright. If you can guarantee me that the stuff I said in DMs will get me unbanned on the 2nd despite not getting me unbanned in this case, then I guess I'll take it and you can close this out.

Elaborate how? Was my reasoning in DMs with Mel not elaborative enough? Help me remove some uncertainty from this appeal process, because the punishment for getting it wrong will be another month's wait.

Considering everything mentioned here and in DMs with Mel, what would I need to say differently or need to add on my appeal on the 2nd to have it go through?

So the rules in the rules section are "rules" when concerning player behaviour, but "guidelines" when concerning mod behaviour? I see.

Which I provided once I realized what was at stake. Speaking of, why did you perma me, anyway? The next step outlined in the rules is an increasing temp ban, so I did genuinely think that this was just a temp ban with extra steps. Jumping from warning to perma makes it seem like this is personal.

Was the later appealing in DMs not enough? Like I said I was really uncomfortable talking about it in a forum post because yeah, it absolutely did feel like "grovel on the forums for your future in the server, peasant." Adding to that feeling too was that I wasn't even aware it was a perma ban, I thought it was a temp ban (on account of the very clear punishment rules) with an extra stipulation that I admit I fucked up. Which I did. I also invited Mel to talk about it privately before the request was even closed, not sure if that's clear in the screencaps, where I would have happily said everything that I said after the request was closed. If the problem is that it was 'off the record', well, it's definitely on the record now in the OP. Literally all you did was ask a yes/no question that I answered accordingly. "Do you understand?" Adding 'I'll deny this if you don't elaborate further' would have saved everyone from all this.

BYOND key: Cooleosis Staff key: Mel Game ID: unknown/various Complaint: The story here can be gleaned from the following screencaps. I'm learning how important it is to document everything. https://imgur.com/a/Vp6nvLh TL;DR I've been fucking up, thinking that nothing matters, even the rules, if it's for the sake of good rp. It took getting banned to learn my lesson. My goal here is to get a timer put on this ban. The whole point of temp bans is to impart a harsher punishment than a warning so that (hopefully) people learn better, not punishment for punishment's sake. I learned my lesson, and I would have learned it on a temp ban, too. To go straight from warning to permaban with "Maybe I'll let you back in a month" seems… vindictive? Unnecessary? I feel like I'm backed up by the rules on this, which state "Temporary bans are handed out for situations where a single warning may not suffice". That was the case here. The rules also say permabans are issued "to force communication with staff regarding an issue which was left unresolved" and "as a final attempt to curb a player's behaviour, following warnings and temporary bans." If Mel wanted more or different communication then I'm all for it, let's talk. As is, I don't really know what will change in the requested month before I reappeal? Like I said, I learned my lesson. If there's something else you want me to take away from this experience then I'd kindly ask you to let me know what, instead of leaving me to figure it out. Other than that, the only thing that will change in a month is time, which you may as well just use a temp ban for anyway.

It's because I'm extremely, painfully aware that I'm walking on eggshells whenever I talk to a mod. What do you want me to say other than 'I understand, I'll try my best to avoid this in the future'?

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BYOND Key: Cooleosis Total Ban Length: Unspecified Banning staff member's Key: Mel Reason of Ban: https://imgur.com/2KJmDy2 Reason for Appeal: I'll uncanonize it.

I really thought that in the round you were doing the customer service thing of going 'I'll get right on that' and never doing anything, so I wanted to make sure the wiki would be changed. I also assumed that you'd try to get me in deeper shit if I posted the whole thing, and you made it pretty clear that eavesdropping is blanketly against the rules with only very explicit exceptions, so for those two reasons I only sent exactly what was relevant.