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It seems, majority of people (including me) dislikes/hates IPC's/shells that look, talk and act like their organic counterparts (backstory or secret interactions between friends do not matter). Like, when JackFractal was implementing shells, he probably didn't meant to allow people to play literally just reskinned humans/cats. I liked it better, when we only had TV heads. edit: Because, it really seems like you're playing a IPC, just to be a normal human, but with robot advantages (no tasing) and to easily have a CMO and security character (IPC skill sets, and stuff). If that's the way you see it, sure. I don't have anything to say about it.

Other players also agree that I'm not the roleplay anti-christ you propose me to be. And who's to say you're not twisting things in your own defense?

Nope. EORG. You should know better. Nope. No order was given. You neglected to give us riot armor and shields. You threatened me because of that. Don't see how armor and a shield is lethal weaponry. Don't see how issuing a detective two tasers is not escalating the situation, but issuing officers gear to not die from a Ripley's drill or spear is, as you put it.. When a suspect is verbally resistant to an officer, the officer is to issue calm yet firm orders, according to the National Institute of Justice. I have more than a reason to assume the use of force continuum is the same as of nowadays, else, we'd be opening fire on everyone who says "But." You outright drew your energy pistol and opened fire. Opened fire at a fellow coworker, who held two tasers in hand, and held a hatred for Keelin. Not the best move you can take. The Faers situation, Mutiny round. After I armed myself with riot gear, shield, and laser rifle, I went on for a mutineer manhunt for threatening the safety of all crew. The first mutineer I encountered, Faers. I took aim at her and told her to halt. She instantly ran off, causing the character to instantly fire the gun. I tried to take her hostage again, she ran off again. When I demanded for her in LOOC to tell me why she ran off in the most powergamey way possible when aimed at with lethals, she said 'I have my reasons to.' I called for an admin in adminhelp, and the RP was halted until the admin sorted out everything. You came, the two that were on my side came, and some of your own. I repeated in LOOC to pause the RP while I sorted it out with the admin and Faers, given that she shouldn't have ran off. After a little moment of silence, you rushed at me with a flash while I was speaking with the admin, took me down, and the gunfight between the two sides ensued. I managed to escape, fortunately. Tell me how is that not taking advantage.

Guilting behaviour has been seen before from others who were put in this position. You did wrong, you're now making yourself out to seem the victim and then blaming others. Linking this back to original post, attitude towards other players. Did you not do wrong when you opened lethal fire on me in the shuttle? Or when you called me faulty and threatened to have scrapped (death-threatenning your own officer)? Or when you opened fire on me for failing to fulfill an order? Or when you cannonized a mutiny round to further your meta in another mutiny round? Or when you took advantage of an ooc talk with an admin to win against me? Livingstone, Vur, Stamos, Parison, and even Brooks are examples of good HoS. You are not. Your Head behaviour makes me gag. God knows how you got it in the first place. You are no victim here, sweetpea.

I don't talk about you behind your back; Nor do I think you're a "shit roleplayer" or "mini-satan", I just think you need to change your mentality with Hypatia. I fully accept anyone, no matter who they are, so long as they're willing not to be a pain for everyone, they're fair, and they have some sort of moral ethics. (Ex. not calling someone an autistic shithead like I was called just this previous round at the time of posting this, by a CMO) I understand you want a sense of community as well, and you thought that this one was pretty sweet at the start. I did too. This might just be my "Night is ruined." emotions talking, but I feel the same way about this "community" as you do. Most people are needlessly toxic, and attempt to get rises out of people just for their reactions, commonly referred to as trolling. I absolutely hate it, I don't see the need to play this game if it just attracts the worst kind of assholes there are on the internet. But hey, that's life. I don't want you to be banned from the server, I don't want anything of the sort. You're a good roleplayer. You just need to tweak Hypatia, or in my opinion, if that isn't possible, stop playing her altogether. That might seem like a pretty unreasonable request coming from me, but I feel like you could do some good playing a different character for a while. Maybe you could come back to her. I'm speechless, at this point. I've emptied my brain enough into the matter to the point of getting rather emotional about it. But my point still stands. I don't care about being banned anymore. 2k words I helplessly wrote trying to justify myself against another salty kid just seem meaningless. I don't want to justify any action of mine, any character choice, development, statement or anything of the sort anymore. I'm tired of getting spoken about to my back, and trust me that I know who these people are, and have none confront me about it or try to reason with me - but instead just run off to the moderators to tell me I'm a shitty roleplayer. I don't understand what the mindset of the SS13 community, otherwise, the Aurora's is. I don't understand why "IC unfairness" is so frowned upon. My character gets pushed around, called a bag of bolts, called faulty, death-threatenned, fired for being IPC, opened fire upon, EMP'd, force-implanted, ion'd, lasered, revolvered-to-the-head, blown up, beaten down, beheaded, detained. And do you see me hardcore LOOC'ing and adminhelping to whoever is doing such? I rarely do (90% of those cases being when people just walk past my decapitated head and not pick it up). I'm comfortable with it, personally, because if people have an IC hatred for IPCs, sure, that's your character pal. But when my character reacts to it and bashes your skull in for abusing her? I don't have much else to say, much else to justify. Still answering, regardless.

Is this on the Aurora wiki? You should not be punching people as an officer. EDIT: I checked our wiki. This information is not present anywhere. You are using Baystations' wiki, of which we don't use because this is not baystation. I consulted with a lore developer whether to write a book using this as a guide http://www.nij.gov/topics/law-enforcement/officer-safety/use-of-force/pages/continuum.aspx would be appropiate, and thus, was told it would be alright.

Err? Blatantly refusing a loyalty implant when everyone in Security was forced to get one, due to almost everyone in Security revolting against the HoS? Threatening to kill anyone that came near her? Resorting to lethal means to incapacitate people even though they had a full Sec belt? Blatantly refusing two Heads of Staff's orders? Take your pick, there's no "Oh it was just a Rev round" argument, this was after all the violence and carnage was over; But there were still Revs running around, converting people. Hypatia chose to waste our time and threaten us with death just because she wanted to pull that shit, and it ultimately came right back in her face and got her killed, along with about six people exposed to several EMP grenades. Literally everyone in Security was loyalty implanted. Hypatia wanted to be special and stay free just because, and threatened to kill anyone who wanted to change that. I wouldn't blame Hypatia resisting considering that she helped protect the HoS, and squash the mutiny at the time. And again, rev rounds. Hypatia was issued lethal weaponry by the HoS herself in the way of bringing a lethal closet to her, opening it and saying "Hypatia, grab a rifle." Prior to that, a crew mass moved in to the Brig in trespass in order to take down Security. Tasers fired, people downed. One was carrying a spear, which Hypatia snatched away, and carried around for the remainder of her lifetime. It was then, nearly seven minutes after, that she was issued a rifle. She cooperated with the HoS during the entire round without an implant, and never used her spear or rifle to harm anybody. It was when the HoS started to break people's legs and forcing implants on them that Hypatia got a little edgy on the topic, and when the implanted Security was ready to go off in a manhunt, the Warden mentioned that Hypatia was not implanted. When the HoS told Hypatia that she should be implanted "just in case." Hypatia refused. The Security crowd insisted, and Livingstone (Ove), the RD that was implanting people, intended to implant her. She kept on refusing the implant, and waved her spear around to ward them off, insisting that she had helped Security all this time without an implant and on her sole will and interests, regardless, Security insisted. Hypatia dropped her spear and snatched her rifle, cornering herself, ready to fire at Livingstone if she tried to force the implant on her. More insisting happened, until one of the revs rushed past the lobby, and tossed an EMP in. This resulted in, of course, Hypatia's death. The "black guy working in a crop field," was said by Hypatia, yes, when they tried to force her into the implant. She said, "THEY'RE TREATING ME LIKE A BLACK GUY IN AN EIGHTEEN OH-OH (1800's) CROP FIELD!" At this point, all I'm seeing is people unwilling to accept me into the community. At this point, I really don't mind if I'm banned at all. Many of the people that have stated against me in this thread are many of those I thought as friends in the community and people I got along with. But, then again, it's in the administration's hands to ban me or not. At this point, I'm begging to be banned. I thought this was a multiplayer game. A multiplayer game has a community. The community is one and one only. What's the point of playing in the Aurora if all I get are people talking to my back? People simply telling me I'm a shit player and a shit roleplayer? That I'm some sort of lesser satan simply seeking to grief and gank everybody on sight? What would be the point in staying? I played this server because I thought the community was awesome and welcoming, but at this point, I really regret taking that decision. Once more, I don't mind if I'm banned at this point. Staying would only mean getting more and more salt from the people I enjoyed playing with. At this point, all I'm doing try to gather all I can from my poor memory to justify myself for wanting to play in the Aurora. At this point, all I log in to is "you shouldn't be an ipc," "there's a new ipc restriction" and messages from Garn telling me that people don't like my character and myself.

To leave a note; my mindset during that nuke round was simply the following. The Icarus announced that a ship bypassed them and was headed right for the NSS Aurora. A ship that was not scheduled for a visit anytime. Unknown visitors. The Icarus stated that the ship wasn't armed, meaning, the ship didn't have nuke-cannons on each side. You expect Security to not give a single damn about an unscheduled ship that managed to bypass Icarus, and to welcome them with open arms. Hypatia requested riot armor and shield to have at hand when welcoming the visitors, and not to mention, the two other officers in Security at that time did not care about the visitors and were busy ordering pizza, or something along those lines. Thus, Hypatia had to welcome the visitors on her own. And nevertheless, she went only with her taser. All the nuclear operatives did was dress ridiculously, get force gloves, and start a half-the-station disarm brawl with force gloves. Hypatia tried to stop it. All she got? Disarming, flying over due to the gloves, and her equipment was even snatched. This went on for minutes, on and on. Hypatia tried to push down the operatives and cuff them. But what happened? Another came, force gloved, and ran off. Over and over. Nearly fifteen minutes into the brawl, one of your operatives came with a stun rod, and outright murdered Jun Ivanova, in front of Hypatia, and ran off. That's when Hypatia switched to empty-hand control techniques. She originally intended to first use soft technique, meaning, scriptly grab an operative by the neck to restrain them. But the pushing continued. And when Hypatia switched to hard technique and downed the operative with punches, another came, and gunned her down.

I don't know where you people are getting the idea that Hypatia automatically questions any order she is given to by any sort of Head. She is ordered to attend to a crime scene? She attends. She is ordered to detain someone? She detains. She is ordered to update records? She updates. Hypatia's confrontational attitude kicks in when whoever her boss is gives an incorrect order, gets unjustifiedly aggressive towards her, or discriminates her because she's an IPC. Even when I say confrontational myself, I don't mean Hypatia going like, "LOL U A SHITTY BOSS GET FIRED XDDD," but rather, Hypatia questions her boss, and if her boss escalates into an aggressive tone, she grows more firm and dogmatic on her perspective. I really don't know where you all are getting the idea that Hypatia goes like; "Officer Hypatia, please detain the Quartermaster." "LOL U SUCK HOS IM NOT GOING" And as a footnote, to make it clear once more, Hypatia is only confrontational when her boss is being just a no-no. Vur K'risilav (can't spell that), Michelle Parison and Jason Stamos are Commanders Hypatia follows all order given to, and holds a great deal of respect to. Why? Because they know their job, their authority, and their crew.

You are not to put your judgement of other players on others simply because they were causing trouble. If you call whacking Jun to stop trying to run her over being a vigilante, then, whatever floats your boat. However, this does not justify that you escalated force needlessly, specifically, when Hypatia was not repeatedly trying to crack open Jun's skull, was not trying to run away (stood still, even) or fend you off in any way. The initial stun is justifiable. People were being dumb, situation had to be controlled, however, even after the shuttle docked and all conflict had ceased, you kept on flashing and flashing, tabling and tabling, while Hypatia begged to be able to cooperate. This chance was not given to her. The suspect was compliant, and defensive tactics were employed to her regardless. It still falls under Excessive Use of Force in Detainment, and saying that people were fucking around is no valid excuse. I do not ask that you should hug Hypatia, give her a cookie and tell her to come along, but rather, simply not use the most violent way to detain her. You've heard of people complaining about me. You've seen me win fights, lose fights, be detained, detain people. Are you letting your argument be biased by hearsay, and let your argument be openly biased by it? Do you think I should be banned from this server? What makes you think so? What about my fun? Can I not enjoy fun? Am I to solely let people enjoy abusing of my character and not stand up for it? Is that what fun means on the Aurora?

This is a very unsatisfactory answer, and it's exactly the reason I do not think you should be holding your IPC whitelist at this point. You are still required in your role to follow orders from that seemingly incompetent head of staff until those orders clearly violate corporate procedure. You do not willingly disrupt the chain of command in an attempt to get back at a particular person you do not like. Confrontational characters, as a rule, are typically dealt with in equally curt and blunt fashions. You're supposed to go straight to your bosses' boss if you hate your idiot boss is doing everything wrong. Do not take matters into your own hands and be a disruptive force, it makes you look worse than they are. Am I to follow my boss when these have been broken? Hypatia has never taken action against any of her Commanders when no regulation has been broken.

Given that I scarcely play with Russian, or Katya, anymore (we barely know each other IC), I'll give my side of the story; meaning, the Jun issue The situation at hand is that of Jun constantly driving the cargo tug around. Hypatia was standing idly, with her locker full of food open, for everyone to grab something to eat before the shuttle arrived. Katya continously kept stuffing herself in and all, yes. After she was detained, Hypatia stood beside her locker. Jun came with her tug, and pushed Hypatia in. Hypatia removed herself, standed idly, only for Jun to come and push her in again. This happened many, many, many, /many/ times more. Hypatia grew tired of Jun, and threatened that she would whack her head if she kept on doing it. And thus, she kept on doing it. Hypatia's patience was tried, and she whacked Jun off as she got close. One hit to the head, nothing more, nothing less. 1138's character immediately rushed for Hypatia as soon as she spoke, "Maybe that was a bit too strong." She flashed her down with no hesitation. The only thing Hypatia did was whack Jun once to make her stop pushing her around, which, really doesn't warrant a ban. Though, that is simply myo pinion. No warnings or anything of the sort were issued to me for this, by any admin, moderator, or anything of the sort. I want to point out 1138's character behaviour, however. I'd like to highlight how he constantly flashed Hypatia, over and over, due to the lack of cuffs. Hypatia screamed that she wanted to comply, but nevertheless, she was not allowed to. All she recieved was flashing, until 1138's flash broke. After this, he simply tabled Hypatia over and over, until someone paid attention to him and handed him over some cuffs. Hypatia screamed a mixture of wanting to comply, and that 1138's actions were an excessive use of force. Regardless, nobody paid attention. It was only when the shuttle arrived to Odin and 1138 dashed out of the shuttle without Hypatia that his securiskrell brother had a very brief conversation with Hypatia and allowed her to comply, thus, walk beside him as they made their way to the holding cells. I would also like to add something from a more lore-wise perspective. I've consulted with a Skrell player regarding the very use of force by 1138's character. I was told that Skrell officers are prone to using the least amount of force and the most reasonable amount of force required to detain a suspect. This conflicts with 1138's character behaviour. Hypatia was almost instantly stunned as soon as she whacked Jun off the tug, and after that, she was repeatedly and repeatedly flashed, as she screamed and shouted to allow her to comply. Yet 1138's character ignored this. Even when Hypatia did not pose a general threat, even when she was standing still and admitting her mistake with the "Maybe that was a bit too strong," escalation of force was applied. For the time being, I have nothing else to say. I'll be glad to respond to any further argument.

Let me see. I'll try to answer posts at once, to the best of my ability, and take my time to do so to not forget to try and give my side on anything. Lets start off with Chaznoodles' original argument. The first situation at hand, the Nuclear hostage situation. As much as I am able to recall, I remember the point in which HoS Keelin simply tried to rally Security into Science with mere tazers. No bullet-proof vests, no nothing. The entire Security team refused to march into Science with Keelin armed with simple tasers while the operatives were brandishing lethals. This resulted, of course, in Keelin rushing on his own. Thus, Keelin was captured by the nuclear operatives, had his headset taken and was restraint. Security were left to fend on their own, with no Commander to coordinate them. The Warden, after losing communication with Keelin, called out the entirety of Security to the Armoury, to gear up for the operatives. He distributed the weaponry and gear he deemed necessary for the assault to take place, and led Security into Research to conduct the assault. If the bold and italics did not highlight it enough; Hypatia did not lead the assault team. The reason for Chaznoodles to place the blame of the two civillian deaths and the assault team itself onto Hypatia, is the fact that Hypatia was the only assault team member that stepped up to Keelin's attitude over comms. After the situation had culminated, meaning, after the operatives were taken down, people were hurried to Medbay and so on. As Hypatia walked by the Medbay and saw the injured Commander standing idly in the lobby, she spoke "You're a retard," and continued walking. Thereafter, the discussion sparked up over comms over the entire situation. Nobody in the assault team, but Hypatia, dared to reply to Keelin in comms. Hypatia is naturally confrontational against authority, specifically, when she finds said authority to be abusive, discriminative, threatening, among others. Keelin constantly threatened Hypatia to have her fired and punishments of the sorts, with Hypatia insisting frequently that the assault team's actions were to be his responsibility, since his failure led to such thing to happen. The discussion ended in Keelin silencing Hypatia by saying something along the lines of, "If you don't stop talking now, I'll have you fired." The Mutiny round. I would like to remark an issue in this round beforehand; the fact that Chaznoodles called for a gathering as soon as he got the mutineer message to not carry out the directive, and thus, rally an entire army of armed Security members (even provided tasers and general Officer gear to cadets) in order to forcefully stop the Captain as soon as the round starts. It's the second time he did it, the first one being another mutiny round that happened not so many rounds prior. Not to mention, he did cannonize the mutiny round he had been mutineer, despite canon-antag relation rule (along with an LOOC along the lines of "I can cannonize whatever I want. :^)"). I can assure Hypatia did not take a side, once rallied to the Bridge. As per her experience in Medical, and as per the fact that the Directive was the Bluespace Virus one, with her Medical knowledge kicking in, Hypatia walked in to Vitellia's office and discussed the directive with him. They concluded that they would carry it out, to a certain point. Hypatia herself made it clear to Vitellia that she would only help to contain this said virus, but she would heartly refuse to execute and burn the infected, and would do all she could to prevent this from happening at all. The two made a deal, that Hypatia would have an HoS-esque access due to Keelin's attitude, in exchange that she would convince Keelin to help carry out the directive. Keelin, as per usual, denied and denied to be sent to quarantine or to carry out at least one step from the directive. This went on until it reached either the 45 minute mark or the 1 hour mark - which I cannot really recall with accuracy - until Hypatia said this would not go anywhere if nobody took action, and thus, Hypatia drew her taser and pointed it at Keelin. A fellow officer aided her with this, but the remainder of the Security army instantly drew batons and detained Hypatia and the officer. Keelin and his rallied army broke into the Captain's office, and detained the Captain. They sent Hypatia to Communal for nearly twenty minutes, while they spoke with the cuffed Captain in processing. After this time was over, Hypatia intended to stop Keelin's recklessness, with her planned Armoury access beforehand. She rushed into the Armoury, to which the Warden and Detective followed. The three geared up, willing to stop Keelin, and thus departed to stop the mutineers. The first mutineer Hypatia encountered was Faers, the security-officer-geared cadet. At that time, Hypatia was geared with a rifle, a riot shield, and riot gear. She aimed at Faers, limb set to head, in order to take her hostage/detain her. Faers, after a moment of silence, simply ran off, triggering the reflex shooting which burnt her face. She kept on running, and Hypatia once more tried to halt her, and aimed at her once more. Yet again, she ran off, and thus got another reflex-shot to the face. I LOOC'd for Faers to halt, and /demanded/ that she explained why she was unwilling to RP the aiming. She replied with "I have a reason for Faers to run." Thus, I adminhelped for someone to speak this through with Faers, that you really shouldn't run when you're being aimed at. While the LOOC went on, Keelin, some loyalists, and the two that had joined me came along. I politely asked that all RP was halted until the issue was solved. Yet, during the LOOC discussion, Chaznoodles decided to take advantage and began opening fire on Hypatia to detain her and take her gear. A firefight ensued, and Hypatia escaped, with 80% of her gear. The firefight culminated, and Hypatia carried on with her quest. She encountered Faers once more at the Medbay lobby, and demanded her that she (really) stopped this time. A loyalist armed with a carbine saw this happen, switched to lethals, and began opening fire at Hypatia. Hypatia returned the fire, resulting in the loyalist dying. The shuttle arrived by then. The survivors of the mutiny left for Odin, with Keelin and Vitellia not being present in the shuttle, and things seemed to halt there; resulting in a tie. Lastly comes the revolution round. It started off naturally, with no conflicts. Everyone did their jobs, despite the paycut. It was later in the round that the gatherings started to happen. People started to come more and more, demanding that their pays were restored. To the point that a Ripley was brought in by the crew, in order to destroy the Brig, along with some bombs. Security demanded that everyone left several times, before engaging in non-lethal fire against the revolutionaries. The Ripley's pilot proceeded to try and break into the Brig by shattering the reception's window, but was successfully intercepted by Security. The revolutionaries ran off back into hiding. Few officers that warded off the revolutionaries in the lobby requested to Keelin that they were granted riot gear after having been in such situation. Keelin refused this. The officers insisted, over and over, trying to put together a valid argument as to why recieve riot gear, yet, Keelin kept on refusing and refusing. Hypatia was of course one of the requesting officers. After a long while of this, everyone departed. Security was gathered in the Security Office by Calhoun regarding the matter, to speak to Keelin. This culminated in Keelin calling Hypatia a faulty IPC, and that he'd have her scrapped. Hypatia took this as a serious offense and threat. Calhoun, threatened or offended (which I don't specifically recall), abandoned Security due to Keelin's attitude and lack of professionalism, and went off to detain the bomber on their own. When trying to detain the bomber, a detective came to the scene. He pulled out two tasers from his bag, and tried to tase the bomber. Hypatia responded by disarming the detective and taking his two guns, and conveniently, Beepsky came on scene and detained the detective. After a brief talk on what would they do with the HoS' course of action, reckless atittude and lack of professionalism, Hypatia concluded that she was willing to take him down from his horse. They were greeted nonetheless by Keelin. Hypatia and Calhoun inquired as to why the detective had two tasers, with Keelin responding that he had issued the two tasers to the detective, and ordered Hypatia to return them. Hypatia did not give them back, and Calhoun asked as to why would he provide a detective who has no access to tasers with two of these, but not provide the desperate officers with riot gear. Keelin refused to reply, and pulled out his energy pistol on Hypatia and opened fire the very instant, set to stun, and due to Hypatia being immune to tasering, she returned the non-lethal fire with the dual-wielded tasers. She quickly rushed for the Commander and slapped her cuffs onto him, and quickly dragged him away. She got rid of his headset, whilst saying, "You fucked up." Hypatia led Keelin into maintenance, away from everybody, and stripped him of his gear to make him a nuisance rather than a threat. She proceeded to say something along the lines of, "This is what you get for fucking up," and thus, bashed the man's skull in with her baton (to critical, rather than death). This is when a moderator interfered, and Keelin tried to take advantage of this to free himself and detain Hypatia. Instead, Calhoun came on scene, and pulled the Commander away from Hypatia. The Warden rushed in as well, shooting her taser at Hypatia on sight, to which Hypatia simply returned the non-lethal fire and cuffed her. With the moderator, we concluded that this was an unjustified escalation of force, although I still beg to differ, and proceeded to end the round. I did not originally intend to take the course of action I took at the end with Keelin, yet, the spark that lit the fire was the fact that he opened fire on me for refusing an order. And one last thing as to the round I've just described, is the fact that as soon as the shuttle arrived, I went and sat down in the holding cell with the cuffed Warden beside me. As the shuttle made it's way to Odin, Keelin took a dash from the cockpit to the holding cell, pulled out his energy carbine (or pistol), set it to lethals, and opened reckless fire on my character, leaving her in critical, then uttered something along the lines of, "That's what you get." With this last situation described that I experienced with Chaznoodles, it is needless to say I deem him severly unfit for the position of his own, yet, I ought to leave that for a complaint once this one ends. Hypatia is supposed to be a confrontational character, as it's the way I intended her to be. She is questioning of the authority she deems unfit, abusive and things of the sort. Her actions taken against Keelin are justified within her mentality, as she deems Keelin incompetent. But, nevertheless, that is for a supervisor to determine that. Thus, I conclude my first response to Chaznoodles' inital argument.

As per how the matter turned out, I'm sure most of the assault team who would rather stay behind than charge in with tasers and no other equipment, and myself, would say yes to such. While it was not abnormally unreasonable, it was still not the course of action that should have been taken. After the raid concluded and Security won the gunfight, I recall the HoS continously yelling that he was 'trying to establish conversation with the captors and negotiate to establish communication,' and when Hypatia questioned him by implying he could have just simply tried to establish conversation without trying to Rambo it out, he immediately tried to silence me by threatening me to have me fired if I kept talking about the matter. Read back to Murder's statement. I would also like to point (once more) that this complaint is not even about the antag-part of the round, but rather, the detective-shooting-at-me-and-the-cadet-with-lethals that I was told to be a loyalty implant violation. I don't really care about the assault scene. People were killed, mistakes were made, and for some reason everyone here wants to be the righteous hero. I do not state that Hypatia's actions were righteous or heroic. They are simply justified.

Rushing in with tasers and no other gear isn't necessarily the best option either. The steps in the FEP topic are considerably more reasonable than that. Or planning, at all, rather than just go in, wailing non-lethal weaponry and brandishing no armor at all.

I originally intended to make this an IR, for the entire detective issue, and the "Fucking die" and "You're retarded" was antag-driven, given that Chaz's character failed to follow First Encounter Protocol and got captured by the nuke operatives instead. The "Fucking die" was spoken whilst Hypatia downed one of the ops, and the "You're retarded" was after the situation had cooled down, directed to the bloody HoS was standing in front of the Medbay. However, I explained the entire situation to a moderator, and this moderator told me that drinking behaviour, failure to attend to when called regarding Security matters and the detective issue was to be taken to a player/character complain, rather than IR. I was informed this was a violation of the loyalty implant. And once more, the "Fucking die" and "You're retarded" was antag-driven, and I would not be putting that in an Indicent Report. I hold nothing personal against Chaznoodles' character, and my intentions are to solve and clarify this matter. Regarding Hypatia's "erratic" behaviour, that's a yes and a no, though I won't bother to explain how my character's been developed thus far until this point. Once more, I do not mean to criticize, but rather, clarify this entire issue. Regarding the newcop issue, the thing is that the HoS failed to follow the FEP. He went right for Research, where the hostages and the operatives were, screaming over sec comms to go only with tazers. No armory, no nothing. The operatives were denoted as armed and hostile. As far as I'm concerned, no officer - for the sake of sanity - followed his rush and thus the HoS got captured. HoSless, the remainder of the Security team was unsure what to do. We simply geared up and intended to clear the situation. We rushed in, and as soon as Security and the Newcops saw each other, gunfight ensued. It is not certain who killed the two civillians, given that I printed the logs too late. Security won, newcops and civillians cloned, boom, done. As Hypatia stated, several times, something along the lines of, "We're not your best military personnel around. We do not have special weapons and tactics training. We're mall cops. You failed to follow the FEP, and this led to us taking the action we deemed right. This falls under your responsiblity." Hypatia was not the one leading the assault team, rather, she was simply the one who stood up to defend the assault team's actions. The team was led by the Warden at that time, Hypatia was simply one in the front.

BYOND Key: InquisitorJohn Player Byond Key: Chaznoodles Staff involved: - Reason for complaint: The reason for the writing of this complaint is because of a little incident that happened in the early minutes of one of the rounds the 15th. It was reported over Security comms that a cadet had fired a practice laser gun at the eyes of another, cadet, and he was warned for it. After that, the cadet went to Hydroponics and, from what was reported, tried to assault the Hydroponicist, God knows why. I attended the scene, and the cadet was trapped inside. The door was opened for me, and I held the cadet in place, while I called for the HoS, Josen Keelin - or Chaznoodles - to attend. At that time, he was at the bar, drinking. He did not respond over Security comms. The detective (Mephistopheles Azazael) attended, and by the time he did, the cadet floored me with a couple of punches. The cadet tried to run, and the detective for some reason drew his lethal revolver, and opened fire on the cadet, who got hit several times. Hypatia yelled for the detective to stop, and even stepped in his line of fire for him to stop, resulting in her getting shot twice in the head. The detective stopped, after a while, and after Hypatia called out for the HoS over comms for him to stop the detective from using lethals, he did not respond. Hypatia went to the bar, and tried to haul the HoS off from the stool, who was drunk at the time. She couldn't due to injuries, which made her hands useless. She informed him of the situation, through yelling, and thus he went off to deal with the detective. After a while, and after getting Hypatia repaired, the HoS spoke over comms, to the detective saying "Just don't do it again." Even after the detective opened lethal fire on a cadet and an officer, he went unpunished. I originally intended to report this on Incident Reports, but I was informed that the entire drinking, ignoring comms and applying no punishment to what the detective did was a violation of the loyalty implant the HoS is supposed to have, and thus, it was to be reported here. Approximate Date/Time: 15th December, nearly 11pm.

BYOND Key: Inquisitorjohn Character name: Hypatia Item name: Father's Suit Why is your character carrying said item to work? During the final years of Project Hypatia, the lead researcher Doctor Churchill had begun feeling pity for the machine that saw itself forced to be locked up in the lab each day. It was a matter of time until the pity took his mind over, thus giving in to the lure of the poor machine. Churchill offered the little machine to "leave the lab for an hour or two," to which the machine helplessly accepted. The sudden event had eventually become routine. And it was a matter of time until the two had become more than creator and creation, but rather, father and daughter. With Churchill's unexpected death and the downfall of Project Hypatia, the machine was left to roam on her own. Her creator had not left much to her; some money, some papers and drawings the very machine had worked on, and the impeccable-looking suit the man used to wear when the two spent time together. This suit had remained stored away for many years, but now, after working for some time on the NSS Aurora, Hypatia seems to have found a certain crewmember that heavily reminds her of her creator. Remembering the item of clothing that had remained locked away for so long, she decided to not have to tuck it away in order to forget about it, but rather, wear it with pride, for it may be the last thing of her father left. Item function(s): Clothing, in the suit slot. Item description: An astonishingly clean suit that faintly smells of freshly baked bread. Item appearance: The IAA suit, which I would be wearing with a waistcoat atop. Additional comments:

Reporting Personnel: Hypatia. Rank of Reporting Personnel: Assistant. Personnel Involved: Walter Brooks, Head of Security. Time of Incident: Real time: 28/11/2015, nearly 2200PM GMT. Location of Incident: NSS Aurora, Central Primary Hallway. Nature of Incident: []Workplace Hazard []Accident/Injury []Destruction of Property []Neglect of Duty [x]Harassment []Assault [x]Misconduct []Other _____ Overview of the Incident: It began somewhere near two to three minutes as soon as we had arrived to the NSS Aurora. I headed right for the equipment storage, where I began to gear up. As I was doing so, Commander Brooks walked by and stopped at the window to look at me. After mere seconds, he spoke in a hostile tone something along the lines of "Great, another machine." Swallowing it down, I proceeded to finish gearing up, dismissing such. I fetched the gas mask I use daily, whatever my rank is, and thus went off for patrolling. Five minutes into my patrolling, an assistant wearing insulated gloves began inquiring why do I wear the gas mask, and repeating over and over that I looked creepy in it. I dismissed it and continued patrolling - while this assistant followed me, of course, repeating the same thing - until Commander Brooks walked by and halted me. He ordered me to take the mask off, to which I asked why, since it's not against any regulations (checking with the regulations, wearing a mask does not seem to fall under Suspicious Conduct as a cadet said). He ordered me once more, in a more aggressive tone, to take it off, to which I replied that I would if he asked me politely and he had some respect for me. To this, he replied three words. "You are fired." Thus, I was forced to take my gear off, which I left on the ground before the Commander along with my identification card. I went into isolation from there on, unwilling to see his face. With the headset still on, I heard the Commander talking to an officer about my firing, to which I interfered by stating I was fired for wearing a mere gas mask. The Commander began calling me names (insulting, of course), referencing the fact that I'm an integrated positronic chassis, along with some others such as "Idiot." Did you report it to a Head of Staff or IAA? If so, who?: Valorallen Vitellia, Head of Personnel. Jester Stamos, Captain. Additional notes: I have the demotion paperwork with me, should it be needed. The reasons for my demotion seem to be the following; "Extreme disrespect. Refusal to obey orders. Open want to disturb crewmembers." If needed, I'll gladly fax it to the office you require me to. If possible, I would like to get my job in Security, given that I'm unwilling to lose what I've worked for over such a petty reason.

Hypatia was a greek female philosopher during the medieval times, considered to be a prodigy. A very renowned one. Metallic persimmons.

An accident. Already asked for deleting.

BYOND Key: InquisitorJohn Character Names: Kyra Willoughby, Augustus Forsythe. Species you are applying to play: Integrated Positronic Chassis. What color do you plan on making your first alien character (Dionaea & IPCs exempt): - Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: Yes. Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question Why do you wish to play this specific race: I wish to be whitelisted as an IPC for the reason most highlight when applying for a race. As a roleplayer, I thoroughly enjoy to be able to roleplay different concepts and characters, personalities, and so on. To roleplay an IPC means exactly that, to allow me to try an entire new concept of roleplay and way of gameplay. Personally, I chose IPC over any of the other races because I believe it's a concept I could get easily adapted to, and one I would certainly enjoy. After a talk with one of the players regarding the IPC race and it's explanation, I believe it's what I like the most, yet I would still like to try other races sooner or later. Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: IPCs, as perhaps all the races do, differ from humans in several characteristics, but these are mostly physical characteristics, rather than society-wise or emotional-wise. The physiology of an IPC is entirely different to that of a human, which can vary from IPC to IPC, depending on the model built. Generally speaking, IPCs are composed of a complex system of wiring and metallic structures within, along with some hardware to allow their movement as part of their 'skeleton'. They also hold an entirely different brain from what a human would, these brains being in most cases entirely synthetic. One of the more highlighted characteristics about their brains are that they can be moved from body to body, no matter size or shape, and can also be functional without a body. IPCs do not eat, drink, breathe or sleep. They obtain the energy they utilize for movement, thought and so on from APCs. Due to their mechanical self, many IPCs tend to be considered lower beings than humans, yet they are seeming to come closer and closer to social acceptance, specially for the shell IPCs, those who wear synthetic skin over their mechanical skeletons and seem like a human, often mistaken to be one. While not entirely different from humans - since they were made to be like humans - IPCs are a new experience, given the new principles they must follow to keep themselves alive and how this will affect their interaction with others. Character Name: Hypatia. Please provide a short backstory for this character, approximately 2 paragraphs Created by Doctor John Churchill, Hypatia is an Integral Positronic Chassis created and designed by a small team of roboticists in an early minor project on IPC self-awareness and deep-thought capabilities, led by Churchill himself, that of which took place almost immediately after the "IPC technology Boom". Hypatia's personality was scarcely designed. It was provided basic guidelines for the chassis to follow, accurately resembling the basic instincts of a human, along with self-developing software.. Early testing resulted in Hypatia manifesting savage behaviour, only what could be described as an aggressive primate. From this point on, further developing of Hypatia's self continued, yet tried to leave it's personality almost untampered. After several months of research, the team ultimately provided Hypatia with the fundamental human needs; subsistence, protection, affection, understanding, participation, leisure, creation, identity and freedom. Testing with such programming proved to be a success. Hypatia had acquired decent human behaviour. With the correct stimuli, the research team successfully managed to drive the self-develop software to mold Hypatia into a critical-thinking being, and it was not long before she began to question her surroundings, who she was, what she was. Over the course of several months, Hypatia grew more and more curious towards her own existence, as well as life itself. She grew inquisitive and isolated, devoted as much as her creators were on her very self - to the point she was occassionally allowed to participate in team discussions regarding the very research. After Doctor Churchill's sudden death few years later, the project went downhill almost instantly. Without the lead, the motivation dropped largely. Funding decreased drastically, and eventually, the project had to be shut down. Having found no point in subjecting Hypatia into further investigation, she was ultimately set free by the researchers. Her very creators gathered a collective sum of money from their own accounts to give to Hypatia, and thus send her on her way. From there on, the female chassis wandered around NanoTransen, living off the little capital she had. She was assigned to do minor tasks such as cleaning and cooking in several stations. Only several months, she could afford to buy herself a Genetics software to install, that which would give her the knowledge to practice Basic Life Support and be able to practice Genetics. Once installed, she was later assigned to the NSS Aurora, which from there on she would be working as the Geneticist she dreams to be, in the quest of finding out what life really is and means. What do you like about this character? Everything, really. I've molded Hypatia into a mixture of concepts I enjoy, from being an IPC to being having a philosopher-like demeanor. I made her personality the way I portrayed it in my mind, with some guidance from few players around. Her backstory being, not necessarily unique, but rather interesting - speaking for myself, at least. How would you rate your role-playing ability? I do not believe myself to be the perfect roleplayer, and perhaps scarcely reaching decent levels of such. I have been roleplaying for quite some time now, and yet, even after such long time, I still find myself learning new and new stuff and learning how to improve my roleplay every day. i do make mistakes often every now and then, and personally it does not bother me. You can only learn from a mistake. Notes: -

Personally, I have thoroughly enjoyed roleplaying with Emily ever since I first registered. I have interacted with several characters of her own, and she still manages to surprise me with each concept and development she implements to such. I would not doubt that she deserves and will be able to uphold the responsibility of a Head of Staff. I have learnt more from her, both IC and OOC, than anyone else in this station, and I am glad I get to roleplay with her often.

BYOND Key: InquisitorJohn Total Ban Length: 4320 minutes, a week and half a day. Banning staff member's Key: Garnascus Reason of Ban: "Gross escalation of force with carbine, meta-gaming antag behaviour from cultists, firing lethals on officer arresting you, after you were released in the hallway without any RP." Reason for Appeal: To begin with, I'm not particularly happy at this ban. Something I should explain first, and that I'm already expecting to not be believed is that during my conversation with Garnascus to justify the whole RP situation, I experienced a black-out. I used my phone to contact a player to contact Garnascus so he may know what was happening, and I was told that Garnascus would have to finish his investigation. Thus, without waiting, PMing via forums or anything in particular, I was banned without allowing me to explain my side of the story. Now, moving on to the story itself, in chronological order. Back in that Cult round, I was the Warden. Firstly, a cultist was brought in to Processing while I was handling a whiny inmate. I did not pay attention to the situation in Processing, other than the reports of two players being freaked out by the cultist. After a moment, some chatting here and there with the cultist, he decided to do the wonderful act of spawning a ghost. The ghost, of the CMO to be precise, walked out of Processing and past my character - and thus he noticed. He walked to processing and escorted the two freaked players out, with the report of the AI explaining the ghost as some sort of hologram. Mister X, the offended party in this situation, was inquiring to the cultist about his powers and such while I watched. After some conversation here and there, the cultist's eyes glowing blue and rune-spawning like a freak, the cultist invited X to step on the magical rune that made his eyes glow and such. My character tried to warn X against it, but was not listened to. After X experiencing motor spasms and whatnot - as I were informed, they were motor spams rather than writhes in pain - my character frowned and tried to inquire about this cultist. My character warned the cultist to erase the blood-letters that made his eyes glow and whatnot, and to stop spawning the 'holograms' out of thin air, which he didn't cease to. After several warnings to the cultist, my character became not only annoyed and angered, but freaked out. As soon as he walked for the armoury to supply himself with an energy carbine as precaution (unlawful or not, code green, blue, red, delta or whatever floats your boat, it was solely an IC action based off my character's emotions and situation, and I'm pretty aware of it). Officer X immediately followed up to my character as soon as he hinted implicitly he'd be going for the armoury, and even tried to slither in behind him despite not having any sort of access (the door's lights flashed red after I closed them, saw that very clearly). Once armed, I returned back to processing, where another ghost and rune were awaiting. With a cadet my character is very fond of, X and a scientist that god knows why was there, were watching, I began to tell the cultist to force the 'hologram' to disappear and erase the rune, which he refused to once again. My character grew aggressive in speech, carbine out and on lethals. No aim was raised, no shots were fired, no threats were spoken. After ordering the cultist to explain all of that several times aggressively, Officer X rushed in with his taser and began opening fire on me, for which I with lethals already set, returned fire. I was tased, couldn't prevent that. The cadet took my carbine and Rawhide cuffed me and took me right for the cells. He stuffed my items in the locker and set my in jail for 27 minutes. I asked for allowance to communal, which was opened. As soon as I went into communal, the cultist was freed and he gathered up with X and the scientist. They began talking about swords and handing each other some, which I explicitly saw through Communals and Cell's window, and heard - not to mention the AI also reported X carrying a sword around. Once in Communals, my character entered some sort of depressive state. The cadet he liked entered communals and pleaded for him to escape with her, for which he refused, calling her a "treacherous fuck" for not having stopped X. Regardless, the cadet stuck beside him. Eventually, after attacking X once with a chair to get more time in Communals (already imprisoned when attacking X), X left the Brig, leaving the cadet and my character alone. After a discussion, they both agreed on breaking my character out. He was handed the carbine rifle the cadet had kept, given that I had no access to the armoury any longer and my character said his goodbye to the cadet he so liked. After being allowed access out of the Brig, my character charged right for X's position with the carbine he was given. After encountering him, he immediately opened fire on X - beheading him. Sweet, sweet revenge (and (in)justice!). My character was detained by Beepsky and the detective, opened fire at with lethals. He was taken to the Medbay, where he died eventually. That's when Garnascus contacted me, and when the black-out happened, leaving me unable to explain the rest of the story. All the actions my character took were solely based on instinct and emotion, nothing more, nothing else. This is an RP server, and thus, we are allowed to roleplay and develop our characters the way we want. This is how my character responded to the situation at hand, and that, is solely my opinion. Share it or not, that's about it. I'm not going to explain point by point why I should be unbanned and how I didn't commit said thing or whatnot. I'm posting what happened for what it is, and it is up to whoever may review this to judge whether my banning was fair or not.