StacyScene Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 BYOND Key: StacyScene Total Ban Length: Until Contested Banning staff member's Key: Melariara Reason of Ban: Joined as their bartender character after being told their actions were considered canonical. Didn't want to listen to like, everyone ever about it. Told to contest on the forums. Reason for Appeal: So, I had been playing in Aurorastation for about a week or so, I had never really fully comitted to HRP before, and decided to try my hand with this server, I had taken up as Bartender here and really, really enjoyed my time, I was reading just about every piece of lore and wiki articles that your fine Editors and Lore Writers have placed, and I took as much time as possible to create my character, I had gotten into an altercation with Security forces over a weapons permit as my bartender, and I had assumed I did everything correctly at the time to properly Roleplay and Escalate it to bring about a good, clean little RP Event, I wasn't setting out to be hostile and simply wanted to create a little drama, but it had spiraled out of control when a member of security had threatened to kill me, in which case things ended violent. When I was jailed I was messaged by an Admin, but they had only told me to be careful about Self-Antagging, so I assumed that was the end of it, when I was then continually being a nuisance ICly I was eventually deemed to be Marooned. I had zero idea what Marooning meant, nor what it would mean for my character, I had zero staff interaction that gave me warning nor advice on what was happening and presumed I was only putting forth an interesting roleplay opportunity, to be a whiny, arrogant Dominian character, and had I knew what was awaiting me, I would not have done so at all. And such I was eventually deemed to be Marooned, and a Security Guard was to do the "Honors" in which we were boarded by pirates, or such, it was some form of actual antagonistic event, so while my marooning didn't technically happen, the "Charges" or such did, though, I was also so new that I had no idea what even really happened at the time, as I was actually eventually executed with a shotgun by a member of security, possibly illegally. And I could not accept that my character I had put so much work into, taking notes, reading the wiki, and trying my uptmost best to fit in with the community we have, was to be gone, and I lashed out when told about it, and I admit I was wrong to refuse to take the advice of Mel at the time, though I only wish I were given advice, a warning, or some form of foreknowledge before this all happened as to what anything meant, I had read the rules as well but I did not know about Permadeath, I saw the Canonical bit, but I did not know that meant death/criminal charges were part of such, and so I refused to take it, and asked for an exemption so I could go forward with the knowledge, and when I was told no, I readied up with the character anyway, and was given my ban. I really, really miss this community, and server, and would absolutely do anything to get back to it, I am regretful and sorry for my actions, I hope I can be forgiven and we can find a way to deal with this matter, thank you for reading. Link to comment
Melariara Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Hello. I am the one who banned you, and I have some questions and some advice for future, should this be accepted. 58 minutes ago, StacyScene said: Self-Antagging I have found a definition of self antagging for you, just to hopefully shed a little bit of light on the situation. Spoiler Self-Antag A term for a player who engages in antagonist-like activity without actually being an antagonist. This encompasses a wide variety of behavior, but is typically used to describe annoying behavior or actions which are greatly detrimental to other players for no purpose. 28 minutes ago, StacyScene said: I had zero idea what Marooning meant, nor what it would mean for my character, I had zero staff interaction that gave me warning nor advice on what was happening 30 minutes ago, StacyScene said: but I did not know about Permadeath, I saw the Canonical bit, but I did not know that meant death/criminal charges were part of such If you are ever, ever unsure on what will happen to a character, or what something means, AHELP it. We are here to answer questions. Also, people are more than happy to answer questions on our discords, in OOC and in LOOC. You can also find things on our various wiki pages. If you need links to all of these, I can provide them. The actions you performed were not actions we want to see from sane, well rounded characters as well. Are you also aware that the character, Stacy Caladius, will no longer be able to be played? If you have any questions about anything, please don't hesitate to ask here. Link to comment
StacyScene Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Melariara said: The actions you performed were not actions we want to see from sane, well rounded characters as well. If you could shed light on this, I'd love to hear your input, I was verbally threatened with being killed by a member of security, how would you have proceeded if a sec officer were to say they planned on "Leaving you in a bodybag" and jumping across your counter into your workstation? I assumed self-defense was a reasonable reaction, but if I'm mistaken let me know. 11 minutes ago, Melariara said: Are you also aware that the character, Stacy Caladius, will no longer be able to be played? I'm aware, though I'm also aware that the rule specifically states "All events of conflict will be considered canon unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties or spurred by a round antagonist-related action." and I will hopefully find an avenue in which the other party agrees to make the event that happened non-canon, if I can find out whom made the marooning decision in the first place, possibly through Discord or such. 13 minutes ago, Melariara said: If you are ever, ever unsure on what will happen to a character, or what something means, AHELP it. We are here to answer questions. Also, people are more than happy to answer questions on our discords, in OOC and in LOOC. You can also find things on our various wiki pages. If you need links to all of these, I can provide them. And for this, I was Ahelped when I was jailed, what I mentioned there was that the Admin who was handling my Ahelp did not mention to me what anything about my sentencing or further consequences were, so I had no idea at the time to bring upon any of that up. 14 minutes ago, Melariara said: Self-Antag A term for a player who engages in antagonist-like activity without actually being an antagonist. This encompasses a wide variety of behavior, but is typically used to describe annoying behavior or actions which are greatly detrimental to other players for no purpose. And finally for this, I have read the rules that state "Conflict is acceptable, even if you are not an antag, but it needs to be believable" Which I fully believe it was, I merely made statements that lead to a security officer threatening my life, to which I defended my own life with reasonable response. Everything that lead up to the moment was entirely roleplayed out in a believable fashion to what I understand, I only did not know the consequences for my character until it was too late. Thank you for the questions. I appreciate your reply. Link to comment
Melariara Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 20 hours ago, StacyScene said: If you could shed light on this, I'd love to hear your input, -snip- Unfortunately, due to the period of time since this, its been too long. But, if that ever happens again, you're encouraged to ahelp it or write an IR on it. 20 hours ago, StacyScene said: event that happened non-canon, Probably won't be allowed to happen, I'm afraid. 20 hours ago, StacyScene said: And for this, I was Ahelped when I was jailed, Yes, because you were going way too crazy, if I remember correctly. 20 hours ago, StacyScene said: Which I fully believe it was Please ahelp in future. Anything else? Link to comment
StacyScene Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 23/08/2023 at 06:52, Melariara said: Anything else? Nothing else, thank you for your time. Link to comment
Melariara Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 Alright. As long as you ahelp in future, I'm happy to lift this. Just keep in mind to ahelp things in future, preferably before the round ends. Appeal accepted. Link to comment
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