GeneralCamo Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 This was a collaboration between @Farofafeijao and myself. I worked on the integration with other species, the army, and the politics. @Farofafeijao worked on the Navy, the format for the equipment, and gave a lot of pointers and got the ball rolling with this. Lore Impact (Small/Medium/Large): Medium/Large Species: Human and tajara, with some IPC involvement Short Description: This is a comprehensive expansion of Himeo's military, and its branches and structure. Himeo is a unique place, and this is reflected in its military compared to other militaries (including the All-Xanu Armed Forces). How will this be reflected on-station?: Two things mainly: It provides a new background for Himean characters as veterans of the Planetary Guard (primarily enlisted), as well as formalizing a ban of Himeans veterans joining the EPMCs (equivalent to Hephaestus due to their position as the official military of the Eridani Corporate Federation, the antithesis of everything Himeo stands for (and it helps Hephaestus has a seat there)). It may also provide characterization for the Frontier Rangers, and expansion opportunities for the XDS down the line. Does this addition do anything not achieved by what already exists?: There is little to no lore on the Himean military. This was primarily made before the Xanu expansion, but we felt it was a good time to continue this anyway due to that recent project. Do you understand that the project may change over time in ways you may not foresee once it is handed over to the Lore Team? Yes Long Description: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQzSOOI1ZZ18rGJo_2qPZkirhWDlvdRSV37jZFN0kUJDBphaUqzFeN7xiRjP3690a5NyGTRJJ7vZ2C9/pub We'd like to note that names are up for debate, and we're more than happy to discuss any feedback. We in particular disagreed on the naming of the voidguard, and questioned whether renaming the entire syndicate to the Unified Planetary Guard was a good idea. 2 Link to comment
La Villa Strangiato Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 This is absolutely, unequivocally, too long. I will return shortly with more criticism and comments. 1 Link to comment
La Villa Strangiato Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I have always been an advocate of the practice of "killing your darlings". Sometimes, what you enjoy and spent a lot of hard work on just has to be cut. Also, this is just my opinion. A human lore person with actual power may decide that they like some of these things, and they can stay! Don't take this too seriously. Politics of the Himean Planetary Guard Syndicate. Himeans are socialists and that's all we need to know. Planetary Guard Significant Divisions/Planetary Navy Significant Divisions. These can all be cut down to like, a sentence under their respective section. You can namedrop them, but do we need to tell it beyond the bare details or can players headcanon it? Workers’ Homes of the Planetary Guard. Is this something that needs to be told, or can players headcanon it? I like the rank structures. They sound pretty cool. I do like the detail that fauna from Adhomai has been transported to Himeo for logistics stuff, but I thiiiiink that Himeo is a bit more inhospitable than Adhomai? Like, the average temperature for Himeo is -58.2C, and Adhomai's record low is -119C. Himeo is cold as shit! Not to mention, Himean winds strip the shit out of everything that's left above-ground, so I don't think Adhomian animals would be having too good of a time on the surface. In general I like the non-humans section, and while I think Planetary Guard Members Off-world could stand to be truncated a bit, this is a decent expansion. It's really long, though. 1 Link to comment
GeneralCamo Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) The plan was a breakaway page. However, I am fully concious of the need to cut stuff. Some of it also could easily be incorporated into the main page. Really the history of the armed forces is the history of Himeo itself. Honestly after Xanu was released, I was concerned this might be too long. Farofa convinced me otherwise however. 15 minutes ago, La Villa Strangiato said: Politics of the Himean Planetary Guard Syndicate. Himeans are socialists and that's all we need to know. It's designed to show that the syndicate itself is a bit of a pragmatic adaptation of the ideals of syndicalism. It was formed not long after the COC itself was formed, so it was pretty much formed from paranoia that Sol would attack them. However, I am tempted to agree the nitty gritty of organization is probably a bit much, and should probably be cut. 15 minutes ago, La Villa Strangiato said: Planetary Guard Significant Divisions/Planetary Navy Significant Divisions Tempted to agree on the army, thoguh Farofa worked on most of the navy divisions so he can give his opinions there. 15 minutes ago, La Villa Strangiato said: Workers’ Homes of the Planetary Guard. Is this something that needs to be told, or can players headcanon it? Some of it yes, though some of it no. Mainly though I'm more concerned about those on leave using them for training, which I based on the Swiss model. We can probably headcanon the contents just fine. 15 minutes ago, La Villa Strangiato said: I don't think Adhomian animals would be having too good of a time on the surface. This is existing lore, I didn't make this. However, I did note that the animals would need specialized equipment to handle the surface (insulation and whatnot). I would imagine that they would need to be swapped out every so often at an outpost as well, while humans and tajara can get by with just voidsuits designed for the cold (and any potential radiation hotspots in a crashed vessel). This might have been a bit too much detail to spell out directly though. Edited August 25, 2023 by GeneralCamo Link to comment
Farofafeijao Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Just now, GeneralCamo said: Tempted to agree on the army, thoguh Farofa worked on most of the navy divisions so he can give his opinions there. Wouldn't fight for it to stay on the app, but, i think it can give a bit more fluff to someone's background and serve as a way to have a few information about notable himean units without going into too much headcanon. Essentially, its something nice to give a bit more of volume to a backstory, like a solarian character having served into the 25th Fleet. That said, some of its aspects could be incorporated into other paragraphs. Link to comment
The7thLain Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 This application as it stands is far too large and we will not accept it at its current length, it is nearly half the length of the planet it is for. If it was maybe 2/3rds its present size it could be taken under consideration but as it stands right now, we will not accept it. Link to comment
Farofafeijao Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 hours ago, TheBurninSherman said: This application as it stands is far too large and we will not accept it at its current length, it is nearly half the length of the planet it is for. If it was maybe 2/3rds its present size it could be taken under consideration but as it stands right now, we will not accept it. I understand. Could i reach you in discord as soon as the revision is ready for a new evaluation? Link to comment
GeneralCamo Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, La Villa Strangiato said: Politics of the Himean Planetary Guard Syndicate. Himeans are socialists and that's all we need to know. Planetary Guard Significant Divisions/Planetary Navy Significant Divisions. These can all be cut down to like, a sentence under their respective section. You can namedrop them, but do we need to tell it beyond the bare details or can players headcanon it? Workers’ Homes of the Planetary Guard. Is this something that needs to be told, or can players headcanon it? I ended up cutting all of these, incorporating a little bit into the main sections but most of it is gone. Some redundancies were cut down as well for brevity's sake. The Navy's being handled by Farofafeijao. In addition, I have rewritten the history section to just expand the smallest section of the history section on the main page. It does delve into the paranoia of the Himeans, and the incorporation of the new defectors into the main army. Primarily though it serves to expand the situation the frontier faced after the war. Overall it should be much easier to digest: Edited August 26, 2023 by GeneralCamo Link to comment
Farofafeijao Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 hours ago, GeneralCamo said: I ended up cutting all of these, incorporating a little bit into the main sections but most of it is gone. Some redundancies were cut down as well for brevity's sake. The Navy's being handled by Farofafeijao. In addition, I have rewritten the history section to just expand the smallest section of the history section on the main page. It does delve into the paranoia of the Himeans, and the incorporation of the new defectors into the main army. Primarily though it serves to expand the situation the frontier faced after the war. Overall it should be much easier to digest: Im yet to clean the Planetary Navy Significant Divisions. Link to comment
GeneralCamo Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) This has been trimmed down and should be ready for a re-look. Edited September 3, 2023 by GeneralCamo Link to comment
La Villa Strangiato Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Speaking on behalf of the human lore team, this app has been denied on the basis of lack of need of additions to this part of Himean lore. Link to comment
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