Reduce IPC chemical storage

[Lady_of_Ravens]

It makes sense for humans to have a lot of chemical storage space... they need it for all that blood! But why, oh why, should my IPC be able to honestly say "I'm 40% chemical storage space"?

300 units seems like more than enough.

[Killerhurtz]

It mostly stems from the fact that it used to be a remnant of code from being a species.

Anyhow - if you think about it, it also makes sense. If you've ever held a large beaker, it can easily hold a litre. Four to six litres of chemical storage is, realistically, not that big - if anything, what needs to be changed is the scale of the chemicals - because as it stands, while 4000 volume isn't that big, 4000 chemical is pretty much enough to heal/destroy a small village.

[Lady_of_Ravens]

It's been a while since the last time I held a beaker IRL, but for a more plebeian example... take a pair of two liter soda bottles and try to imagine where they'd fit inside the groin of your average IPC.

Now try to imagine it in a non-robosexual way.

[Killerhurtz]

According to surgery code, the groin includes the abdomen as well (as you can remove the liver and kidneys from there).

BUT THAT ASIDE, in the groin of a creature that has no bladder and only very minimal bone structure, I can EASILY see 2 2-liter bottles fit in the general region defined as where the hipbones would be. Throw in space optimization, and you could easily throw a litre or two extra in there, even accounting for fist-sized servo-actuators. That is, of course, assuming for what I consider a medium-sized IPC (5'9", 3ft hip and shoulder width, ~14 inch hip and shoulder depth - for the metrics out there, that would be ~1.6m tall, 80-100cm hip/shoulder width, ~35cm hip/shoulder depth) in accordance with average human size. Results may vary if you use different standards.

Point is, this suggestion depends on realism vs balance. Is it unbalanced? Not really - sure, they have 4000 units of storage, but can't store acids and can only take them out 5/15 units at a time (depending on if you count per action or per item of extraction).

[jackfractal]

I reeeally don't know why the chemical storage was left in. IPC's should not have weird bags of fluid inside them. That space should be taken up with robot bits. I'm not really sure what the point is, aside from wacky stuff like making yourself into a smoke grenade.

[Killerhurtz]

You can't really make yourself into a smoke grenade because IIRC the maximum amount of reactant you can consume is 10 (with a bottle), and at that point I think the chemical containment reacts like a grenade and clears itself. It's more of a scenario where they can carry large amount of dylovene/dexalin/so on.

[Lady_of_Ravens]

Yes, I know the groin is the abdomen too... but even so, 4 liters of volume is a lot to commit to a system which is only sorta useful, and IPCs don't seem to have a lot of spare space for superfluous frills. So ICly it makes no sense... OOCly it's an insane amount of storage balanced only by the fact that it's such a pain to use. A 300ml storage container is far more realistic and nearly as useful for loading up with tricord or whatever.

[NebulaFlare]

Do any IPCs even use this? I know my IPCs don't.

[Lady_of_Ravens]

One time a golem ran up to LiLITH and injected her with water 'cause it... I don't know... thought she was a slime core? But that's the only time her chem storage has ever had anything in it.

[MagnificentMelkior]

Can IPC storage work as a bomb? For example, put enough potassium in to hit the bomb cap and destroy the IPC in a watery area (holodeck beach?)

[Killerhurtz]

Holodeck beach is not real water. The biggest explosion you can do is 10 of each because that's the most liquid an IPC can take at once (from a bottle).

[Gollee]

Syringe in a syringe gun would deliver 15

[Killerhurtz]

Gollee, I actually tried that. Either I seriously failed, or syringe guns actually don't work on IPCs (or if they do they only deliver 5)

[Guest]

IPC suicide bombing is not possible without modification of variables.