Wolfwood88

Want to state my bias here since I main Nicholas Nelond. Him and Astor Shaner are BFF's, but I like to believe our characters are BFF's because CanadianDollar excels at understanding the game mechanics, and providing interesting, and engaging roleplay. If more players understood that the game is about weaving a narrative, and knew the mechanics behind the game to help progress the story like CanadianDollar does, the server would never have a shortage of interesting roleplay. +1

Yeah, there was some miscommunication, it's alright these things happen. I wasn't even aware at the time that you though I may be potentially trying to abuse the spawn system to circumvent my suspension, since that wasn't my intent, it hadn't really occurred to me, so I think we were just coming at this from two different points of view, and because I was already frustrated about the silly nature of the incident, it got escalated to this level. You specify that I was suspended from Medical doctor only, and that's where the confusion came from, so I am confused now; Is there another type of suspension that IncognitoJesus could have specified that would have actually resulted in me having to be kept off station that shift? I am just asking for clarification, I don't want to re open the issue, I consider it closed and well handled and appreciate all of the responses.

The patient was not asked about the full arm replacement in front of the Chief Medical Officer. I got there when the patient, Shaner, and Nelond were headed towards the operating room. As for the allegations of there was a suspension without any sort of investigation, let me make this clear: the suspension was for the duration of the shift. It is within a head of staff's jurisdiction to suspend employees under their rule at their discretion with the support of the Captain. The Captain, Auralia, approved said suspension. Do you want to know how you would know? Because they were the one who modified your ID and saw your character throw said ID at mine. They approved it once I said why I was doing it. There is no need for a full blown investigation into events that transpired during the round, within the department, and in full view of the head of staff. Just like how your supervisor doesn't need to get HR involved to tell you to go home after you mess something up. With that being said, let's move onto the whole coming back from cryo situation. When you decided to join back after I cryo'd, you joined as a medical doctor, the same exact job with the same ID as you did before you were suspended. You were given a suspended ID, and therefore abused the mechanics of the game in order to get your access and job position back. That's why you weren't allowed to come back, because there is no safety net in-game to give you a suspended ID. In fact, the company wouldn't revive you from cryogenic storage during the same shift you were suspended in because you literally have no purpose aboard the station at the time. If you didn't want to deal with this situation, you shouldn't have gone to cryo immediately after being suspended and telling your friends about it. If you had stayed aboard after your suspension, you would not have been brigged, as your character had not broken any regulation besides maybe battery because you threw the ID (which wasn't reported). That was a misunderstanding, and should have been brought up. Oh, and to add, you weren't suspended for telling me that I was incompetent. You were suspended for performing what ICly would be a risky operation. You turned a prosthetic addition into an invasive and traumatic operation. Additionally, I did not perform the operation, Shaner did, Once again we received approval, you were told that at the time and after the fact, I know the captain changed my ID, I was dissapointed in the fact he asked no questions about any of the charges, and lastly once again I am not complaining about the suspension but how it was enforced, I have said all I have to say on the matter, my intentions and actions are made very clear in the logs I have provided, if you believe I was trying to circumvent game mechanics, look at the logs, I was fully willing to cooperate to maintain the round IC and canon. This potentially could have all been avoided if I had just been told to go to the HoP office to get my ID rectified again.

You were in the observation room, at the time before we started the surgery. And Like I said, I was willing to comply again with an ID change to reflect my suspension and not practice medicine that shift, I made that abundantly clear in the chat logs. I was willing to remain suspended, appeal, etc. whatever was necessary to maintain the canon of the round. *Edit: Additionally I left my ID on the medbay lobby desk, and made it abundantly clear I was not going to practice medicine. A simple ID change at the HoPs by command staff to visitor, or suspension again would have worked, and I was willing to do those. I was not trying to circumvent game mechanics in any way.

The patient was not asked about the full arm replacement in front of the Chief Medical Officer. I got there when the patient, Shaner, and Nelond were headed towards the operating room. As for the allegations of there was a suspension without any sort of investigation, let me make this clear: the suspension was for the duration of the shift. It is within a head of staff's jurisdiction to suspend employees under their rule at their discretion with the support of the Captain. The Captain, Auralia, approved said suspension. Do you want to know how you would know? Because they were the one who modified your ID and saw your character throw said ID at mine. They approved it once I said why I was doing it. There is no need for a full blown investigation into events that transpired during the round, within the department, and in full view of the head of staff. Just like how your supervisor doesn't need to get HR involved to tell you to go home after you mess something up. With that being said, let's move onto the whole coming back from cryo situation. When you decided to join back after I cryo'd, you joined as a medical doctor, the same exact job with the same ID as you did before you were suspended. You were given a suspended ID, and therefore abused the mechanics of the game in order to get your access and job position back. That's why you weren't allowed to come back, because there is no safety net in-game to give you a suspended ID. In fact, the company wouldn't revive you from cryogenic storage during the same shift you were suspended in because you literally have no purpose aboard the station at the time. If you didn't want to deal with this situation, you shouldn't have gone to cryo immediately after being suspended and telling your friends about it. If you had stayed aboard after your suspension, you would not have been brigged, as your character had not broken any regulation besides maybe battery because you threw the ID (which wasn't reported). That was a misunderstanding, and should have been brought up. Oh, and to add, you weren't suspended for telling me that I was incompetent. You were suspended for performing what ICly would be a risky operation. You turned a prosthetic addition into an invasive and traumatic operation. We had received patient permission right in front of you, and you were told after the surgery that we had received consent and that is what the patient had requested. Also if you look at the logs I was more then willing to change my ID to comply with the suspension but being forced to be kicked off the station IS NOT part of a suspension.

I was not aware of that ICly or OOCly. Also, to provide more information on what UnknownMurder was saying. I directed the player of Ishikawa to UM to log the warning, that was a mistake on my part because it was late where I was and for some reason thought they were talking about logging Head of Staff reports on Security. I think we cleared that up in the staff discord after the round though. The CMO was still welcome to file an Incident Report on the Surgeon if they felt it necessary. After that, there would be a full investigation opened if the CCIA deemed it valid. I do not blame you for the suspension since I intended to go straight to cryo and did not very much push for an appeal, I was just disappointed with how easily it happened and under the circumstances I essentially was suspended for doing my job properly but telling the CMO he was being incompetent. *Edit: But once again my complaint is not about my suspension but how it was enforced by the admins

Also, even though I greatly disagree with the reasons why I was suspended, that is not what the complaint is about, it is the fact I was told I needed to leave the station and could not be on the station as Nicholas Nelond

This was two hours after my initial suspension if that is relevant also.

BYOND Key:Wolfwoode Staff BYOND Key:NursieKitty Game ID:(Unsure, Night of 8/7/18- Morning 8/8/16) Reason for complaint:I returned after being suspended, I had gone in to cryo when I was suspended, when I returned from cryo I was told that I could not appeal my suspension and that my presence was not even allowed on the station. To the best of my knowledge this is not how suspension is enforced. Evidence/logs/etc: Here is where I explain that I left in cryo and returned in the same manner. I was allowed to stay on station after my suspension initially, so I fail to see how I was not allowed to return. Here I explain that I understand my job suspension stands, and that I am not allowed to be a doctor currently, but I am informed I am not allowed to be on the station at all. Here I show that I understand that my suspension is an IC issue, and that with the captain inactive, the CMO gone, I ask if the only remaining command staff, the CE would be able to lift my suspension, as per the chain of command. I am told that it doesn't matter, that apparently suspensions can not be lifted and mean I am not supposed to be present on the station. Here I am being told that I was not suspended from my job.. but from the shift entirely. I had never heard of a suspension being enforced that way. Also, I would like to add, although it is only mildly relevant, I was suspended without an investigation, and for erroneous reasons. So essentially.. this opens up the capability for a head of staff to ban one character from a shift entirely without a check system according to NursieKitty's understanding of the suspension system. Lastly, I asked for clarification of what would happen if I had stayed, and I am told that I would have been brigged. This was just a job suspension, there was no criminal activity, I have never seen a normal job suspension enforced by perma brigging, or forced cryo. When I asked for further clarification I received no more responses, this is where the chat ends. Additional remarks: To the best of my knowledge the suspension system was not only very poorly used in this instance but incorrectly enforced. I was forced to sit out of a three hour round with the only character I play because of this, and it was very upsetting. If I am completing misunderstanding the suspension system please correct me, but if this is how the system stands currently it is ripe for abuse and needs to be rectified.

He should still not be inserting himself where he doesn't belong and interrupting other people's RP. There's no excuse for that, him working, acting , talking and yelling in departments he does not belong genuinely ruins roleplay for other players. Maybe some people didn't want to have to overcome Cadmus's personality through roleplay for the 6th time in the same round in a department he is not supposed to be in to begin with. Him coming in to medical and yelling at the cloned HoS that he got decapitated is a clear example of him doing this.

Wasn't that the round where the CMO was incapacitated from the AI turrets and the medical doctor dead from an EMP? Essentially the entirety of medical, with no one to treat them or others who were hurt, incapacitated? Thats still not an excuse to use knowledge outside your domain of information. Its powergaming pure and simple. The point of those situations is to use alternative, do a module reset, call a medical ERT (which almost never happens), have a captain of HoS make a personnel change so somebody can administer dylovene, have the bar or xenoflora make a plant or drink that counteracts toxin damage, eat a donk pocket.... etc.

I posted four specific examples, stated others in my initial report, and stated more directly in response to all of Veradox's points. I also spoke to his general character and behavior which some have attested to in this thread already. If that is not sufficient then I do not know what is, that is nearly half a dozen examples.. a broad character overview, and already some additional opinions of others. I do not want to get involved to the point of archiving all of Cadmus' activities, and I do not simply have the time or desire to. I feel I have provided enough feedback, information and evidence, so hopefully the community can provide more if ALL of that is not sufficient for you. If you haven't read my responses to find other examples, there is nothing I can do. Since Veradox left a large wall of text, and I initiated this complaint, I took the time to read it and respond, and provide more feedback, please read that if you want more details, that is all I am able to provide on my own, and I feel it is fairly substantial.

Oh I remember this, I believe that admins were putting him in to crit and I was actually there frantically trying to save him... and then all the sudden.. boom...and I had NO IDEA what happened, and was laughing my ass off, I was thinking "Was it an implant... was it his prosthetic exploding and something else just went really wrong?" . Was definitely a great moment.

Having to come to appeal to you to be avoided by your character should not be necessary. Also how do you plan to do that with your constant SHOUTING banter over general comms? Some people getting "the shit end of the stick" as you say is not really acceptable. I have had other characters that did things I did not like IC, but they made sense and still followed guidelines to what would be good RP IC, and thats what makes it acceptable. I feel that you overstepping your bounds, and the amount of "Brusque" and insensitive comments go way beyond the lines of what would be appropriate by any metric for good RP. "Cadmus is a character is designed to play the role of being an intelligent but brusque" That is certainly not the feeling I get from Cadmus, he is certainly good at his job, cursing every three seconds does not portray intellect, so if that is what you are aiming for, your character may need revision. If having to understand your characters background is necessary for this kind of behavior (For which I still think this character goes beyond what is acceptable anyway) Then that is a poor excuse, because new players or players who are not familiar with Cadmus have to deal with all of his actions consistently. There are no IC or OOC reasons why your character as a borg should be allowed to have this kind of behavior... and having your own IC or OOC reasons for it does not justify it. I don't feel you have hit the character you are aiming for or describe, and I don't feel what you have now creates an enjoyable RP atmosphere for most involved. The point of this game, is to have fun, and your character being so vocal means other players can not avoid your behavior, even as by request as you stated. I am not saying characters can't be brusque or off-putting or generally a jerk, but not to this extreme, not while also powergaming, and not while also inserting themselves in roles and places they don't belong.

7. Abiding by your law set does not mean you are not overstepping your bounds. Yes you are Serving, but you are serving in ways you are not supposed to. Having to say get out Cadmus each and every time you do something that is not appropriate should NOT be necessary, you should know how to act. 8. It isn't that I could not have used the cloner, I was indeed very busy doing nearly 60% of the work, it is that, you did not belong there, did not ask permission, and should not know how to do that as a borg, which seem to be the central themes of a lot of your actions. You are too busy being "Brusque" to act in the game the way you should, or stick to responsibilities that belong to you.