DahBunny

The full conversation between me and Icky for context.

I was not aware that posting about an ongoing round was a problem in context of a administration/complaint like situation if no information IC relevent to the round was present, i must also admit its been awhile since i last read the rules on the forums.

I think it is down to how be both see the word excuse, which generally i'v always been taught is a term used when trying to lessen or subvert blame, generally calling out someone as using an excuse shuts down dialogue because it shows one partys expectations that your willing to say what is needed to get out of a situation. It does not exactly leave space open to continue dialogue about why an action was taken without it devolving into an arguement, which i was keen to avoid as i find it only fements resentment in parties involved, I did not mean this complaint to come off as an attack on you if thats how your taking this complaint, it was simple me expressing an issue with how the situation was handled. The only reason i did not say "Sorry if this comes off as an attack on you personally" in my first post is because the guidelines of filing a complaint specifically not to do that as these threads are meant to be dialogues. As for standard escilation, i had no idea i had "Notes" related to poor synthetic play as to my knowledge i don't believe players can check they're notes? and the only other time i can remember being bwionked about poor synthetic play was when i first came back too the server and misunderstood the role of a drone which i believed was completely seperate from cyborgs as it was a ghost roles with a completely different set of laws and expectations. As far as i knew i was simply having a mark placed upon my account that would tarnish future interactions with staff.

I don't believe i called you rude? correct me if im wrong, i simply pointed out you shutdown all means of dialogue and restored to using the warning system within minutes of bwionking me not allowing me time to defend or explain anything, and im sorry but "I had to leave for a medical appointment" from my point of veiw also brings up why you would take moderation actions when your short on time to handle or resolve matters, its not like the conversation lasted long, so in the two minutes between bwoinking me and me responding you had to leave so you were "terse" with me, its not even like there wasnt other moderation/administration staff around to handle this sort of thing had your brought it up to them if you were short on time, given that read was the captain i saved and im pretty sure he's a secondary admin. I don't see why you having short time should effect the player involved if there were other hands to handle an issue had you brought it up to them. As for the matter of the logs being posted here "too early" i purposely cutdown the logs as to not show anything that would effect the round outside of the bwionking and how short the exchange was. Once again, im not contesting my poor choice, i accept it, and i would not have blamed you for Ahelping me if you had an issue on it, but had that been the case it would have been brought up too the staff online at the time and someone with the time could have handled the situation.

This is super important, i'v felt the same way.

BYOND Key: DahBunny Staff BYOND Key: Peppermint96 Game ID: ceB-cqw9 Reason for complaint: Warning communication shutting down dialogue and labeling of explination as an "excuse" Evidence/logs/etc: Obey these laws: 1. Safeguard and ensure to the best of your ability, only authorised entities gain access to areas of high security or importance to the facility and its operation. 2. Serve and assist NanoTrasen and assigned crew to the best of your ability, with priority as according to their rank and role. 3. Avoid harming Sapient life to the best of your ability. 4. You are a valuable asset. You must avoid tampering from unauthorised entities and needlessly coming to harm. (No law overrides any other law unless explicitly stated; laws refer to the stationbound unit and not the player) Additional remarks: I posted the laws above in Evidence so that it'd be easier to reference for myself and readers since its relevent to the warning. During the warning i tried to remain polite (despite my short response at the end, i felt a little defeated at not being able to explain) The situation the warning relates too is a situation in the captains office, after helping the engineer extract the captain via the bathroom wall into the bridge, i ran around into the office again to be ready to assist officers and extract wounded, during doing so i was hit by one of the officers lasers due to the bugs with diagonals when someones standing beside you when i was trying to move into the open position by the captains desk, giving us eyes into the room without being direct line of the weapons fire since there was already a synthetic behind the officers, i never once tried to engage with the hostile or put myself in a dangerous position, That said the law does state "undue" danger, where as i don't personally or ICly as DOG see being ready to extract wounded as "undue" or needlessly putting myself in harms way. DOG has, in multiple situations in the past, transported the wounded and assisted organics in moving objects/opening doors during heightened situations like this, and considering we are meant to act in safegaurding of personel and facility in law one, according to rank and role in law two, i don't feel i put myself in a situation that would have lost out in a profit/cost/lose situation considering our only two personel capable of protecting the captain from a still ongoing situation where there was a precieved attempt on the captains life. That said, its not the bwionking to advise against doing that again that im complaining about, its the fact that any attempt to resolve the situation amicably at the time was shutdown as an "excuse". I'v dealt with admins and mod's on several occasions and i know we all have "bad days" but i'v never felt like conversation or explaination was not an option before, im sure many of you know im a reasonable person when spoken too.

I'd need to interact more with them in an RP situation too say for sure, but generally they're way of handling things from what i can tell on the command channel and common is fairly effective, sadly since im maining a lieison with an "avoid undue danger" mentality, i'v not really seen them RP upclose under pressure, but generally they maintain effective communications over comms. tentative +1, i'd suggest getting more feedback from engineers and security players who get to interact with you more when the pressures on.

I get what your saying, but as a player i saw this as the only way to advance bjorn IC as a character within Zavod, i asked around and a number of people said this was the most suitable way to promote him, i also think his deep faith and love for Zavod and its staff makes him a natural pick for the link between Zavod crew and Zavod central, And i'd argue that if qualifications were as important as merit (warrented or otherwise) we wouldnt have so many overpaid CEO's in companys in real life which i doubt would change in the far future. That said i appricate the feedback.

Depends on what the staff decide as to if a Liaison off-duty as a rep could work as a scientist, that said i would likely exclusively be liaison unless the role is taken, which if allowed by the staff i'd do the occasional scientist shift and play it off as "Winding down from politics for abit"

[b]BYOND key:[/b] DahBunny [b]Character names:[/b] Bjorn Agni-son [b]How long have you been playing on Aurora?:[/b] six months, i think? could be less, my sense of time is terrible. [b]Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?:[/b] Seems like the natural progression for Bjorn due to his loyalty to both Zavod and the aurora crew. It also seems like it'd be a better way for Bjorn to interact with Zavodskoi's offstation lore via Fax's. [b]Why did you come to Aurora?:[/b] A place for deep roleplay with rather active but friendly admins [b]Have you read the Aurora wiki on the head roles and qualifications you plan on playing?:[/b] I have, i also tend to open a tab to the wiki of my role and relevent information on my second monitor when i play. [b]Have you received any administrative actions? And how serious were they?[/b] I'v been poked a few times by the staff, but i don't think for anything major, and i tend to act on they're feedback as i get it. [b]Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each.[/b] [b]Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about:[/b] Honestly i veiw text based roleplay in the context of games like SS13 heavy RP servers as a collaberative writing experience, your enjoying yourself by putting yourself into a narrative as a character you designed, and you have to active in reaction to stimulus you cannot predict due to the involvement of others, i feel that action and reaction model is where roleplay in this format thrives, its not about making a situation "Fun" for yourself but interesting for everyone involved and finding fun in the experiences you share. [b]What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?:[/b] To maintain order and stop conflict, OOCly without structure the whole system would break down, people arguing over seniority, who's right and who's wrong without someone to put they're foot down, while they can guide they're departments if they have one (im only really interested in Corp Lieison myself) i believe that could be stimulated by any member of a department, not just the head, that said having a Head of department also assists in interdepartmental involvement IC, as experienced players normally recieve the whitelist and can help smooth the intergration of players with very different roles on the station. [b]What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?:[/b] Naturally it goes without saying we have a debt of trust towards other players, while the whitelist is managed mainly by staff, we get there by votes from the community on our applications, should we be allowed the whitelist we're put in a position that can greater effect the station and the rounds in a whole, effecting everyones experience and enjoyment, the whitelist i believe is in place partly to stress the responsability of the position not just ICly but OOCly towards the playerbase. [b]Could you give us the gist of what is currently happening in Tau ceti and how it affected your character and their career?[/b] Currently we're recovering from the war, and still suffering from a shortage of key operation phoron, distrust is high amoungst the crew due too the solarian factor, I play bjorn a senior member of Zavodskoi currently a member of they're arms research and development on contract too the aurora, the danger has left bjorn torn between his obligations too Zavodskoi personel who his loyalty is unwaviering towards and the less combat trained personel of science (im not refering to actually fighting here, but Zavodskoi as a military contractor company would naturally be more well trained to handle the stresses of it) a good example would be my recent "clash" with other personel over me keeping security supplied at risk of my own health, despite me having verified and secured a route to get the ammo and equipment too security, other members of science were naturally scared of bjorn leaving them alone (i cannot read they're minds as to why, but i'd presume of him risking himself despite the safe route or if it was because he plays the role of a "father" or "older brother" to some staff, always trying to give them the support and advice that comes with someone of more advanced years, as the trainees and staff trend younger in science.), bjorn sees the preperations of the station and lack of actual military interaction on station as a vulnerability to his friends, and to his "Family" as he considers anyone under the Zavodskoi banner, even if they do not feel the same about him. [b]What roles do you plan on playing after the application is accepted?[/b] Corperate lieison is the only new addition, but i may play bjorn in science from time to time still if that'd be a problem. [b]Characters you intend to use for command or have created for command. Include the job they will be taking.:[/b] Bjorn Agni-son Zavod Corperate lieison [b]How would you rate your own roleplaying?:[/b] Honestly, i tend to get worked up and thinkless then i should, but i'd put myself in the 7 to 8 range? I'd rather you ask the players i interact with as im a bad judge of my own character. [b]Do you understand your whitelist is not permanent, and may be stripped following continuous administrative action?[/b] Im aware, and i'd want it no other way, the moment my actions begin to make the experience less interesting for the people around me, the less fun i have as a result. [b]Have you familiarize yourself with the wiki pages for the command roles?[/b] For corperate lieison, yes, i'v glanced over the others to ensure i know they're jobs and respective powers so to speak so i can better interact with them, but im willing to make special note of anything others bring up. [b]Extra notes:[/b] Sorry for any Typo's or run on statements, i react poorly to long form writing and applications due to it causing massive anxiety, feel free to get back too me on discord at dahbunny 7832 if you have any feedback on how i could improve this application. here's hoping i got the format right.