Sniblet

I can connect now. That's all, thanks again.

Okay, thank you. I think I'll have an easy time not repeating this. I'm still unable to connect - did you say you were bringing down the ban?

A 24 hour ban is whatever, but a note that someone in the future could use to assume that I'm a serial ERPer is forever - as we've learned with this ban happening to begin with. I also want to be absolutely sure about what I did so it doesn't happen twice. So my mistake was making the warden feel like she might have been violating the technomancer? (she seemed to brush it off, actually, but I can see it still being a bad thing if I did it to someone else)

So, to reiterate: my mistake this time was making the warden look like she was trying to ERP? The thing is, to the person you're saying not to get your dick out too, it immediately creates a situation where your character was implying theirs's was doing exactly that - attempting to undress your character for questionable purposes. This kind of thing sticks. It doesn't matter if it's observers or other players, but this kind of stuff causes issues. People aren't going to want to interact with someone who's trying to 'get people's dicks out' or the like, yeah? It's really just the kind of thing that gets cemented onto someone's reputation in a really bad way. I do not believe you were being malicious, or attempting to do that. I don't know of anyone who actually saw it that way. I was distracted once the PMs started, of course, but I don't think anyone took, or any reasonable person could have taken, my comment as an actual accusation. It's evident that you, at least, didn't think she was ERPing. Did deadchat have a different view, or something?

God OK they just replied to the ban appeal Sorry peppermint!! Can we have this talk here though, I still think you're acting on bad info

Moved from this ban appeal thread because it looks like I was using the wrong section. BYOND Key: Sniblet Staff BYOND Key: peppermint96 Game ID: Last round as of posting, probably Reason for complaint: Extensive details, complete context, etc are in the linked ban appeal. I believe I've been erroneously seen as a serial ERPer and accordingly tempbanned (and warned of a future permaban) for using immature phrasing regarding dicks as an established immature kid technomancer. My history with the ERP rule was a note (may I read it?) that I think (I do not know what the note actually is) came from me contacting staff to ask what my next steps should be in a flirty PDA conversation to avoid toeing the ERP line. I took advice from that discussion and was not scolded about the action I eventually decided to take. peppermint seems to be arguing that "I've been warned about this before," which implies that they think I've overstepped a line before, when to my knowledge I have not. I also don't think I overstepped a line this time. What I did was not, by any stretch I can currently agree with, erotic. Evidence/logs/etc: You guys should have those, I don't Additional remarks: Sorry about the confusion with the previous thread.

Looking at other threads, it looks like this is actually supposed to be a staff complaint. My mistake.

As I mentioned, I didn't go over the line before, and don't know where the line is now. I don't want to escalate this just to get any explanation of why I'm doing something wrong.

“Please note that appeals for bans that are 24 hours or under will most likely be ignored” Yeah, that’s fine. I’m not necessarily asking to have it repealed, I just want to talk some more. I think I look pretty bad to the staff, and I don’t want to. If it turns out staff made a mistake, that's bonus. BYOND Key: Sniblet Total Ban Length: 24 hours Banning staff member's Key: peppermint96 Reason of Ban: Said “I don’t care what year it is, maybe I just don’t want some lady pulling out my dick for me.” We do not allow sexual content of any kind like this. You’ve been spoken to aboutt suggestive stuff before. Knock it off, next will likely be a perma Reason for Appeal: Bear in mind I’m coming RIGHT off of that round and I’m still a little upset, but I’m trying to take my time as I think this over. So here’s the ERP rule, since I’m quite sure that this is what I’m banned for breaking: ERP, also known as Erotic RolePlay, is not allowed on the server. While displays of romantic affection and romantic scenes are acceptable, scenes of a clearly sexual intent will be broken up. (Again, use common sense for this. Sexual tension up to a point is acceptable - sexual acts in themselves are not.) And here’s some context: I’m the technomancer. I kind of didn’t want to be, and it turned out to be a sucky round. I broke tcomms first thing, didn’t really get to interact with people much, had a bad gimmick where I acted like an immature idiot IC and declared myself king. An admin talked to me about that, too. Woops. I turned technomancer off a little bit after giving up to sec, I really just don’t know how to solo antag. I’m not feeling very happy at the point leading up to the ticket. So I’m in cuffs, being processed, being talked to by an IRU shell about my villainous behavior. They tag out, and let the female warden in to get me dressed for prison. I bring up something I saw on the Security Officer page about how prisoners should ideally only be changed by officers of the same gender (female warden, male technomancer). She says no, that’s not a thing, and someone else says “it’s 2464, you’re gonna complain about having a woman do this?” or something to that effect. I say the quote in the ban reason, and the admin PM soon follows. Someone probably has the exact ticket logs, but I don’t. Basically, Peppermint feeds me the quote and asks what it’s about – I go “oh, was that over the line, ok” – Peppermint tells me it’s really bad because minors play here – I’m balancing this conversation with talking to sec as I get put away for HuT – Peppermint says I’m getting a tempban because I’ve been talked to about this before, I ask to finish the round first, I get the ban mid-conversation with sec. Didn't really get to talk to Peppermint about what was going on, and probably couldn't have made much of a case in the moment anyway. Alright. That’s the facts out of the way. Here’s why I think this – by which, especially, I mean the “next will likely be a perma” comment – is unfair to me. 1. I’ve never engaged in ERP on Aurora (or any other server, if that means anything). There was and is no intent here. 2. I used some immature phrasing in this case, like an immature idiot technomancer might have. This was not ERP. Who's getting off to that comment? 3. The time I was talked to before, was me approaching staff to ask about how far I can go in a flirty PDA exchange with Kexi Danjuma. It wasn’t me actually breaking, or toeing the ERP line, but asking how not to. That was not ERP. It could only have touched on ERP if I hadn’t talked to staff about where the line was – what I ended up doing was "sending a pic" of my character reading in the library and smirking over her glasses at the camera: picture some tame CG in a visual novel. (what I had in mind before the talk, and did not do, to be clear, had to be thrown out, and I'm not gonna describe what it was here at risk of getting hit again.) I’m okay with the tempban, if talking about dicks like a middle schooler would is over the line. But I'm really very surprised if it is, and I’ll need some work (and help, probably) to reassess my sense of where the line is. Last time I was talked to, I was told that ERP is simply roleplay that’s erotic – this time, I’ve been tempbanned for something that I feel was non-erotic. Help? I especially don’t understand why a permaban is on the table for next time. I’m not willfully disobeying anybody, and I’m not trying to get anybody’s spaceman into bed. If I make another mistake, it will genuinely be another mistake, and I probably won’t have any idea what I should have done better, if these two talks make a pattern. I've been playing on Aurora a lot lately. It's nice to actually RP with people in my spaceman game. It's been a cool new experience. Thank you for your time.

BYOND Key: Sniblet Character Names: Iphigenia Konstantinou, Liiri Alie, Karen Stahl, Natascha Marikova, Anahi Avalona, Lilija Larsdottir, Ayla Shanae, Kalini Shanae Species you are applying to play: Skrell What color do you plan on making your first alien character: Not white? I don’t think there’s a complete list of options written down anywhere outside of character setup and the code, only one of which I can access. I guess purple, super provisionally. Have you read our lore section's page on this species?: Most of them! My eyes hurt. Why do you wish to play this specific race: No one else does. I'm on my way to trying every job on the Horizon at least once, and this is the obvious Best Species to use for a psychologist. Maybe a surgeon too. Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: Synthetics are terrifying. Your face doesn't move. You're constantly aware of your government standing somewhere behind you, watching. Conforming to all expectations is the only way you can get anywhere in life. The air is always too dry. Nobody but your own kind really gets you. You allegedly get a sense of what other people are thinking before they've expressed it, but this isn't mechanically supported. But you’re used to it. Character Name: What even are Skrell naming conventions? All that’s written is that an apostrophe in the surname represents a “marriage,” and a lot of their names and words (and Nral’Malic ingame) look similar to slime language. It looks like the Qu’ prefix means “of,” but I haven’t seen it used in a name anywhere that I can recall. Who’s to say it couldn’t be, though? Qu’aqea Qualia This can be shortened to QaQ, or Quack, convenient and fun for a medical Skrell. I’m imagining here that Qualia is a Solarian loanword that means what it does in English, so the first name means “Of-aqea” and the surname means “Quality.” I’ll then pretend that aqea means “what,” so the full name is the question, “Of-what quality?” “What are you?” Please provide a short backstory for this character: Surgeon main, answers to Zeng-Hu. Axiori, from Tresja’s submerged area. 4'8". ~84? years old, two degrees, one in international culture (Human culture track, because I don't know anything about any others lemao) and one in medicine. Seeking a holistic understanding of all organic life, intending to start outside the Federation and move inward over decades. SCS of 6.4~~~ish?, limited by her age. She’s a model citizen, mostly. QaQ has interacted with humans enough in her education that she’s, firstly, taken on a pronoun, but also put together a means of expression that lets her overcome the firm hands-behind-their-back straight-postured mastermind image that most humans have of the species. She speaks with heavy use of emphasis, pitch, and volume, her body language blurs the line with dance, and she likes to throw around nicknames and weird unconventional slang. She’s probably gonna call Aelia “the baroness,” or something. She calls most humans sparks. What do you like about this character? Another new job and personality archetype to try out, and a new species, but the mechanics don’t seem particularly significant seeing as doing anything with the Srom is a crime. I think there’s a lot that can be done with an 80-year-old that acts like, and by her nation’s conventions is, basically a child. How would you rate your role-playing ability? Always developing? I’d like to emote more. Skrell, and QaQ particularly, having unique means of expression might push me to do it. Notes: Imagine: your surgeon is almost an entire foot shorter than you, calls red-alert situations "riptides" for some reason, dances while she talks, and is a squid. Now imagine that that's not a surgeon, that's your CMO. Someday.