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DeezyJ - "HoP" stands for Head of Paingiving


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BYOND Key: EvilBrage

Player Byond Key: DeezyJ

Reason for complaint: During a traitor round, I attempted to rescue a fellow traitor captured by the security force in the escape wing, before the shuttle arrived. Deezy's head of personnel - who was dragging the prisoner along at that point - wouldn't be much of a problem to whisk around and snatch the prisoner from with the help of a smoke grenade, or so I thought. What happened in reality was that I popped the smoke grenade on top of myself and put on my thermals so I could both conceal myself and see where everyone was, but Deezy elected to charge off in the other direction, prisoner in tow.


Okay.


I decide to play it off like I don't know what happened. I run away from the smoke and say "gee whiz" and start typing other things to give everyone reason to doubt I was the culprit of the smoke bomb, strange as that may be - and I didn't really expect anyone to believe it. But what does Deezy do? Fires a barrage of lethal lasers at my motionless mob - and continues to do so even when I move out of the way. Security decides to join in the hunt and fire their tasers, then pacify my husked corpse in death with handcuffs (specifically, Victor Kaipov), then throw me into the shuttle brig like it was all in a day's work.


What the fuck?


Since when did a nonlethal action warrant a lethal response without any form of hesitation over killing another person who hadn't even brandished a weapon? Since when did the head of personnel take over the traitor-killing business that originally belonged to security? And why did security arrest a lifeless corpse? I didn't expect my harebrained scheme to work, but god damn I didn't expect to get killed within two seconds of popping the smoke grenade.



Approximate Date/Time: Approx. 5am EST 2-20-15

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Your behaviour was terrible, you burned her head with a zippo lighter then peppersprayed her?(not sure if it was you, it doesn't show up in logs) then a huge cloud of smoke come out from your direction and you ran towards me. That's clear. I dont judje if it was dick'ish or not, but, we were on code blue and under a possible bomb threat directly in escape wing if you don't know, so my character decided you are a source of threat and shoot you several times, she had no intention to kill you, however, and tried to patch you up after this.

Priorities were obvious: crew safety or one man acting like a terrorist. This is not flower-lady Hice, Newton had enough of sick bastards in her life.

I personally think your actions more looked like end-round grief, why are you even offended -is a mystery for me.

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And yet, you have threatened me all over OOC you will e-sword me next time, then you should now.

I, unlike you, perfectly understand that dying on ss13 is just as much a part of learning to play the game as not dying, and if you aren't quite able to handle that it's probably not a game to recommend.

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I've noticed that Brage has a tendency to make Character/Player complaints almost exclusively when an instance of antagging goes horridly wrong for him. The rest of you may not see anything from this, but I see it as an unwillingness to be sportsmanlike, no matter what happens. The last time Brage made a complaint, he fumed in OOC about it as well prior to writing it up on the forums.

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Your behaviour was terrible, you burned her head with a zippo lighter then peppersprayed her?(not sure if it was you, it doesn't show up in logs) then a huge cloud of smoke come out from your direction and you ran towards me.


And yet, you have threatened me all over OOC you will e-sword me next time, then you should now.

I, unlike you, perfectly understand that dying on ss13 is just as much a part of learning to play the game as not dying, and if you aren't quite able to handle that it's probably not a game to recommend.

 

You're taking quite a few things out of context. First of all, she had a cigarette on her face that was unlit - targetting the mouth with a lighter lights the cigarette for them. Apparently it was already lit, however, ergo my "LOOC: Whoops" statement. I didn't even have pepperspray, and the officer that waltzed up to her the second before the pepper spraying began should've told you exactly who was responsible for that little bit. Second, you'd already captured the "individual in a red hardsuit" that was solely blamed for the bomb threats - code blue was only still in effect because no one had gone back to the office to switch it back. You continued to fire on me after I had stopped to type, entered a phrase, and then retreated to the emergency shuttle to avoid the gunfire without reciprocating in any sort of way. The appropriate response would have been a nonlethal one; you'd been firing long enough (and Jaylor was far enough away) to the point where you could have easily switched to a nonlethal firing mode. You did not. I tried to ascertain whether what you did was just because you were being jumpy because hey, that happens to everyone, especially during the late hours. The attitude I got back about "terrible behavior" and "stupidity" led me to believe you did this on purpose.


My e-sword comment was used in comparison - if you're going to kill me without even stopping to aim the gun and say something vaguely normal like "get on the ground," then why should I attempt a nonlethal method of saving a prisoner? The point I was getting at was that if we just all jumped to lethal methods of disposing of people the moment things are starting to go pear-shaped, there's no difference between our server and the next one except for a snobby bit of misplaced pretentiousness thinking we're above them in some way.


I've died plenty of times - antag or no. I'm fine with dying. Half of my deaths actually result from silly things like accidentally clicking the "force exterior door" on an airlock with burning plasma on the other side. Or jumping into a disposals bin to hide from someone, only to discover you can't leave them in a zero gravity situation. Frankly, the more hilarious the death, the more fun it is. What I'm not fine with is the head of personnel stepping in and doing security's job and killing me (or anyone else for that matter) in an exceedingly mundane way, then brushing it off by proclaiming "I am protecting the server from your stupidity" when I'd simply asked why you did that. I've also seen and filed enough complaints to know that very little ever really comes of them, which is why I am loathe to post here in the first place until people start crying for me to do it. Seems more like a "get it out of your system and get along" subforum.


Understand that it's 50 shades of infuriating to see someone do something that you know you'd be chastised for - and get away with it.


Edit: An amusing side-note, this is the 13337th post on this forum.

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I personally think your actions more looked like end-round grief, why are you even offended -is a mystery for me.

 

So, let me get this straight.

Accidently burning someone with a lighter once looks like end round grief.

Shooting someone to death on the spot moments later, isn't end round grief?

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