Deksers... Reform?

[DekserBecauseILostMyAccoun]

BYOND Key: Dekser
Total Ban Length: 3 days
Banning staff member's Key: MattAtlas
Reason of Ban: As an Engineer during a lowpop round, got involved in a bridge
firefight against the antag to help the Captain, later finished off said antag in captains office, this antag murdered two people and was heavily armed, your character should not have not gotten involved at all. This is a question of both validhunting and character believeability, this ban is applied by Mattatlas
Reason for Appeal:

I am writing this in regards to my ban on Aurora, I will be listing my issues and breaking down the reasons for my punishment. To be clear, my ban time has already been served, I am writing this to try and remove it from my records as it will stain my reputation.

Breakdown of what I did that round: I arrive on the station to be greeted by another Engineer telling me an officer has taken role of Captain and has killed all of security, I ask who it is and the Engineer says that is a Unathi. I check the manifest to see that it is Officer Szsk, my character and Szsk have a backround as fairly close friends so I decided to go and speak with Szsk. I arrive and he greets me, covered in blood in the captains voidsuit. We talk for a few moments when he threatens me, I leave to gear up and equip a voidsuit as a precaution. I return to find him in a battle with the Captain, I try to restrain him while the Captain shoots at him to no avail as he pushes me before I can get a strong enough grip. Eventually I start clawing him while he uses some sort of weapon with a shock against me. I back away for a few seconds, letting the Captain shoot him some more. They end up in the Captains office where Szsk tear gases the Captain, forcing them back outside. I grab the Captain and move them to a safer location before returning to fight Szsk, we end up in the Captains office where he corners me before collapsing, giving me time to grab a nearby axe on the floor. I say my final goodbyes to an old friend and finish him. I do concede, murder was not the best option and I should have tried restraining him instead.
 

Issue 1: "Validhunting." My main issue was the allegation that I was validhunting, what is validhunting? There is no clear definition on the internet and the server rules do not state what validhunting is. Obviously I do know what it is but my point remains, you cannot enforce a rule that does not exist, to clarify I am not implying you can or should vaildhunt, I was simply told I broke a rule which states "no valid hunting" when this rule does not exist. In my eyes validhunting would be going out of your way to stop the antag without even roleplaying and just "winning." Perhaps to you it means something else. My issue with this accusation is that, I had no intention of validhunting which in this situation would be charging Szsk (the antag) and trying to kill them without reason, instead I tried to speak with them before resorting to violence in order to assist the Captain.

Issue 2: Failed Character Believability, this is a gray area, on one hand you have no idea what my character is like and what their intentions would be during a crisis such as the round. On the other hand I cannot create a character that violates server rules for example: ignores pain, validhunts and sets the supermatter as a cargo technician. My issue with this is that, obviously, I believe I built my character completely within the rules and that everything I did that round was not against Character Believability. I will admit in some areas of that round I heavily stretched what was allowed and I really shouldn't have.

Issue 3: General attitude, I mean this in the most respectable way possible, saying "I understand where you're coming from" is not connecting with the player or helping at all, in that bwoink I would say that Matt ignores my arguments or thinks that they are incorrect and gives no explanation as to why, gives an invalid explanation or just adds more "rule breaks" onto a pile. I do not remember everything that was said however in my ban note "As an Engineer during a lowpop round, got involved in a bridge firefight against the antag to help the Captain, later finished off said antag in captains office, this antag murdered two people and was heavily armed, your character should not have not gotten involved at all. This is a question of both validhunting and character believeability, this ban is applied by Mattatlas" it states I was banned for validhunting and character believeability so that is what I have been trying to dismiss during this appeal.

 

Summary: Basically, I done messed up but not that bad. I made a character that doesn't necessarily violate server rules but definitely scrapes close. I spoke to the Antag on discord and they said they were fine with how it ended, so if I am correct on all of my arguments, the only rule break was minor failed character believability which definitely is not ban worthy. I did not validhunt and did not directly ruin the round for anyone I'm pretty sure. I plan on changing up my playstyle as Unathi, not being so quick to charge into combat and will definitely think a whole lot more before acting. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk, plz aprove and good night.

Edited April 22, 2021 by DekserBecauseILostMyAccoun

[MattAtlas]

The ban expired and punishments are not removed unless they are found to be wrong. Appeals are not the place to contest a ruling; you're looking for a staff complaint here.