OmegaTracing's staff complaint - MattAtlas

[omegaTracing]

BYOND Key: OmegaTracing
Staff BYOND Key: MattAtlas
Game ID: Unknown, event happened almost a month ago
Reason for complaint: I believe that my punishment (permanent ban) was too great for my transgression, because i promised not to repeat said behavior and was still punished with the greatest punishment of its kind, and hope that it is reconsidered.
Evidence/logs/etc:
Additional remarks: Aside from feeling like this is too extreme for the situation, I believe it was unreasonable, I understand I have a tainted record, but it is not because of situations like this. My previous punishments were completely understandable, but I feel obligated to bring this up here as I feel I have been unjustly treated by Matt. Re-reading this, it could be interpreted that my answers do not seem to understand the situation, but in reality, i attempted to not answer in a manner it would show me "worried" as to assure that i would not contradict the request to stop this behavior. Sadly, I was banned before i could properly apologize, and I understand the severity.

But the complaint here is for how Matt treated this issue, I believe they were aggressive here, and acted unprofessionally, if I was told "this is not appropiate, please stop", the interaction would have reached a much more productive path, but the way Matt treated me here made me feel hurt and hopeless, especially with how my character had developed over time with the rest of the crew, it is an abrupt end that has affected me to a personal level. I hope I am given a chance for dialogue about this topic. 

[MattAtlas]

This punishment is most definitely appropriate considering you were already permabanned once and kept racking up notes. Additionally, I don't buy that you were "sounding worried" in that complaint - you genuinely didn't think what you did was that bad. You still show it in this complaint saying that commenting on a stranger's character in deadchat by saying they're hot is "not that bad". At that point in time we were past simply noting or warning you because you'd been racking notes, warnings and bans up since you joined the server.

 

[Peppermint]

To be clear, are you saying the ban was unwarranted, or do you have an issue with how the ticket was handled, or both?

[omegaTracing]

Just now, Peppermint said:

To be clear, are you saying the ban was unwarranted, or do you have an issue with how the ticket was handled, or both?

Both, but the current topic is the latter. Matt approached me in an aggressive manner, and in a way that it left me feeling shamed. I understand what I said was out of the blue, and that if the player was present, I would not have said it, which by common decency, makes it something I should not have said anyways. Still, I feel Matt treated this impatiently and brashly, leaving no possibility of me learning from my mistake. I have not acted out of ill will, and my bans have been caused by different things that were not repeated, so, great mistakes caused by me learning the game's customs, since this was the first ss13 server I played on. And even now it feels Matt thinks of me as an antagonizer, someone who purposely acts against the administration team, and it troubles me greatly, making me afraid to speak out on this to the point that I spent so long building up the courage to make a complaint.

All i ask is that the method and punishment are discussed, which would also include the way Matt decides the severity of his bans. I love this server, and I only wish for it to grow, thank you for your time reading my complaint.

[omegaTracing]

If i can help in any way with this staff complaint, i can be reached through discord, I truly hope there can be a productive and benefitial conclusion to this staff complaint

[Peppermint]

@Yonnimer and I will be taking this.

Before I start digging into the complaint itself, why is it you've been approaching people in an attempt to 'rile them up' in regards to Aurora? Your words, specifically.

[omegaTracing]

Because I feel ignored. I feel like someone in the administrator team is dishing out bans in a manner that seems unjust and heavy handed. I am just.... Sad, and not only that, upset. I feel like I'm being seen as "yet another whining banned person" when my issue is that the way my ahelp was treated, and how i can be permanently banned for just... acting in the same way i do when i'm doing something casual, really, really scares me and catches me by surprise.

And it's not unwarranted, everyone whom i've spoken to has agreed that the administrative team has behaved in a manner that is unbecoming or illogical, and no, not just people who have been banned or otherwise punished.

I find it unjust, uncaring, and as much as i hate to use this word that's been used so much, it feels biased, as if the team had a personal gripe about my character and just wanted to get rid of it.

And the common denominator as well? People didn't speak out on fear of being banned for it. It is crucial for a community to voice their concerns so that the leadership does not stray from its goal, and that is not happening, people are afraid to speak out about the team's decisions because they are afraid of being punished for it. And for a videogame community? It's a sad prospect... It makes me sad that my friends are afraid of losing the game they love, just how i lost mine for... a rather silly reason.

My goal was not to incite a revolution, maybe a letter, signed by members who agreed that there needed to be change. But they're afraid to even do that.


It was a heat of the moment thing, the "rile up" wording, as i calmed down, my train of thought became more logical. I just hope this can come to a solid conclusion.

If either of you wishes to contact me, my discord is omegaTracing#4873 

Thank you for picking this up again, and have a good afternoon.

[Peppermint]

I suppose I'm not understanding what your issue here was to the point you dm'd multiple people, including ex-staff, to get their thoughts on something that had nothing to do with them. I don't have any reason to believe you that it was just an unfortunate turn of phrase when multiple people have come forward and said that they were approached by you, which suggests there are a whole bunch more who haven't said anything. This wasn't just being upset in a friend's dms - this was going out of your way to cause issues and encourage others to get involved.

Secondly ,you were weird to someone's character. That is not negotiable. You even admit above that you would never say that to the person themselves, but it is somehow okay to do so as a peanut gallery behind their back? It wasn't okay, and it is your responsibility not to go for childish, schoolyard humour around other people you don't know. It is not on anyone else to keep telling you what you're doing is strange and not acceptable. It is not our job as server staff to tell you what is and is not socially acceptable to do to other people at this point, and I'm not sure how to explain to you that calling people's characters hot in deadchat isn't okay. You wouldn't do that to a stranger on the street, so why is it okay here? You have been given far too many chances for me to buy any of these apologetic, 'I didn't know, I didn't mean to' spiel - you are out of the benefits of the doubt.

You have one warning and 3 other notes on file for doing childish and creepy stuff. This isn't a one time thing.

As for the discord perma - if it was on its own, I would agree it'd be a bit much and not a ban. People mess up sometimes. But with everything else and between how you have been told multiple times to reign it in and stop crossing the line with people, I see why matt placed it. And given  I see no way in which your other perma is going to be appealable, and the riling people up, there seems to be no issue with it staying.

I don't think you're a creep intentionally, nor maliciously. But I do think you have had too many chances to correct the way you do with other people and it is of both of our opinion that you staying gone is for the best.

Going to go ahead and archive this one.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Peppermint