Staff Complaint - youjustgotowened

[ElizabethDame]

 

BYOND Key: ElizabethDame/FlyBrokenWings

Staff BYOND Key: youjustgotowened

Game ID: cwu-dlSQ - Probably

Reason for complaint: I personally believe the 7-day ban was a bit too harsh or at least, that it should've been just a plain whitelist strip.

I won't refute that my actions that round weren't questionable. I was semi-afk before the fighting started, in the bar. Barely responding to people until I saw the princess character pulled past the bar counter and the shutters closed. Not being to follow, I walked into the dining hall, saw the fighting and someone being attacked and then joined in, even if only momentarily before leaving to run off. When I probably shouldn't have even moved into the dining hall in the first place, or at least, not stayed there as long as I did using the integrated drill to smack the antag even in defence of another.

That probably speaks to my inability to play a synthetic to the degree the whitelist wants. Though, still, I don't think I really did anything worthy of a seven-day ban when most of the more recent warnings directed at the character weren't for reasons that affected the given rounds too poorly.

I only recently came to the server and I'm probably coming at it the wrong way, due to me remembering the constrictions of the setting and server to be looser than they are with what you can do.

Evidence/logs/etc: N/A

Additional remarks: N/A

[Owen]

Hi. I do not have a whole lot to add here beyond reiterating that this has been a persistent issue with your play in recent weeks. I do not have the power to unilaterally strip your Synthetic WL, that is something which is left to the decision of the Synthetic WL Team. I will just explain the series of events from my point-of-view.

The reason you were only given a 7-day ban, and say, not a permanent ban was due to the fact that I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt here and follow a reasonable path of escalation. You were spoken to no less than five times in recent weeks about your behavior as Oro, who I will note, is a Burzsiean IPC and inherently comes with greater expectations. Less than one full day before I gave you this ban, you were spoken to by staff and given an official lore warning against your Synthetic WL. This warning was focused on your lack of self-preservation and general believability concerns with your play.

In the ticket leading up to your ban, I was not provided with really any explanation or justification for your actions. You were being directed elsewhere by the Executive Officer which you claim you did not hear. Assuming this is accurate, and that you did not hear the XO evacuating people, this is still a wholly unreasonable response from you as the player. What occurs is fairly simple. You proceed into the fighting with your integrated mining drill and begin attacking mercenaries who were already engaged in an extremely violent firefight with security and other crew who were caught in the crossfire. Not only did you involve yourself in the fighting, which you readily admitted--you also claimed that you were simply passing through the dining hall to escape into the hallway. Reviewing the logs after the fact, this simply is being misrepresented on your part. I will leave it to the other staff members who handle this complaint to provide the specific logs should they so desire, but they very clearly demonstrate that you entered the dining room. You began attacking the mercenaries. You received damage. You then pulled back from the dining room and healed yourself at least seven times with Nanopaste. You re-enter the dining room. You continue to fight with the mercenaries.

Now, I was not aware of these specifics at the time that I placed your 7-day ban. With this new information, I not only think that the week ban is entirely justified, but would have likely escalated this to a permanent ban if I were aware you were misrepresenting what occurred at the time.

I will now address your final claim: 

5 hours ago, ElizabethDame said:

I only recently came to the server and I'm probably coming at it the wrong way, due to me remembering the constrictions of the setting and server to be looser than they are with what you can do.

You have come and gone from the server over the years, this is not a mark against you. Players come and go all the time, returning after long periods of absence. This is true, yet, our expectations toward players have not fundamentally changed in between your bouts of activity here. You are a whitelisted player, you have applied and have been accepted to play a specific species and with that comes a greater degree of responsibility and of scrutiny. I can accept that you initially misremembered the degree to which we hold our players accountable for their actions, but I do not find any value in that excuse at this point. As I initially stated, this is not the first time you were spoken to about self-preservation and getting yourself involved in fighting you otherwise should not have. This is not the second, or even the third time. No, you have been approached by a staff member regarding this same issue no less than five times before I placed this ban. There is a point where we must draw the line between general unfamiliarity and willful ignorance. Ideally, one of the many times you were spoken to before this escalation would have set you on the path to correct this behavior, but unfortunately, it has not happened so far. 

I am glad to see that you are taking this seriously, and hope to see positive changes upon your return when the ban expires. That will be all for my responses here unless the handling staff members have any further questions. 

Edited November 3 by Owen
Correct regarding specific numbers with the Nanopaste

[Garnascus]

Week ban did seem harsh at first glance but i am unfortunately going to need to side with @Owen on this one. We have no choice but to escalate in punishments when a particular player continues to break rules. I am sorry to say but i do not see any reason to alter the ban or expunge it from your ckey.