NerdyVampire Posted May 28, 2025 Posted May 28, 2025 The visitor ghost role is a role that sometimes pops up, that tells you that you are visiting the Horizon for any reason, and that they don't have documents on you. That's just.. bland honestly, and the text doesn't really encourage doing anything dramatic with it. Imagine instead a role, where you get the text: "You are aboard the SCCV Horizon, but they don't know it yet. You might have stowed away by mistake (getting lost on a tour, falling SSD, boarded the wrong shuttle and not being properly checked...) or you might have intentionally boarded to escape trouble - for example a criminal background, Idris collectors or some otherwise unavoidable calamity.) Regardless, you are here now. You should either try to stay hidden and scrounge what food and drink you can, or make yourself known and hope the crew will accept you - at least for the foreseeable future. This is NOT an antagonist role, but you are allowed to concoct a criminal background to explain your presence - and deal with the consequences believably." Honestly I think this would make the role more interesting for all parties. 4
Fyni Posted May 29, 2025 Posted May 29, 2025 I don't think visitor needs to be replaced - it can be fun in itself - but I think having stowaway be a semi rare ghost role would be fun. 1
NerdyVampire Posted May 30, 2025 Author Posted May 30, 2025 12 hours ago, Fyni said: I don't think visitor needs to be replaced - it can be fun in itself - but I think having stowaway be a semi rare ghost role would be fun. My issue is that the difference between visitor and passenger is minimal, only the absence of records and absence on the crew manifest. Doesn't really seem like enough to warrant a ghost role, unless the ghost role gets something special to it.
Fyni Posted May 30, 2025 Posted May 30, 2025 6 hours ago, NerdyVampire said: My issue is that the difference between visitor and passenger is minimal, only the absence of records and absence on the crew manifest. Doesn't really seem like enough to warrant a ghost role, unless the ghost role gets something special to it. Perhaps true - but I don't think removing it and adding stowaway should be in the same discussion.
Arbiter_Ambrose Posted May 30, 2025 Posted May 30, 2025 Hm, as a person who really likes the idea of a stowaway role, I think that the visitor role could instead come with a few more additions to make it unique, rather than outright simply removing it, we could give the visitor some wealth, perhaps documents to justify their existence, a full host of things.
DatSamTho Posted June 6, 2025 Posted June 6, 2025 I've always liked the idea of a stowaway ghostrole, and I'm honestly surprised there isn't one. This would be really good addition, in my opinion. And while I don't really care as much about the visitor role, I pretty much agree that it's made almost completely redundant by the existence of the Passenger role.
Sniblet Posted June 7, 2025 Posted June 7, 2025 If we care so much about Visitor (why?) then we can just modify it so it can also be a Stowaway, depending on the player.
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