Killerhurtz Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 I've been looking at the list of chemicals, and I find that some of them don't make sense. And so this thread is an attempt at rectifying the recipes of chemicals/medications to make more sense or to balance them out, depending. -Kelotane: 2 parts Silicon, 2 parts Carbon, 1 part Iron, 1 part Space Lube. Reasoning: The main ways to heal burns are two-ways: one, move the heat away and two, keep the wound hydrated. Silicon and carbon are half-decent at moving heat - but iron would be better. And space lube would prevent the blood from drying too much. -Hyperzine: 1 part Sugar, 1 part Phosphorous, 1 part Sulphur, 1 part Potassium/1 part Inaprovaline Reasoning: Hyperzine is all good for the muscles, but the role of nerves in motion I find is understated. Potassium would avoid the depletion of the potassium channels. That, or if instead of Potassium it's Inaprovaline, it would explain how the heart can stand it. -Spaceacillin: 1 part Cryptobiolin, 1 part Inaprovaline, 5 parts Carbon, 10 parts Hydrogen, 5 parts Plasma (catalyst) > 1 Spaceacillin, 5 Plasma Reasoning: The wiki states that it's a theta-lactam antibiotic. Theta-lactams currently don't exist, but following the naming convention, a theta-lactam would be a 10-atom-ring lactam. It's not a stretch to think that the cryptobiolin and inaprovaline would bind to one another, but we're still missing that theta-lactam element. So this modification of a recipe aims to fix two things: first, how simple it is to obtain spaceacillin versus how powerful it is, and second (with the plasma catalyst) explain a little why it would be so universal. -Tricordrazine: 1 part Inaprovaline, 1 part Dylovene, 1 part copper Reasoning: Honestly, it's just so that there's a valid reason why it heals burns. -Explosion: 1 part Water, 1 part Potassium OR 2 parts Sodium Reasoning: Sodium is just a lighter alkali metal -Fire: 1 part Water, 2 parts Lithium Reasoning: Lithium is the mildest alkali metal and more likely to cause a small fire. Thoughts?
MagnificentMelkior Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Sodium should make a weaker explosion if it makes one. I like lithium making a fire too, and your logic is well considered on the other ones.
Xelnagahunter Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 I wish I had a small percentage of your intellect, or that of many of our other players. SO many of you can figure this stuff out and know so much that I cringe to think I can try tackling college.
MagnificentMelkior Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 I wish I had a small percentage of your intellect, or that of many of our other players. SO many of you can figure this stuff out and know so much that I cringe to think I can try tackling college. Take AP Chemistry, it will change your life.
Xelnagahunter Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Are AP classes a thing in college? And aren't they advanced classes? Why would I do that to myself?
Lady_of_Ravens Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 -Kelotane: 2 parts Silicon, 2 parts Carbon, 1 part Iron, 1 part Space Lube. Reasoning: The main ways to heal burns are two-ways: one, move the heat away and two, keep the wound hydrated. Silicon and carbon are half-decent at moving heat - but iron would be better. And space lube would prevent the blood from drying too much. Â "Your blood's getting dry, we're pumping in some lubricant." Â -Hyperzine: 1 part Sugar, 1 part Phosphorous, 1 part Sulphur, 1 part Potassium/1 part Inaprovaline Reasoning: Hyperzine is all good for the muscles, but the role of nerves in motion I find is understated. Potassium would avoid the depletion of the potassium channels. That, or if instead of Potassium it's Inaprovaline, it would explain how the heart can stand it. Â So Hyperzine isn't basically space meth? Cool. Â -Spaceacillin: 1 part Cryptobiolin, 1 part Inaprovaline, 5 parts Carbon, 10 parts Hydrogen, 5 parts Plasma (catalyst) > 1 Spaceacillin, 5 Plasma Reasoning: The wiki states that it's a theta-lactam antibiotic. Theta-lactams currently don't exist, but following the naming convention, a theta-lactam would be a 10-atom-ring lactam. It's not a stretch to think that the cryptobiolin and inaprovaline would bind to one another, but we're still missing that theta-lactam element. So this modification of a recipe aims to fix two things: first, how simple it is to obtain spaceacillin versus how powerful it is, and second (with the plasma catalyst) explain a little why it would be so universal. Â I'm conflicted on this. Because you're right, 'cillin is craaaaazy effective. On the other hand it's also vital to the operation of a clean, efficient medbay... and even more vital to the operation of a messy, disease-ridden medbay. Â -Tricordrazine: 1 part Inaprovaline, 1 part Dylovene, 1 part copper Reasoning: Honestly, it's just so that there's a valid reason why it heals burns. Â This represents a serious reduction to the availability of tricord. Because dylovene and inaprovaline are readily available outside the chemlab any doctor can mix up their own in a beaker, syringe, or even (my favorite) inside a patient with the sleeper. This is not, however, necessarily a bad thing as we do have something of a craaaazy excess of miracle drugs. It might even make sense to replace copper with kelotane (which is very easy to make anyway).
Conservatron Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Are AP classes a thing in college? And aren't they advanced classes? Why would I do that to myself? AP chemistry in hs is basically freshman chemistry in college.. theoretically but really, chemistry isn't that difficult once you know the rules. Once the basics are there everything just falls into place and all of a sudden organic and inorganic chemistry isn't that difficult to understand.
Killerhurtz Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 Also, Xelnaga - a little curiosity goes a long way. I didn't know what a lactam was before making this threat :3 But yeah - I'm happy people mostly agree. @Lady_of_Ravens: the reason why I didn't use Kelotane is that tricordrazine is supposed to be a drug of it's own, not just a cocktail, as far as I can tell. But as far as the availability of tricord and spaceacillin goes - my thoughts are twofold: first, every hopital has a pharmacology department and cannot operate without it, so it makes sense. Second, it's always possible to have less-effective but more available versions of drugs. But yeah - I went very moderate on this because I expected a much, MUCH worse reception. What do you guys say to expanding that list?
Lady_of_Ravens Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 As far as tricord goes, I'm all for making it a little scarcer simply because there are so many other alternatives. But spaceacillin is necessary not just for treating random viruses, but also for the rather common infections that people get. So, the logical thing to do here is split off a separate drug to be a high-power plasma-using antiviral agent and let 'cillin be purely for bacterial effects.
Killerhurtz Posted November 12, 2015 Author Posted November 12, 2015 Lore-wise, I'd go the other way around (having spaceacillin be the be-all-end-all) and having another, more simple antibiotic (like amoxicillin, 3 parts Carbon, 3 parts Hydrogen, 1 part Nitrogen 1 part Oxygen, or benzylpeniciline (2 parts Carbon, 2 parts Hydrogen, 1 part Oxygen, 1 part Nitrogen, 0.1 part Sulphur). Because as it stands, spaceacillin is described as being a highly effective and highly complex molecule.
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