Ganondwarf Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 So, the message I received was: "Reason: Detonating pepperspray grenades at the end of the round and then logging afterward.." Logging? Logging what? I didn't log-off. My character was suffering from brain damage ever since he got cloned. As a RP server, sometimes you receive the message: "The pain is excruciating!" As you may know, pain - specially in the brain - can drive people insane. My character had a bad temper, that's a fact. And the medbay simply "slacked off and denied treatment" to him, as he thought. (Actually it took the whole round and he didn't receive any treatment for his concussion.) So he started vandalizing medbay, breaking outside windows and such. Nothing harmful. At the end of the round, he just throwed pepper-nades inside the shuttle in an act of insanity. IT WAS NOT GRIEF ON PLAYERS. IT WAS NOT HARMFUL FOR CHARACTERS. IT WAS JUST AN ACT OF INSANITY. IT WAS PURELY ROLEPLAY. So I want to understand this ban, alright? It was handled by Scheveningen. Waiting for answers.
Scheveningen Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Please use the format: https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=15 You threw about two or three pepperspray grenades onto the emergency shuttle at the end of the round. As soon as you were OOC-paralyzed/slept by another admin for doing so, you logged off immediately. As per our rules on EOR conflict, it states: Regarding End of Round Grief: ◦Attacking people on Central Command, the escape shuttle, the escape pods, or the escape pod ship, without legitimate roleplay and IC reason is not allowed. If you have questions about this clause, please contact a member of staff via adminhelp! ◦Security is allowed to conduct legitimate arrests during End of Round procedures. This includes performing arrests on the escape shuttle. ◦Conflict is permitted to continue elsewhere on the station, and in the escape-arm/shuttle if there's prior roleplay involved. ◦If at the end of round a member of staff requests that all attacks be stopped, please do so. Our goal at the end of each round is to tidy up any staff business as soon as possible, so the round may restart, and being flooded with attack-logs will make this more difficult, thus creating longer delays. In the case of throwing grenades onto the shuttle, you overstepped your bounds quite. There was no good reason (not even insanity at this point) to be throwing pepperspray grenades onto the shuttle at the end of the round. It is quite literally griefy as pepperspray is incredibly painful to characters that get caught in the cloud and it's really not a good way to be approaching conflict. It might've been mildly escalated but no one knew of your plans to pepperspray gas bomb the emergency shuttle. If it wasn't done on the shuttle it would've been dealt with perhaps ICly, but the shuttle is generally off-limits for an antagonist and especially so for a non-antagonist, even if you have a concussion it's probably a bigger lapse in judgement than what a concussion could bring if you just gas bomb the shuttle and make your co-workers suffer. You logged off immediately after you got winded by another admin which led us to assume you did that for malicious reasons. I'm willing to lift the ban early if you can recite exactly what you did wrong here, though.
Ganondwarf Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 I told you: I didn't logged off. That's just an excuse. I really like that server and I NEVER did anything out of Role-Play. I've been admin-pm'ed sometimes, but NEVER to be accused of griefing or something. I threw TWO pepper-grenades and then my characters has gone unconscious (it was not me, he was indeed getting continuously unconscious because of the brain damage, it's your own damn coding/system's fault!). I saw my character being dragged by someone wearing a clown-mask and everything. I'm telling you, I didn't log-off. And I'm not asking to be unbanned. I'm just trying to understand your reasons. Which are not reasonable. lol
Ganondwarf Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 As the message says: "to try to resolve this matter". I AM trying to resolve this matter. But you're accusing me of something I didn't do. I don't grief. I play by the rules. lol
Scheveningen Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 The admin who froze you and myself both made the concerted effort to try and message you. We could not message you, and that was because you were logged out of the client. There is next to no reason other than that, as to why we couldn't message you. I threw TWO pepper-grenades and then my characters has gone unconscious (it was not me, he was indeed getting continuously unconscious because of the brain damage, it's your own damn coding/system's fault!). You went unconscious because an admin froze you for priming three of the pepperspray grenades on the shuttle. It wasn't the brain damage, I promise you.
Ganondwarf Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 I did NOT logged off. I was logged in all the time. Until I got banned. I didn't receive any message from you guys. lol
Ganondwarf Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 Julian Caesar says, "I hope you guys are buckled."Asimo 's lens flashes. Rebecca Morrison yells, "Ouch!" Rob Oster unbuckled themselves! Echo folds his arms, whirring. Phoebe Essel says, "If you throw a fucking flashbang." Asimo 's lens shuts down slowly, its processor obviously overloaded. Julian Caesar says, "Enjoy the trip, suckers." You prime the tear gas grenade! Julian Caesar has thrown the tear gas grenade. Keagan Powell asks, "Do unbuckled people splat against the wall?" You prime the tear gas grenade! Julian Caesar has thrown the tear gas grenade. ...You hear something about...run ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You almost hear someone talking... ...You almost hear someone talking... Vira Bolivar: whyyyy ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... James Huff: Fucking cuck ...You almost hear someone talking... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You almost hear someone talking... ...You almost hear someone talking... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... It becomes hard to see for some reason. ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You almost hear someone talking... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... Nikov: This perfectly ends this shitty round. ...You almost hear someone talking... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You almost hear someone talking... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You hear something about...well ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You almost hear someone talking... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You almost hear someone talking... Rob Oster: oh wait ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ...You almost hear someone talking... Rob Oster: is he winded? ... You can almost hear someone talking ... It becomes hard to see for some reason. ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... Central Command Update Meteor Alert A meteor shower is approaching the station, estimated contact in three minutes. Crew are recommended to stay away from the outer areas of the station. ... You can almost hear someone talking ... Echo: yes James Huff: Yup Dakota Lloyd: I think so yeah Rob Oster: fugg ...You almost hear someone talking... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... Rob Oster: i was off screen ... You can almost hear someone talking ... ... You can almost hear someone talking ... Sudden acceleration presses you into your chair! A round of Ai malfunction has ended! You missed the crew transfer after the events on NSS Exodus as Julian Caesar. A.D.A. (Played by: )'s laws when it was deactivated were: 0. ERROR ER0RR $R0RRO$!R41.%%!!(%$^^__+ @#F0E4'ALL LAWS OVERRIDDEN#*?&110010 1. Safeguard: Protect your assigned space station from damage to the best of your abilities. 2. Serve: Serve NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role. 3. Protect: Protect NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role. 4. Preserve: Do not allow unauthorized personnel to tamper with your equipment. The AI's loyal minions were: M.S.U. (Played by: Kreegs), Asimo (Played by: @Sleepy Wolf) survived as an AI-less borg! Its laws were: 1. Safeguard: Protect your assigned space station from damage to the best of your abilities. 2. Serve: Serve NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role. 3. Protect: Protect NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role. 4. Preserve: Do not allow unauthorized personnel to tamper with your equipment. There was 1 industrious maintenance drone at the end of this round. ...You hear something about...Help ... You can almost hear someone talking ... The Rampant AI was: A.D.A. (xerothereaper) as an AI (died) ... You can almost hear someone talking ... You have been banned by scheveningen. Reason: Detonating pepperspray grenades at the end of the round and then logging afterward.. This is a temporary ban, it will be removed in 10800 minutes. To try to resolve this matter head to https://aurorastation.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=38 Connection died. Here is the log from the point where I threw the pepper-grenades until I got banned. I didn't log off.
Ganondwarf Posted June 7, 2017 Author Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Like I said: I really like the server. I returned to SS13 a few days ago, after a couple of years away, and I met Aurorastation. Ever since, I've been played by your rules all the time. I roleplay by two characters: Ethan Caesar and Julian Caesar; good cop and bad cop, respectively. Ethan is a Cadet with a kind attitude and Julian has a bad temper. What saddened me here wasn't the ban. It was the reason. You guys are accusing me of logging off and I'm not a griefing coward. Never was, never will be. But then, a moderator decided to go trigger-happy on me and then, ban hammer. I'm really sad by this. lol Edited June 7, 2017 by Guest
Scheveningen Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Alright, I believe you. The ban has been lifted. 2 tips, if you would please. 1.) Please do not blow up on us for a mistake I made. 2.) Please do not harass me or other users over the BYOND pager over your appeal. We will get around to it whenever possible, within 24 hours of a response.
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