LiliumArgentium

I honestly don't think I should post here, but I'd just like to clarify that I did in fact make up with [mention]Theplahunter[/mention] in voice chat. I really don't hold a grudge long, and am mostly over the "harassment", which though he DID go too far, I will admit I probably did overreact, and bear no ill will. That's pretty well all I can add at my current state of tired.

I feel like raiders would be straight fucked, but if mercs weren't RIGHT next to the station, I doubt that they'd have many issues. Besides, the chasing them around from what I've heard is the most annoying thing ever. Edit: I am +1ing this for reference.

[mention]Sharp[/mention] I'd just like to point out, aside from my little paragraph piece I really wanted nothing to do with this complaint, nor did I care whether it was made or not, but I was kind of dragged in against my will. Anyway, I'm more here to clarify, "Drunk Lilium" I guess it's being called now, is not a voluntary thing and I usually forget what I say while in this level of tired which usually leads to issues, as I don't know if I actually did something or not. It also means I am not consciously aware of what I'm doing. I don't know why it happens and it is most certainly a problem. [mention]Eve[/mention] Also, if you have issues with my character, that's all well and good, but again, this is not about me, (or it's not supposed to be) so if you have issues, either talk to me directly or make a character complaint please, because honestly this is not the place to air grievances about my character, which by the way, I am not as open about her backstory with as you say I am, I am in fact very quiet about it. The only way you'd know is if you read the exploitables, which I made in the interest of giving antags some interaction if they needed, and should not be taken as 100% canon. And you know, him reading the exploitables in a mocking tone does seem like legitimate grounds for someone already fed up with them, to be even more fed up. Despite your stance seeming to be on the "moral high-ground" you have seen very limited interaction between Soviet and I OOC and should honestly not put your two cents in without knowing the full story (though that's my opinion and despite the blunt wording I mean no offense). So anyway, please kindly leave me out of this as stated prior, as I wanted nothing to do with it really in the beginning and my original posting was after being pushed to for about a half hour by about four or five people who I'll leave nameless, because I'm not annoyed at them for it, and don't want them in shit. And again, sorry for being passive-aggressive if I came off as such, I just want these things known.

I was told about this, and I'm hesitant to continue because I don't want to be an asshole, cause I know it's gonna be that way, but here I am anyway. So, I have a bit of a history with Soviet or Plahunter or whatever you want to call him which Hunter kind of implied a little bit earlier. I can confirm he did in fact start reading my character records last night in VC and myself and several others told him to stop, I got a little more aggressive than I should have, I will admit, which wasn't cool. He then not long after made a comment about bar-tending characters being trash after I had explained why I pretty much have to (I have technical issues with combat and what not) which was again met with backlash by others. He claimed it wasn't directed at me, but that was debatable given the former topic. This was just the most recent of many incidents involving Soviet both on voice and OOC involving myself. Each time he claims "I'm just joking", but at this point that doesn't seem to be true.

Oh jeez, I noticed this late. This is a verdict I can accept. Though Konfliqt's first point is correct, though I will not argue about this. I'm rather emotionally screwed at the moment, and I am sorry that I did this on a bit of an emotional tangent, it was a shitty thing to do and I really do feel bad about being a dick. It was not right to take out my shit on Nursie.

Right. I would like to still keep my complaint about Nursie, because again, joking is all well and good, but I still don't see that as an excuse to be vicious while you joke. There are people who can back me up that after Nursie says something to me, (as she is an admin, to my knowledge friends with you, and seemingly generally respected, but not necessarily liked.), the people who are shitbags, kind of get shittier. The things Nursie say can range from actually sort of humorous to almost flat out mean as well. But people take her seriously. I'm not saying don't joke around or make the occasional comment, but for fuck's sake, why would you fuel the fire of something I have made clear in the past is an issue for me?

I did speak to them about this in an upset state about this where I was unable to name anyone, however, I do have two major offenders who come to mind. SovietCyanide (Plahunter here or something like that) and Ayerism (who I have been made to understand is sdwj or something, I believe they're a mod, I dunno.) And again, I'm not blaming her for their behaviour, but after you ripped on me OOC a few times, they did get worse. I just really want to make it abundantly clear to her that it is fine to joke, but seriously, be careful who it's in front of. At this point I'm not even really that upset anymore, I think my stupid, upset and frankly exhausted, 12 am brain just needed a target and I am sorry. That said, I believe I did give one of those names in PMs with the admin and nothing has come of it, so honestly, I did name at least ONE person to no results.

Schev, I understand that you are friends with Nursie, but have you seen some of the things people have said? I understand that what I said to Nursie was wrong and out of anger, I was very emotional and I can admit that I was wrong to do that, but she was literally the straw that broke the camel's back. So I do not this morning, after having slept off a full emotional breakdown, stand by that statement, it was out of the blue and uncool. However, I still stand-by this complaint. Those are from a month ago yes, but it illustrates the point that this is not just a recent issue, honestly if I made player complaints against all the people that have said shit we'd probably lose a couple who are already on hot water. That does not excuse Nursie's behavior though, regardless of how old they were. Whether she was insulting the character or not, one cannot simply insult the character if they know nothing about them other than out of context quotes and a few five minute interactions, you CANNOT possibly know a character that fast. And again, this isn't specifically about me. I have been told about Nursie doing this to MULTIPLE people. Just because you're a metabuddy with Nursie, doesn't mean you can 100% turn a blind eye to anytime she does anything just straight up uncalled for as well, I am not the only one.

As Konfliqt said, this is not because of the bloody IR. Last night you literally became the straw that broke the camel's back. It's all well and good that you have a toxic or dark sense of humour or whatever you want to call it, but it comes off as extremely toxic, especially when you seem to target me when everyone else does. I don't think you realize this so I will say it again. AN ADMIN TARGETING A SPECIFIC PERSON GIVES OTHER PEOPLE VALIDATION TO DO SO. I am not going to imply that you are the reason people harass me, that would be childish and unacceptable, however I certainly don't think it helped the matter any. Especially not when I was already being harassed by people when you started doing this, and afterwards it only got WORSE. There is a LOOC log out there of me walking ICly into the bar and immediately getting harassed in LOOC, from a few days ago where Catnip had to step in and tell people to stop. That is all I did. Again, you are not the direct cause of this, but everytime you say something even joking, you have to take into account who will take it seriously. Also, some very nice person (whom I shall not name) sent me actual things you have said about me unironically as well as an out of context quote which I can easily explain. Now I do understand these could have been jokes, but one of them involves a joke I made which has been used out of context to bash me since it happened during a LOOC conversation between myself and a few other people. And for reference, telling someone to take off a STANDARD ISSUE UNIFORM is not discipline. If it is the uniform, the Head of Staff does not actually retain the right to change that.

Byond Key: Lilium Argentium Staff Byond Key: NursieKitty Reason for Complaint: Toxicity and general badminning Remarks: I am going to try to be nice about this, and not passive-aggressive, but I am warning you now, I may be such despite my efforts. Also note this is mainly an observation of Nursie towards everyone; not exclusively me. Nursie, I tried to respect you, I really did, I tried to be nice, I REALLY did. Unfortunately, my first personal experience with Nursie was her shitting on my character, an action which has since become the norm for almost everyone, which I do not think is helped by the validation of an admin who has a very large amount of power in the server. This is not about her criticizing my character though. From my short experience of merely a few months on the Aurora, Nursie does this to almost everyone. Any interaction I have seen between her and someone else is always toxic and angry, not to mention the times I have both heard about and witnessed her saying and doing things as her characters that are only threatening because WE KNOW she's an admin, (like threatening to IR people for wearing the standard female nurse's uniform, not cool.) All in all, I have never seen anyone have a pleasant OOC interaction with Nursie, nor have I myself. I understand being an Admin is stressful and comes with a lot of power, but really? It just doesn't seem appropriate to dump out whatever stress or toxicity just because you want to whether it is in IC or OOC. (I am sorry I seem to have no screenshots or anything, I always forget to take them when something actually happens).