kait

talked about the ussr and insensetevely mentioned jews, you can read my schizoposting in my threads when i tried to appeal right afterwards.

oh yeah also reading my shit back, i was psychotic and partially schizophrenic back then, damn i said some shit

BYOND Key: FrankyNB Total Ban Length: permament Banning staff member's Key: alberyk Reason of Ban: Discord racism talk Reason for Appeal: discord talk perma ban and it was a long time ago Yeah i got banned over spicy and insensetive conversation in discord several years ago. Time has passed, and i got banned from the game over a discord convo. I played well and had one warning if i remember correctly which was discussed in a thread. Being a very political and heated lad before made me act up, no discord politics anymore man i dont care, i just want to play

So lets give the benefit of the doubt to the person in the unban thread after me, who had history of repeating some shit for like years lol is given MORE liberty then me just explaining myself in THIS AMOUNT. I have a feeling if i just had come out saying sorry i didn't mean it, there wasn't such a fuss about it. Like what do you want, say sorry to someone who it might've touched or what. I already said that i do not hold the same view i already explained in the post. How many times do i need to repeat that i didnt mean what it came off as and why i then went for the things i went for. Holy shit. This got so personal to the point that "WELL YOUR SORRY DOESNT SEEM GENIUNE" WELL SHIT. I GUESS THE PERSON JUST WRITES ESSAYS TO FUCKING GO GET EM JEWS AND BE ANTISEMITIC AND IS BEING NOT LEGIT! Like if it all comes down to "I dont trust you are actually sorry for this or didnt mean it" well lets have a conversation, again, if you go THAT FAR to literally take everything i say IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY If its the thing that "If you say anything weird that can be bad - permaban" then thats a whole another problem. I had tendency to get into rants that are really sometimes emotionally fueled, but never received any warning or whatever. And once i make a fucking retarded mistake and then get defensive because i knew by the reactions that what i just said was seen like that probably, thats the virtue signal to totally permaban me . Okay yes a joke, do we now even hold jokes as the overall verdict to the whole ACTION of the person. I can change the tittle if it really bothers everyone but thats legit just a joke since i already thought that the immediate action against me as like being antisemitic was really fucking harsh and unforgiving. Since when courts operate of feels. Im sorry that im quite upset but holy shit. This is literally lets take everything that is written AS THE WORST CASE POSSIBLE SCENARIO and as BEING DISINGENUOUS. I had no history of that sort of shit and had no slips like that before never warned for saying shit in general never signaled to stop and now its like everybody always knew that i was an antisemite and its a well known thing and like i have history of that shit. What the fuck. WHAT EVEN IS THIS IM PERMABANNED DUDE. MAYBE A GOOD IDEA TO LET PEOPLE KNOW IF THEY SEEM TO BE REALLY OUT OF TOUCH OR SAYING SOMETHING REALLY FUCKED LIKE I WAS IN THOSE SCREENSHOTS? I already admitted that it wasn't appropriate and wrong, what else do you want, YES IT WAS BAD AND BLUNT AND NOT WHAT I MEANT I can say that literally to anyone. Lets take an example a group of like a 100 people and like crime statistics and lets say 60% of crimes were committed by Russians in that group. (Even tho its not entirely a race, but a group and a generalization) If i say "those fucking evil Russians decided they could kill and steal shit" Doesn't sound that impactfull, right? BECAUSE I WENT OVER THIS Im sorry if its been too emotional to be appropriate but i have never thought that a ban appeal when im being 100% clear would be called not legitimate and disingenuous. I just actually cant believe how fucking hard everyone is reaching out several comments so far to just dismiss everything.

Okay this whole thing is really weird, since we have been already talking about the USSR and things regarding it, also the people in charge. Of course i would have things on that subject. I already explained why i felt the need to give an honest explanation because as ive said i dont get the whole racist part, and i knew where i might have fucked up, not the exact PIN POINT understanding. So regarding this, i already went over it in my explanation and its blunt but cause of my autism it wasnt INTENDED AS WELL THE JEWS ARE EVIL AND BEHIND THIS. It was an obvious generalization, for me at least. The word "jews' This supports what ive said above, and what i already explained, that it was the idea of mine at the time and i provided "History class" paragraph for it. Well, it was implied by the reaction and later supported by my ban, that it was seen that way. Like where am i wrong here. At this point i dont feel the need of apologizing and saying what ive already said, but this reply seems like none of that was literally acknowledged because well, i was blunt and i do not think that commissars being jewish affected anything really, like what do you want from me i already went about this. Believe what? Do you even know what i believe? What is this supposed to mean. Here i acknowledge my misinformed opinions and literally say that i was wrong. And i even provide the context for why i brought up an another race and explain my reasoning. This prevents me going on 10 more replies then already needed and providing all the information needed for context and explaining how and why. If simply feeling genuine about something, and mentioned before, i didn't really know what was wrong, i couldn't point my finger on it. Now that you phrase it like this, This seems to be the combination of autism and then interrupting it as me defending against WHO I TRULY AM! Honestly, what the fuck. Also i literally said this to prevent you from falling into that train of thought but you still gone there, like youre reaching for it. Oh right, thats whats making me look guilty. Did you forgot the fact that its a P E R M A B A N ? And instead of telling me and going about this in a more you know, i would even say liberal way, instead of just BAM, GONE. I brought up the fact that if thats something that deserved a punishment in your community then it should've not been a perma ban, simple as that. And then i was also every time using wording suggesting that it might not have deserved the punishment from my prespective. I have a feeling that you went out of your way to literally interpret everything as ive said in the most dishonest and awful way. Like i have a feeling that i need to point thing you just missed out didnt bother taking into account while replying. If the whole verdict is up for your senses if im being honest or not, its quite actually sad that everything seems to be like that, and gives me the impressions of an obvious bias. Please follow up with a more sensible reply that does no rely on "I just dont trust you". If you are taking that route well we might as well just have a conversation with literally the half of my friends being Jewish Russians living in Israel. If thats what you are going for. oh yeah, if you referring to the name of the thread, it was a joke dude. Obviosly refering to the "The Jewish question" debate. I just thought that being banned over apparently anti-semitism, it would be quite appropriate to just do J, you know. Sorry if its inappropriate.

BYOND Key: frankynb Total Ban Length: unknown (assuming, permanent) Banning staff member's Key: alberyk Reason of Ban: Reason for Appeal: So let me, explain. The reason for this to be written in the first place First, i do not belive that the ban shouldve been permanent if it did took place, and i could argue about what i was saying as not being racist, tho i understand at the time i did put it blunt. Second, i really do care and want to play, being permanently blocked without a word (only being called out by an admin), from the game and the discord of the community i invested months and wanted to keep being a part of, for something that was done in discord seems to me like an overkill. The "meme" So after a conversation with a guy in #general regarding soviet union i started to explain my opinion on it, which was pretty negative, and blunt about a sensitive subject (just a reminder, that if that was brought to my attention instead of what follows, i would've totally agreed with that), then i have mentioned the Jews, after i think, mentioning the genocide of the Russian people. Can't say for word what have ive said, but from memory: I provided the list, of which shows the main commissars of the USSR, which all of them mostly being jewish. This looks awful for me. But then i also mentioned that the people, in this case, the electorate from OUTSIDE the Russian Empire arguably wouldn't give a shit about an another nation coming in. But thats where i was arguably wrong. History class So, with all of that, and now knowing more, i do not think that my idea at the time was really fair, with the knowing of what the Jewish culture is and how it was integrated and especially with like, 1 in 6 people in Israel being Russian. But, at the moment of the time frame i was referring to, the Jewish population was around 4.15%, and i had an idea, that the minority of the country, but the majority of the electorate couldn't represent the interests of the rest. Which didn't seem to be the case, and following the Stalin's hate for Jews also does not look good. In conclusion To start off, i was blunt. And to clarify if its still not obvious, i am not hateful or racist or whatever. Understandable that this might gave the impressions i am, since like 90% of anyone who ever mentions the Jews follows some insane hateful shit. If it been brought to my attention, i would've apologize, but that opportunity is gone. The ban itself, it my humble opinion, was weird. By my reaction of "yeah right", after being called an antisemitic by the admin was a knee jerk reaction, cause of course, i didn't think that i was. But the following, being blocked from everywhere PERMANENTLY, and being called a racist left me feeling honestly misinterpreted. I genuinely do not that think, that what i have done by talking about a sensitive subject deserved a permanent ban. I dont remember a political channel existing, otherwise i would've moved there. But again, its not fair to permanently ban somebody who didn't even knew what for. If you do consider that sort of phrasing possibly racist which i already expressed i never intended as, then i would be totally okay for a proper heads up, a warning or a timeout ban for like a day or two, to prevent this from happening again and me knowing the boundaries, sounds better, right? Then outright DELETE the person from the community. Especially without targeting any users or anybody mentioning in the moment to be offended by this. I DO MEAN EVERYTHING I WROTE HERE I could've make it much shorter, but i felt the need to explain the situation as a whole, being a sensitive subject, that cant really be easily judged. Preventing misunderstanding and feeling like just "sorry" wouldn't feel genuine. P.S the ban was applied in , so i think i did serve my sentence in the case that did deserve a ban. Kisses and smooches my dudes.

maybe leave medical resident as it is, and just add a medical intern with a lowered age cap and a bit different role that would more suit them?

Reporting Personnel: Kait Tea Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Bartender (Suspended) Game ID: b9r-bLl1 Personnel Involved: Offender: Evrart Luukanen- Security Officer Witness: Eva Meier - CSI (?) Time of Incident: Around ~08~ Real Time: 18:05 - 18:25 Location of Incident: Near the chapel Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [ ] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [x] - Assault [x] - Misconduct [ ] - Other _____ Overview of the Incident: As i was detained and being moved to the brig, Luukanen smashed me against the chapel window, in result damaging my right foot, which felt like it was broken. Confronting him about it, and asking for medical was met with a threat of "that's not all". Reporting that to the warden, who have witnessed me reacting to the injury and telling him about it, told me that i shall write it later, as i was moved to the shuttle. Submitted Evidence: None Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: Arthur Sommer - Warden Actions taken: None.

Well. If its more about the balance, and not what my character can reasonably be able to have simple knowledge about or learn, then i just have a problem with how restrictive and wide it is. That leads me to question everything, such as "what if my character is a reporter but i had him be in a militia for like 4 years, would that be no the cross knowledge that would be approved? Since that sounds even force balance then security/engineering". I find funny that the administrator, whom gave me the warning mentioned nothing about the balance, and more that it did not make sense for them, and that it comes out only right now. well, the thing is, that i was setting up a possible direction change but as of the time being given the warning to CEASE, i have to stay in security. And once again, i must argue, that the such small amount of knowledge (such as knowing the basic functions of a singular type of an airlock), which is not a compassion to the knowledge of engineering. In conclusion, that leaves me a bit concerning about, for an example "Can i, remove windows? Does my character know how to basically just unscrew it and pop it out? Or is it considered to be the knowledge that i cannot know, even tho it is basic i think", and that sorts of things. I dont mind the balancing, but i legitimately think that it almost does not affect balancing that hard. For me, the concern was more that, its so simple and basic, that even after a half hour long youtube video, and a bit of practice will grant you again, a basic way to understand it. And i valued what i saw as the common sense, and the direction to which i was trying to go with my character, more. Since even looking at it like that, it has, and probably would create more scenarios for me and everyone else involved, since i had a bit more control. Not that i agree, but if balancing in any way, is more valued then roleplay potential, alright.

I have just explained myself and this is not a satisfying reply to what i have said, if im being honest. I have expected more of a conversation, then "just that, and thats it". Non the less, thank you for your reply. And i also think its important to add Does not do a great job at understanding the rule, since the rules imply the wording such as "reasonable", and believable, which is subjective and only achieved to be understood through dialog and reasoning. I would not have a problem with any of this, if the rules have gone about every possible scenario in which i would have no questions, and they were well established on almost everything, which is impossible, so thats why they are the way they are. Having space for debate and relay on the perception of every individual what they think is believable, and when we have situations such as this one, when something believable for me and something i have explained and provided arguments for my views, the reply of "it is against the rules", is pretty... well. Also, this thread exists for me to clear up what you thought was wrong, and to find out what i did wrong since i had no clue, but as it looks, you have no interest to spend your time on it. The only problem i have, is that it does not only restrict what i can do as my character, but also makes me question anything that could be related to that, as other characters, other actions and such, since you have not provided anything to your counter argument, making the reason clear.

I do not wish to repeat myself, but as ive said, in my opinion, it does not take much effort to understand in a week of time, how a certain type of airlock would work, and only the principals of work of that specific airlock type on this specific station. I would not call that "complex knowledge". Me, ICly talking about that with people and somebody multiple times explaining that to me and myself implementing that to be my interest at the time, is not just "someone showed me icly". Then that does not show any respect to the situation, nor do i as the result come out knowing what exactly have ive done wrong. With that rule now acknowledged, an argument will not have took place, if you would've had the time to construct the issue you are having with me doing that, this thread might not have took place. But with that said, and with that regulation existing, that does not seem to be an issue of yours. About that. Those rules establish, its up to the person and his perception of the rule. For me, and how i think this might be reasonable, knowing basically how as ive said, many, many times, and which you ignored, my character does not have the knowledge of how mechanism of those sorts work, or deep knowledge of electricity, but what my character does know, plus what they have learned, and with my explanation, i would say that knowing the sequence and overall idea of how a specific thing works, and basic knowledge of tools, which is not a special knowledge on how to operate a screwdriver and such, and knowing the actions to achieve to force the door open. Even mechanical, the doors have a specific action that makes it loose power and reboot. And knowing that it has it, and knowing that one of these wires can do that, is not a complex set of knowledge. Getting shocked by the electronics, because of incompetence or being careless, in my case did teach my character how dangerous this can be, but at the same time forced them to be better and take it more seriously, which they did. The intention was never to know for certain "im going to get shocked and i dont care" The only situation in which i would say my actions were questionable, is when i tried to hack an alcohol vending machine, when the conversation happened, but i had no knowledge myself, and the character also had no knowledge on how this works, which resulted them being shocked, and then coming back to it, because first of all that was the their mistake, its a fucking alcohol machine god damn, and they want to actually try to successfully do that, to prove it to themselves and they think it would be awesome to do so. Which btw did not work. they broke it and gave up. Additionally, thank you for the references.

BYOND Key: frankynb Staff BYOND Key: shestrying Game ID:[/b] b80-crnN Reason for complaint: I wish to get a different opinion of staff, and as i think, i should've had a full conversation about what i can reasonably be able to do and what cannot, if you feel like completely ruining my developed in the sake of your view of it as wrong, instead of refusing to argue how and why on something that i suspect is not regulated by the rules or regulated in a way as described to be "reasonable". If im wrong and such regulations touched on my situation exist, please provide them to me or point in the right direction. I do think what i have been doing is not an issue. Evidence/logs/etc: ShesTrying has added themself to your ticket and should respond shortly. Thanks for your patience! [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: Hi, got a sec? to ShesTrying: sure [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: What is your usual job? to ShesTrying: sec to ShesTrying: maybe not soon [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: so why are you hacking around maintenance? to ShesTrying: cause i find peace only here, and i began to be more interested in that sort of stuff, so that makes me kinda think if i wanna continue sec to ShesTrying: its more of my character being a weirdo and not valuing the law as of lately to ShesTrying: and just generally going a bit insane and being interested by weird places that this one has [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: Well, you can't go around hacking things as a security officer. You need to stay within your character's knowledge. to ShesTrying: Thats the thing, i might not be security soon, im laid off for the time being [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: Right, well that doesn't mean your character can magically get the knowledge of wiring that takes schooling to get [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: stop hacking as this character. to ShesTrying: ive been actually going around asking people to teach me shit and doing an arch of learning new shit to ShesTrying: for like a legit a week [Common] Stojan Osteriz says, "Eh, CE, s ays its 60kpa on the other side of the shutter in my office." [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: Right, but that doesn't matter. It takes years of schooling to learn wiring and stuff. Just because someone taught you the mechanics doesn't mean your character can know everything [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: You need to stop hacking on this character to ShesTrying: the knowdledge of this specific door and these specific vending machines here is not a years worth of knowledge i would say [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: the wires change every shift. Stop arguing with me. to ShesTrying: the principals of it still the same [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: It's not. And you're not going to argue with me. I am telling you, that as a character that is schooled for security, you are not allowed to hack things. [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: So stop doing it. to ShesTrying: a week of practice on a specific set of doors and beaing taught is not enough to at least have a simple knowdledge of what to do? [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: No, it's not. to ShesTrying: i keep fucking up and ending up in the medical as the result because i dont know what im doing besides the functions of this specific set of electronics [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: Again, that's because you dont know how to hack. You need to avoid pain on your character and play them in a realistic way. to ShesTrying: Where are the regulations about what your characters knowdlegde can and cant let you do [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: stop hacking as this character,. to ShesTrying: ive been doing an arch of learning this shit as ive said a week or so [Secondary Administrator PM] ShesTrying: I'm telling you, as a security main, you do not have wiring knowledge to be hacking. I am done arguing with you. Your ticket has been closed by ShesTrying. You have been warned by an administrator. Click here to review and acknowledge them! Additional remarks: (((context))) Ive been fucking around in the maintenance, just walking around. I dont like that it requires to explain my character motivations and such, but if someone decides to just straight up tell me "dont do it. dont argue with me", im afraid i shall. First of all, as ive said it, my character is under a massive change, and currently, it is not sure Kait returns to sec. Due to her opinion of the job, events happened, people met, her perception of her workplace shifted. Being influenced by several people to initiate her to review her life and revalue her decisions and herself, it takes a toll on her, and massively affects her schizophrenia as the result. Returning to the station in her free time, to visit the people she knows there and begin to be interested by her workplace, the station, she finds calm in occupying her mind with at least something that she can do, which she found learning new things, such as basic electricity and mechanical engineering for dummies, using the station as her way to do it. Over a week i have asked people to teach me certain things and mentioning that i have been spending time researching it all, in my opinion pretty valid for someone no BASICALLY know how to operate AIRLOCKS OF SPECIFIC KIND. The knowledge comes from practical experience only with that kind of arilcok type, its not like my character is a professional, i myself can learn how a specific model of a car runs in a week and know pretty much all about it, but have no idea of anything else besides that vehicle. So with that said, i do not think it was necessary for the problem but i thought that motivations such actions do need to be mentioned in detail... And now, to the problem itself. Second of all, i do not believe that what i have been warned for is in violation of any rules. The administrative work, from my understanding, is to enforce the rule-set of the server, and act in its borders, rather then going out of their way for something that they believe to be valid. In my opinion, if you would go out on somebody as such, at least have the decency to argue with them, or make them understand of what they did wrong, instead of being a dick and ending up on a note such as "You are wrong, do not do that, dont argue with me". That leaves me confused, a bit insulted, and not knowing what i have done wrong, since no rule, no such regulation, no dialog about the issue took place. Im not here to ruin anyone day, im here to play. This situation, begs for a question what would be a reasonable amount of knowledge your character is able to have to preform in mechanically. And with all ive said, i truly believe that i have that knowledge with my character. If i totally missed the point and its about "You are sec, you know its bad and you would not do something like that", well, again, my character is conflicted about their occupation. I would say its a restrictive statement. I do not think, that a person, who is mentally challenged and is about to might loose their job because of that is really unable to commit a crime, of which they have not been caught ONCE. This might have been poorly structured or worded, and i apologize, since i am not used to writing such letters.