Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Type (e.g. Planet, Faction, System):Party Founding/Settlement Date (if applicable): Region of Space:all of sol Controlled by (if not a faction):SOL Other Snapshot information: Party commissioner: Sgt. Cesare Pietro Valerio Augustiani, Doctor of Astronomy and Xenobiological studies, “Sol Invictus” Sub-Officer for party internal affairs: Natasha Vladmirinova Eisenmacht, Juris Doctor “Minerva” Leader for Propaganda: Dr. Marc Voltaire Declerc, Doctor of Political Science, Juris Doctor “Apollo” Leader for Paramilitary affairs: Cmdr. Jakub DeNeukaap “Mars” Platform:Third positionism, Terran Nationalism, Human Nationalism, Terra Irredenta, Economic Corporatism, National Syndicalism, Progressivism, Gender Equality, Imperialism, Populism, Autarky, Terran/Human Nationalism: The party glorifies the state of Sol and it's mighty past, proclaiming unity for all of Humanity, regardless of now meaningless races and ethnicities, It also focusses on how Humanity can benefit the Galaxy and how the Alien races should be subservient to Humanity and Earth. Economic Corporatismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#Fascist_corporatism: Banner of the Party: Long Description: The Atlas party is a Socio-political party in the Sol popular assembly. The party was founded early in the creation of the second alliance, as a support organization for Terran colonists to the new frontier worlds, which of course were funded by the Terra Nova Corporation a Colony Contracting corporation, traditionally owned by leaders of the Party. Eventually the support movement radicalized into a political party that stood for “Human Rights”, originally this was quite moderate and peaceful, with only minor restrictions being wanted for Xenos, and a Registration program for all that worked inside of the Alliances. However soon after that the Radicals from the Terra Nova Corporation/party wing staged a coup of party leadership, and silently became the new majority changing the platform to suit their wishes. Following this coup the Party started using mass politics and populism to draw support pointing out the flaws in the Modern Sol government, all the while criticising its association with aliens such as the Skrell, and Tajarra. The party also opened up a youth wing Sons and Daughters of Sol Invictus (SDSI), which trained children in the dogma of mass action, as well as the principles of being a good citizen of the federation these children, were declared the future of the party. Along with the youth branch a Paramilitary branch was started the Legion of Atlas’s Titans (LAT) or Titans for short , Here willing participants, required to have served 5 years in the Alliance’s Navy or army, and were required to be Human (Obviously). These men and women were to be trained to be the vanguard of Atlas’s parades throughout streets. These Vanguards are also known to go lone wolf and work for the Syndicate against Nanotrasen, especially the infamous agent Caesar, a noted Sol Revolutionary Caesarist, they will refrain from taking work for currency instead wishing only for the action against Nanotrasen. Now to explain the Atlas’s program. Atlas is split into many internal factions each representing a front, in Ideology against the Xenos, and for Humanity. Tecnosyndicalists: Technosyndicalists are a specialized form of National Syndicalists that wish to reorganize the economy in to planets that are self-sufficient and turn them into National communes, as well as Nationalizing large corporations, especially Nanotrasen, whom they view with utter disgust in the way of Human dominance, especially with their hiring of- Heads of staff no less of Xeno species. Mch. Augmentalists: Mechanical Augmentalists are a group of the party who seek, to assist Humanity’s evolution through the use of machinery, especially with Implants at birth and mechanically enhanced features. They are strong proponents of trade with the Skrell to further Humanity’s technological advancement. Gen Augmentalists: These men and women are the more naturalist version of the Mechanical Augmentalists, instead of arguing for the Mechanical assisted evolution of Humanity, they advocate for investment into genetic science to perfect Humanities flawed genetics, and create a naturally superior Human Ubermensch (to quote Nietzsche) that could increase Humanity’s standing in the galaxy. They are also in favour of *not surprisingly* wishing to harvest lesser races as biomass to facilitate organ cloning and other genetic science. Moderates: The moderates embody the largest part of the Party, representing the average joe, and their plight against the Xenos. They support generally separate, but equal treatment of Aliens. Along with the annexation of the Tajarran and Unathi governments to add to the Terran work force and, to promote Human culture to the perceived barbarity of the Unathi, especially one of their cultures Sexism. Which the moderates are vehemently against, as well as the Politically backwards Tajarrans. Crusaders: Those who liken the struggle against Xenos, as a Struggle for God, they run missions on Aliens words spreading Earth religions to whom they perceive as savages like the Indians of North America. They are by far the most peaceful and Conservative members of the Party espousing Pacifism. Caesarists: These are men who wish to see the end of the Solar Republic and wish to see a dawn of a Terran Empire. They cite the ancient significance of the Imperial houses of Earth and point out that why all mighty, the SKrell have never had a true empire. Nor is anyone else in space, currently a monarchy. Their ultimate goal is appointing the party leader as Emperor of Sol. TERRA NOVA COPORATION SUB-TOPIC The Terra Nova corporation is a Colonial contracter and PMC as designated by the Sol Stock markets as TNC. Of it's many services now offered, Private military is the best selling, especially for new colonies they help set up with their colonial contracting and construction on habitable worlds for Humans, What their PMC entails is the assistance in forming a planetary militia and construction of a spaceport to begin Pirate defence, they have been praised as efficient in this, not however without scandel. Despite its general Non-Political purpose, Terra Nova is always headed by the Leader of the ATLAS party, a Human supremacists and Right wing party in the Sol Popular Assembly this has lead to controversy with it's placing of Human clients over aliens and the Formation of a "Black militia" on Europa Pulchrae. Edited March 13, 2015 by Guest Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You are really, really pushing to include more fascist undertones to the Sol Alliance. Child soldiers and neo-Roman idealization don't really have a place, in my mind, in the whimsical universe of Space Station 13; nor in Aurora, despite its more grounding in reality. As well as this, you're pushing far too many human superiority factions, and I believe that if you had your way, you would attempt to turn the Sol Alliance into a human supremacist faction, because every lore addition to SA politics has been a reflavouring of "xenos are bad". Unless there's a spontaneous outburst of support from the playerbase, I really have no plans to accept this application. Link to comment
mrimatool Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I like diverse beliefs but go Vittorio doesn't ever stop with his love for humanity. Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 You are really, really pushing to include more fascist undertones to the Sol Alliance. Child soldiers and neo-Roman idealization don't really have a place, in my mind, in the whimsical universe of Space Station 13; nor in Aurora, despite its more grounding in reality. As well as this, you're pushing far too many human superiority factions, and I believe that if you had your way, you would attempt to turn the Sol Alliance into a human supremacist faction, because every lore addition to SA politics has been a reflavouring of "xenos are bad". Unless there's a spontaneous outburst of support from the playerbase, I really have no plans to accept this application. Except you know this one Political party, Stop seeing things that are not there Jackboot, I'm pushing something that's realistic, people are idiotic if they believe even /Most/ Humans are okay with Cat's and Lizards being treated as equal, let's look again at how shitty we've treated /OTHER/ Humans the slave trade?Destruction of the Latin Americans?the Rush for Africa? it is simply foolish to believe Humans would not simply dislike the xenos, even in modern europe, a place often praised for it's liberty has extreme backclash against Islamic immigrants, Have you seen the Front national? Swedish Democrats? UKIP? PVV? Fratelli D'italia? Alternative fur Deutschland? these are all rising parties that deal with this. Where in the fuck did you get child soldiers from? It's a youth wing like every party in the world has, the NDP in Canada has a goddamned youth wing, they generally mean gettings youths involved in politics and teaching them the ideals of parties, And Neo-Roman what? I used a Universal Cultural unifier language, since Sol Common isn't real I used Latin, Caesar just fit the purpose with using the CLiche Leader or Emperor sort of a Propaganda effect. Link to comment
Gollee Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The child soldiers part was a misreading on part, when I alerted Jackboot to this, however, enforcing mass action in anyone is indoctrination, the most vital part of turning normal people into guiltless soldiers. I would be very, very suprised if the Sol Alliance allowed a political party to indoctrinate children openly. Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 The child soldiers part was a misreading on part, when I alerted Jackboot to this, however, enforcing mass action in anyone is indoctrination, the most vital part of turning normal people into guiltless soldiers. I would be very, very suprised if the Sol Alliance allowed a political party to indoctrinate children openly. Training people on acting like a group is indoctrination? To be honest what i intended it as, was just an organization to teach the youth to be loyal Citizens, and just generally teach them about the party. Link to comment
Conservatron Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 i see no real problem with youth groups, young democrats and young republicans are both fairly large movements in the USA and I can't speak for other countries but I'm sure they have equivalents. I think some of you are going too extreme on your reading of the youth group into indoctrination and see it like parents getting their kids involved in the political process from an early age to try and push their opinions. It happens literally every single day in the current world, I don't see why it wouldn't happen in the future. That said, Vit seems to be going too far on the titles, scale it back and keep it normal. Sorry, but no legitimate government is going to allow a political party whose leader styles itself as emperor. It looks like you are trying to trump them up as a semi-autonomous group with its own paramilitary structure when really the only spot they'd hope to occupy is as a fringe political party. In short, the feel I get from this is more KKK than recognized party. Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I apologize for the misinterpretation. I still feel this is just too much. this would bring aurora into a 40k universe level of autocracy and I just don't think it fits, especially with all the other human supremacy movements you're proposing. Link to comment
Conservatron Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I want to say I'm np way against human supremacy (reminding that I +1'd the original application) however, it should either be a fringe movement or a legitimate political party, having a borderline Nazi party complete with its own governing body and paramilitary arm just realistically isn't going to fly. Bring it into the realm of realism and I'll +1 with Conservan again Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 I apologize for the misinterpretation. I still feel this is just too much. this would bring aurora into a 40k universe level of autocracy and I just don't think it fits, especially with all the other human supremacy movements you're proposing. This is...my only movement....If your talking about the HS that's tool. This level of Autocracy is too much? Was Argentina under Peron too Autocratic? And this is just a Political party /IT DOES NOT/ rule Sol, It is of the like of UKIP a right-wing Populist movement, Don't think it fits with what? Our already omnipresent shady corporations? Terrorists that attack civilians frequently? Massive Civil wars? I think this fits perfectly, and if Xenolovers can have a united front, why can't Human Supremacists? Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 I want to say I'm np way against human supremacy (reminding that I +1'd the original application) however, it should either be a fringe movement or a legitimate political party, having a borderline Nazi party complete with its own governing body and paramilitary arm just realistically isn't going to fly. Bring it into the realm of realism and I'll +1 with Conservan again It's a Paramilitary movement because the Company that is run by the party is a PMC/Colonial Charter company, a Chartered PMC, so it's totally legal. How in any way is it Nazish? because it's Far-right? It DOES NOT seek to exterminate xenos, nor did I put that anywhere except the Genetic Augmentalists section...Parties all have governing structures......like they are advisers. Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Updated Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 How many characters are currently involved in this? I'm leaning to accepting it, but I don't want to accept factions that are operated by single persons. Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 How many characters are currently involved in this? I'm leaning to accepting it, but I don't want to accept factions that are operated by single persons. Well this really depends on who wants to man up and drop the 21st century First world Tolerance we have in our minds and accept that when we meet aliens WE WILL be racist and hate them quite a bit, That an I need to advertise. Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 If you can get 2~3 other people involved in this I'll canonize it. Link to comment
Conservatron Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I have Conservan affiliated with the party on his home planet of Mars, and find it much more agreeable after the edits so I once again am +1 Link to comment
Guest Menown Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Sidelining this. Just throwing out some info. Things you can NOT apply for here: - New alien races - an organization with one or more of your characters in leadership positions. - Splinter Sol Alliance factions (e.g. Rebels) - Unrealistic, snowflakey, supernatural additions (e.g. A system with 100 planets; a nation of wizards) - Non-human systems (e.g. A new skrellian system) [this is due to alien whitelist conflicts] - Something which violates the general narrative of our story (e.g. A planet co-opted by NT and the Syndicate, living together in peace) - Changes to established lore (e.g. reworking structure of NT) - anything which directly conflicts with established lore Gianluigi Cesariani(HoS/Captain)Younger brother of the leader of the ATLAS party Not exactly sure if that is close enough for association and violation for that rule, but I'm just making note of that. Every single one of Tytos' characters would probably be card-carrying members of this party, as it fits his "anti-xeno" ideals, that persists throughout his characters. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, I dunno. Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Sidelining this. Just throwing out some info. Things you can NOT apply for here: - New alien races - an organization with one or more of your characters in leadership positions. - Splinter Sol Alliance factions (e.g. Rebels) - Unrealistic, snowflakey, supernatural additions (e.g. A system with 100 planets; a nation of wizards) - Non-human systems (e.g. A new skrellian system) [this is due to alien whitelist conflicts] - Something which violates the general narrative of our story (e.g. A planet co-opted by NT and the Syndicate, living together in peace) - Changes to established lore (e.g. reworking structure of NT) - anything which directly conflicts with established lore Gianluigi Cesariani(HoS/Captain)Younger brother of the leader of the ATLAS party Not exactly sure if that is close enough for association and violation for that rule, but I'm just making note of that. Every single one of Tytos' characters would probably be card-carrying members of this party, as it fits his "anti-xeno" ideals, that persists throughout his characters. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, I dunno. I'm not sure if you have acess to the Head of staff section, you probably do but okay, You would see if you could look there he was nothing to do with Politics and when questioned will just nod his head and agree with his brother without complaint, he is not involved what so ever in the party and is merely a sibling of a leader. Link to comment
Guest Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Just some questions from Xander 1. How do you see this organization affecting players in an IC standpoint? Do you think players will be more bold about Speciesism? 2. While you aren't allowed to hold a leadership position, would you be able to produce party propaganda and news in the IC Extranet forums? This would provoke a sense of depth for the party and make it feel more solid. 3. Would you be able to make Paper-BBCode pamphlets to spread around the station to encourage more community involvement? 4. Out of curiosity, what are your characters in relation to this party? As in, which Internal Factions are they a part of? Link to comment
Vittorio Giurifiglio Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Just some questions from Xander 1. How do you see this organization affecting players in an IC standpoint? Do you think players will be more bold about Speciesism? 2. While you aren't allowed to hold a leadership position, would you be able to produce party propaganda and news in the IC Extranet forums? This would provoke a sense of depth for the party and make it feel more solid. 3. Would you be able to make Paper-BBCode pamphlets to spread around the station to encourage more community involvement? 4. Out of curiosity, what are your characters in relation to this party? As in, which Internal Factions are they a part of? 1.) Hardly, if we were Internet SJW's before, we will be most likely forever, However I do hope that it gives speciests a banner to flock around and defend one another over. 2.) Defianatly, I personally wanted to this a while ago but decided against it due to it not being accepted. 3.) I could, however they would not do the party justice, as images are a big part of the party and the forms don't work like that. 4.) Vittorio: A little bit of every faction. Lodewikus: Moderate Victorinius Augustus: Crusader-Caesarist Cesariani: Technosyndicalist Link to comment
Guest Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Just some questions from Xander 1. How do you see this organization affecting players in an IC standpoint? Do you think players will be more bold about Speciesism? 2. While you aren't allowed to hold a leadership position, would you be able to produce party propaganda and news in the IC Extranet forums? This would provoke a sense of depth for the party and make it feel more solid. 3. Would you be able to make Paper-BBCode pamphlets to spread around the station to encourage more community involvement? 4. Out of curiosity, what are your characters in relation to this party? As in, which Internal Factions are they a part of? 1.) Hardly, if we were Internet SJW's before, we will be most likely forever, However I do hope that it gives speciests a banner to flock around and defend one another over. 2.) Defianatly, I personally wanted to this a while ago but decided against it due to it not being accepted. 3.) I could, however they would not do the party justice, as images are a big part of the party and the forms don't work like that. 4.) Vittorio: A little bit of every faction. Lodewikus: Moderate Victorinius Augustus: Crusader-Caesarist Cesariani: Technosyndicalist Alright, thanks for answering my questions Tytos! I'll ask Jackboot to take a look at this now. And I'll even buy into it with my upcoming chaplain character I'll be making! Link to comment
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