Staff Complaint - SonicGotNuked

[HighAdmiral]

BYOND Key: James View

Staff BYOND Key: SonicGotNuked

Game ID:  Forum related complaint

Reason for complaint: Unjust forum ban, silencing my voice on the forum, and presenting incorrect evidence in administrative action.

Evidence/logs/etc: -  

Additional remarks: Sonic warned me for a post I had made on the forum, a single point post marked as "spamming." (picture 1) This was not pointed as toward any specific post, and I had posted on two different moderator applications that day. I had posted a joke response on Shadows application, as he was literally begging for -1s in OOC. I let him see it, then edited to a serious response. I checked his profile and saw he and Borya were friends. I assumed he'd gotten offended by my comment on Boryas applications.  The comment was paraphrasing "Borya is a shitty person, probably fits SS13 tho +1" What I should've said, is I personally have had bad experiences with Borya. I think he's a shitter. He is really in with this community though, everyone loves and respects him as he does it. I think he'd be a fine moderator here but not anywhere else. When I contacted Sonic to explain that I wasn't joking or spamming, he sent me one line "Oh so you're just toxic" and added an additional two points, making for a total of three which banned me from the forum. In this second staff action, he posted evidence pointing towards Shadows application which was a clear and obvious joke. I assumed this was a misunderstanding and tried to communicate via discord clarification. He didn't respond either time. 

I now feel Sonic has maliciously made this a confusing situation, refused clarification on the offending post, and just in general been toxic in retaliation to what he percieved as toxicity.

For five days I have been unable to even file a complaint.

[Alberyk]

Don't shitpost on applications. There was zero indication of you making a joke there, besides changing it later to something else. I don't think he was wrong for giving you a single point/warning for that. But, now on the borya application; you totally deserved it.

This was no real feedback there; you are pretty much calling someone shittler, on the top of trashtalking the moderation team. So, yes, you deserved the other point. Don't see how he is wrong about you being a dick/toxic/rude person here.

[HighAdmiral]

That "changing it later" is every indication needed. It was non edited for maybe five minutes. Literally just long enough for Shadow to see it. So no, that's him knowingly prosecuting a clear and obvious joke.

As for Borya, as I've said I have very mixed feelings about him. I stand by my review of him being toxic, but good in this community. The fact it's acceptable for that opinion to be removed simply because it's "calling someone shitler" is honestly pretty sad. It's not trashtalking if it's truth, which is apparent from your response to my complaint.

Regardless, it's been made clear my opinion or humor is not wanted on staff applications. I will not be responding to them in the future.

Edited January 11, 2020 by HighAdmiral

[Alberyk]

Calling someone a shittler is not really evidence of anything, neither it is any constructive criticism. Sorry, but you deserved those bans and points.

[HighAdmiral]

Since when has evidence ever been required of a personal review of an application? My opinion of them is low, and that was communicated. That was the point.

[Alberyk]

From the server and forums guidelines:

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Don't be a dick. We're all here to have fun, not fight and argue with assholes. Don't ruin the game for everyone else, and use common sense. This includes anything from attacking other people, starting arguments over nothing, etcetera.

Calling someone names and just that is barely any real feedback. Don't post if you are going to shitpost or insult people, kinda common sense here.

[HighAdmiral]

I didn't "just call them names". My comment had much more than "borya shitter" in it. Borya and I have not had good experiences, him and I have both blocked each other on Discord over past events. Is the issue me not going into depth enough? Or is this just staff clique because Borya is friend of all staff? My review of his application was neither a shitpost nor meant to be insulting. It was an honest review of my opinion of him.

[Alberyk]

This is not really proper at all. As I said, you deserved those points, nothing else I can add here. If you can't attempt to give feedback without trashtalking, calling other names or just being awfully ironic, just don't.

[HighAdmiral]

You're right. I didn't realize how improper the original message was. I agree with the original warning, however I'm still quite annoyed by Sonics inability to create a forum warning properly. This could've been clarified a long time ago if he'd been even a fraction more communicative.

[Alberyk]

I have spoken to him about doing it properly. I will consider this solved then.