Baseball = Contraband?

[Blue]

This round, botany had produced plenty of baseball bats, made of wood, for the crew to potentially play with. That is when the HoS De Santos quickly came in and announced they were contraband.

Now, Delta, I am NOT attacking you or anything. If I was, I'd put this in an incident report at the very least. In fact, since multiple people backed up your character's claim, I cannot even complain about it. However, it does leave questions in my mind.

A baseball bat is a baseball bat. It is designed to play sports with. Yes, it's only real mechanical use is a beating machine. But it is still a baseball bat. While on the station, Vira said they were contraband because "They can be used as a weapon". Okay, I can get that. But, every department has like 3-4 items in it that can be used as weapons. Science literally creates weapons as their job, even. Toolboxes aren't contraband, are they?

The other argument was that you had no use for a baseball bat on the station. What about leisure time? You could invent some kind of game to play with it. We have a basketball simulator, so having sports on the station isn't too far-fetched. Really, it's not like a knife, or a bomb, or a gun. It's just a baseball bat. If people can openly hold out crowbars and welding tools and such, why can't they use a baseball bat?

[Susan]

There are no baseballs, baseball field, or anything even remotely useful to let you play the game on station.

You're also not there to play sports outside of the holodeck.

Ergo the only use for a bat is a weapon.

[Guest]

It's mostly on the account on the intent that they are made. And the fact they were so easily within reach, and available to the crew. when you create high-risk items like that (even if they're for baseball), there's going to be a potential for people utilizing bats as weapons. They're considered improvised weapons because of this.

Plus, sports-made baseball bats are specifically designed for ergonomic control, compactness and lightweightedness. The bats here are heavy, big, and shoddy.

It's the heavy risk that's attached to it, is all, which is why I declared them contraband. I've already had a nasty experience early this week with arming crew members and forming a militia. Having a botanist do relatively the same thing would result in my having to arrest every single person that was handed a bat, at risk of the officer's getting their heads being homerunned out of the stadium.

My job as a HoS is to minimize risk and casualties whilst also maximizing and encouraging teamwork, cooperation and adherence to Corp Reg on the station. If I'm failing to do any of this because I didn't have foresight or a care about people passing out bats that could very well gangbang someone that said something unpopular over comms, I'm responsible. And I will not be responsible for something I let out of my control, not again.

I apologize if this comes off as dickish, but I'm doing what needs to be done to make sure everyone is enjoying the experience without having to worry about self-antags, griefers and chucklefucks. People need to know that the actions they perform have consequences, and will be met with punishment for not having foresight.

[Blue]

Well you see Delta, here's my problem with that. I completely understand how they can be used as weapons. However, to say that they *could* be used as weapons to justify their banishment is sorta meta, in my eyes. You're defending against what could happen, not what you know happens. If self-antags and chucklefucks come along, crash the harmbaton on their pathetic little skulls.

And Sue, that does not mean the crew cannot try, or be creative with their use of the bats. They could play softball with it in the holodeck, for example, with a beach ball or any toy, really.

[Guest]

Yes baseball bats are considered contraband. There is no IC reason why they would be on the station. This was agreed with the person who made them to start with.

Softball in the holodeck wouldn't work because of the windows. It would use their own version of bats and balls.

Also I'll add on that within 5 minutes of these getting implemented there was attack logs of people getting hit with them (non antags it was extended)

and people would walk around with them in their bag and try to attack people they saw doing wrong or tried to attack them.

[Blue]

Heh, still seems funny to me, but I'll accept it.

On a sidenote, maybe we should add non-lethal bats?

[Guest]

Soft bats? Could be a good idea have them in the lockers near the holodeck.

[witchbells]

Could hitting someone with a soft bat produce the same effect as hitting someone with a sunflower

but with a bat

[VoltageHero]

Add in baseballs.

(x) hits the baseball!

(y)'s stomach is slammed into by the baseball at 95 MPH!

(y) collapses in pain!

[Guest]

Nursie - I don't see why not.

Volt - Maybe, balls would only work in the holodeck. Windows, work risks, and the general why are they on station would be why they wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

[mrimatool]

Just a note, we have reinforced glass, glass that's strong enough not to break while we orbit. Why would a baseball do anything to that other than bounce off?

[VoltageHero]

Nursie - I don't see why not.

Volt - Maybe, balls would only work in the holodeck. Windows, work risks, and the general why are they on station would be why they wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

 

My suggestion was partly a joke, seeing as if they were added, the attacks logs like I made an example of, would be the only thing that happened.

[Mikalhvi]

Nursie - I don't see why not.

Volt - Maybe, balls would only work in the holodeck. Windows, work risks, and the general why are they on station would be why they wouldn't be allowed anywhere else.

 

My suggestion was partly a joke, seeing as if they were added, the attacks logs like I made an example of, would be the only thing that happened.

 

But imagine the hilarity...

(on disarm intent)

(x) throws a low pitch!

(y) hits the baseball!

(x) gets hit in the groin with a baseball!

and then the person who is 'x' gets disarmed/thrown to the ground in pain.