DatSamTho Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Type (e.g. Planet, Faction, System): Factions Describe this proposal in a single sentence (12 word maximum): Several minor factions that appeared during the second Revolution How will this be reflected on-station? Character backstories Does this faction/etc do anything not achieved by what already exists? In my opinion, the Tajaran factions of the civil war are a bit. . . lacking in nuance. Don't get me wrong, they're good, but with every civil war opportunists, minor groups and simple bandits take their chance, as central authority often collapses and the belligerents are not able to effectively police every part of their territory. Why should this be given to lore developers rather than remain player created lore? In my opinion, it would allow players for greater creativity when creating character backstories. Do you understand that if this is submitted, you are signing it away to the lore team, and that it's possible that it will change over time in ways that you may not forsee? Ayup. Long Description: The Black Armies of Adhomai - The Black Armies of Adhomai were anarchist militia units that sought to create a stateless liberitarian society. The movement was largely disorganised, and was in most cases quickly defeated, with the most successful, being the Black Army of Eastern Rasn'rr, which lasted from mid 2452 to late 2453. The organisation of it, was based on the establishment of the Hrrur's - highly democratic bodies made up of workers, soldiers and intellectuals from the local area instead of career politicians. In the same vein, the organisational structure of the fighting militias was democraticised, with the role of the traditional officer being replaced by a soldier elected by his peers. The Black Army of Eastern Rasn'rr was slowly chipped away at from the middle of 2453 to the final Republican winter offensive, which completely wiped it out. The Amohdan Freedom Front - The Amohdan Freedom Front, or AFF for short, was a movement with its sole goal being the creation of a free Amohdan state. The AFF from the very beginning was extremely splintered, handicapping it severely, as although every member of it agreed to a vague goal of a free Amohda, it consisted of Royalists, Democrats, Al'mariists, Hadiists, and multiple other smaller ideologies which lead to constant squabbling amongst its members, and sometimes even miniature civil wars within the movement. It isn't known when the movement first started, but with some evidence pointing to it existing even before the start of the second revolution, it is likely that it has operated since the early years of the wars, what is known though, is that the movement was rendered all but anihillated in 2459, although a handfull of partisan groups later claimed to be the rightful descendands of the AFF. Adhomai Salvation Army - The Adhomai Salvation Army was an Ultranationalist splinter group of the DPRA, viewing the DPRA as too progressive and liberal, with their own views being highly conservative, wanting to preserve the caste system by force, enforcing traditional roles on women, and near genocidal levels of xenophobia and homophobia. The Salvation Army appeared in 2458 under the leadership of Rrhazumar Jrruzhani - a former officer in the Liberation Army, who started a revolt with most of the regiment under his command, fortifying themselves in the small city of Nr'tol in the north of Rasn'rr in the anticipation that large parts of the rest of the ALA would follow, what happened instead, was a several month long siege by the ALA, leading to the eventual fall of the Salvation Army, and execution of Rrhazumar Jrruzhani. Many theorise, that due to this revolt, The Liberation Army was forced to divert troops from the defense of Ron'tul, leading to the fall of the city. Some of those ideologically loyal to the Salvation Army that survived the siege were, later integrated into the ultranationalistic parties of the DPRA. Das'nrra Republic - The Das'nrra Republic was a liberal country on the island of Das'nrra, lead by the intellectual elite of Crevus, that were already slowly pushing for reform before the Second Revolution, viewing the PRA as a country which although made good progress, was far from adequate for the people of Adhomai. The Republic started as a disorganised uprising in the city of Crevus, spurred on by the chaos of the attempted coup lead by Nated, viewing the ALA as nothing more than a military dictatorship bent on stamping out what progress the PRA made, and even though the initial coup failed, it was seen by many an inevitability that the ALA would soon rip apart the carcass of the struggling PRA, and so, in the eyes of the leadership of the Republic, the only chance for a nation for the people, by the people of Adhomai, was securing the island of Das'nrra, denying it to the ALA. The upstart revolutionaries were pushed out of the city by the garrison in less than a week, with the Republic enjoying moderate support in the countryside of the island, to which it was confined until its end by the Grand People's Army in 2453. Many of the surviving leadership of the Republic later integrated into Liberal parties of the DPRA, the most prominent of which being Rhagrrhuzau Alekseev, a cabinet member of the DPRA's Moderate Party. Government of Dolor - The Government of Dolor was perhaps one of the strangest products of the Second Revolution, it was established in 2455 from a revolution lead by a charismatic Zhan only identifying himself as "Bahir", claiming to be an avatar of both the Suns and Ma'take. The revolt was wholy unexpected, seemingly springing out of nowhere, as the rebels overran the garrisons south of the city of Dolor, wielding highly advanced small arms and heavy weapons, not of Adhomian origin. The upstart state quickly managed to secure the mines of the Din'akk Mountains, not being averse to using POW's, political prisoners, and their own citizens as slave labour. The state, although small in size and population, was able to continuously survive thanks to an influx of advanced weponry and many alien mercenaries at a scale unseen anywhere else on Adhomai. The state fell in 2457 after continued assault by PRA forces, which severely depleted them, leading to the ALA gaining an upper hand in the region, although Bahir was never found. After the end of the Second Revolution, it was discovered that the state was being propped up by Hephaestus Industries, that used it to buy massive amounts of rare minerals extracted there on the cheap, which resulted in embarassment for Hephaestus, and a souring of relations between them and most of the Adhomian factions. Edited April 18, 2021 by tomkiel
WickedCybs Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) The Black Armies niche is occupied by the Free Tajaran Council, which can be read about here https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Himeo#Free_Tajaran_Council. Maybe have them be a related entity that came into action during the Second Revolution, trying to finish what the Free Tajaran Council started in the First Revolution before being shoved out by the PRA. This could tie in to explain if they were trying to conduct any operations during the Second Revolution, as that's not really expanded on. The Amohdan Freedom Front is redundant and has oddities as an aside, like Hadiists being a part of it for some reason. Not only would the existence of a free state outside of Hadiist control be opposed, but it goes against the idea of the super culture. They would still think of it as Chaniska, which was what the island was renamed to. Amohda's factions are also already are decently expanded on given the arc over the islands political conflicts, being pro-ALA or Royalist (these mostly evacuated to the NKA though( with an active nationalist secessionist movement currently ongoing. Bit unsure of the Salvation Army. Wanting to enforce the caste system makes them pretty opposed with Al'marrism so to me it begs the question of why they would have been fighting under the ALA in the first place., it would maybe make some sense if this was restructured and they attempted to evacuate to the NKA or something, though I guess this could also be their quirk. Maybe try working something in regarding Vanguard Natediism For the Das'nrra Republic, shift it to Shastar City to have it make more sense. This would also tie it in more with the DPRA, Shastar being the capital and all. Crevus has always been pretty independent and I don't think there would be much of an uprising considering how it's been characterized. If anything, Crevus is one of the worst places as its elites grew to dislike the PRA, especially after they went after its enterprises by attempting to shut down casinos and such, which could be considered part of the Crevan culture. The Government of Dolor I need to think more about as a general concept, but having alien mercenaries fighting for a faction other than the PRA isn't going to fly at all I think. Especially that early. It was kind of a big thing that the Coalition even had to bail out the PRA late in the war and having something similar be used by a small group in the past is rather weird and would attract a ton of attention from practically everyone, but especially the DPRA which focuses on these mercenaries to kill, using it to further legitimize their platform against foreign involvement and such. Edited April 19, 2021 by WickedCybs
DatSamTho Posted April 21, 2021 Author Posted April 21, 2021 On 19/04/2021 at 14:22, WickedCybs said: The Black Armies niche is occupied by the Free Tajaran Council, which can be read about here https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Himeo#Free_Tajaran_Council. Maybe have them be a related entity that came into action during the Second Revolution, trying to finish what the Free Tajaran Council started in the First Revolution before being shoved out by the PRA. This could tie in to explain if they were trying to conduct any operations during the Second Revolution, as that's not really expanded on. The Amohdan Freedom Front is redundant and has oddities as an aside, like Hadiists being a part of it for some reason. Not only would the existence of a free state outside of Hadiist control be opposed, but it goes against the idea of the super culture. They would still think of it as Chaniska, which was what the island was renamed to. Amohda's factions are also already are decently expanded on given the arc over the islands political conflicts, being pro-ALA or Royalist (these mostly evacuated to the NKA though( with an active nationalist secessionist movement currently ongoing. Bit unsure of the Salvation Army. Wanting to enforce the caste system makes them pretty opposed with Al'marrism so to me it begs the question of why they would have been fighting under the ALA in the first place., it would maybe make some sense if this was restructured and they attempted to evacuate to the NKA or something, though I guess this could also be their quirk. Maybe try working something in regarding Vanguard Natediism For the Das'nrra Republic, shift it to Shastar City to have it make more sense. This would also tie it in more with the DPRA, Shastar being the capital and all. Crevus has always been pretty independent and I don't think there would be much of an uprising considering how it's been characterized. If anything, Crevus is one of the worst places as its elites grew to dislike the PRA, especially after they went after its enterprises by attempting to shut down casinos and such, which could be considered part of the Crevan culture. The Government of Dolor I need to think more about as a general concept, but having alien mercenaries fighting for a faction other than the PRA isn't going to fly at all I think. Especially that early. It was kind of a big thing that the Coalition even had to bail out the PRA late in the war and having something similar be used by a small group in the past is rather weird and would attract a ton of attention from practically everyone, but especially the DPRA which focuses on these mercenaries to kill, using it to further legitimize their platform against foreign involvement and such. Thanks for the feedback! I wasn't aware of the Free Tajaran Council due to it being hidden in the bowels of random lore, so thanks for filling that gap. The Salvation Army would have seceded with the ALA due to viewing the PRA as "too soft" in a way, especially disliking the state-enforced abolishment of the caste system, and since the ALA started off as a military coup, and well. . . it WASN'T the PRA, I could easily see them join in with them, only to later realise that the ALA wasn't all they thought it would be. that would make sense with what you say! It's often hard to find all the niche info of that nature. Honestly? The governmen of Dolor was a wildcard that I threw in here just for the heck of it, so it may be a bit too crazy.
WickedCybs Posted April 21, 2021 Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, tomkiel said: Thanks for the feedback! I wasn't aware of the Free Tajaran Council due to it being hidden in the bowels of random lore, so thanks for filling that gap. The Salvation Army would have seceded with the ALA due to viewing the PRA as "too soft" in a way, especially disliking the state-enforced abolishment of the caste system, and since the ALA started off as a military coup, and well. . . it WASN'T the PRA, I could easily see them join in with them, only to later realise that the ALA wasn't all they thought it would be. that would make sense with what you say! It's often hard to find all the niche info of that nature. Honestly? The governmen of Dolor was a wildcard that I threw in here just for the heck of it, so it may be a bit too crazy. Yeah, I could see it working out still. I think out of your subfactions, the Black Army being instigated by the Free Tajaran Council, Salvation Army and the Das'nrra Republic would probably have the most potential. The Free Tajaran Council should also probably be more visible somewhere so I will maybe suggest this to alb.
Alberyk Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 Doing some retconns related to the second revolution is a bit complex, since half of the second revolution happened roughly in real time; which is why the Tajaran history page timeline starts in 57. So, any new faction besides the big three would have to exist only during the early stages of the conflict. Anyway, I think we can probably use this for filling the second half of the second revolution, which is kinda lacking in events. I will see what my deputies thinks before giving a definitive answer. On 21/04/2021 at 09:19, WickedCybs said: The Free Tajaran Council should also probably be more visible somewhere so I will maybe suggest this to alb. They will get an entry in the tajaran history when I write about the factions during the first revolution.
DatSamTho Posted April 26, 2021 Author Posted April 26, 2021 On 24/04/2021 at 23:57, Alberyk said: Doing some retconns related to the second revolution is a bit complex, since half of the second revolution happened roughly in real time; which is why the Tajaran history page timeline starts in 57. So, any new faction besides the big three would have to exist only during the early stages of the conflict. Anyway, I think we can probably use this for filling the second half of the second revolution, which is kinda lacking in events. I will see what my deputies thinks before giving a definitive answer. Yep, that would work pretty well, awesome!
Alberyk Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 Sorry for the delay, but after reviewing how we want to portray the events of the early second civil war, we decided to keep the three current factions. A lot of lore, like notable character, regions, and cities, rely on these moments. So adding new entire forces would require a lot of work and retcon. While some of these ideas have been already implemented, like the Free Council in Himeo being similar to the Black Armies, we might use some of them in future developments. So I guess this is somewhat denied in being used for the early Second Revolution.
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