Staff Complaint - Melariara

[NG+7 Gael]

Another Discord staff complaint.

Discord ID: Imperial Duck#5344
Staff Discord ID: Mel#6284
Game ID: N/A
Reason for complaint: First, I was given a strike for talking/asking about why Mel was saying that those of us talking about a topic "should know better" than to talk about it, the topic in question being making fun of a pro-Nazi book. I was responding to other people who were talking to me at the time, and the only response that Mel gave was that it was political. I'd understand if it was something else, but we were literally making fun of fucking Nazis. Not an uncommon occurrence in Aurora discords. Additionally, however, by the time I was given the strike, we had already stopped talking about the book and I was just responding to other people in the Discord about why it was being called an inappropriate topic (which they were bringing up.) After pointing that out, albeit in an aggressive manner, Mel basically just said "ok" and then attempted to ban me permanently. I was talking about the strike at this point and not the book, so I really don't even know what the problem is.
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Additional remarks:

Edited July 17, 2022 by NG+7 Gael

[Garnascus]

Mel asked you to drop the conversation entirely and you did not so you got a strike. I am not sure what else to say here. The logs are pretty clear man. 

[NG+7 Gael]

8 hours ago, Garnascus said:

Mel asked you to drop the conversation entirely and you did not so you got a strike. I am not sure what else to say here. The logs are pretty clear man. 

I would understand that, but I was responding to Lily at the time, who had been talking to me about what Mel said. We weren't talking about the book, which is what Mel had said to stop talking about. So I don't know why I got a strike for responding to someone who was talking to me.

Still, even going forward with the assumption that the strike is acceptable, I don't see how a ban is, certainly not a permanent ban. My assumption is that Mel was mad that I was being aggressive and decided to go for a ban, which is just ridiculous if that's the case. Otherwise... I don't know what could have prompted that.

My only comments after the book was done being talked about that could in any way be seen as related to it were "Nazis bad," which... I mean, seriously?

Edited July 17, 2022 by NG+7 Gael

[NG+7 Gael]

Now that Mel finally figured out how to ban me:

what the fuck is this? I didn't post "literal Nazi propaganda." I didn't post any of the book. Soooo???

[NG+7 Gael]

?

[NG+7 Gael]

Here, a compilation of literally every single comment I wrote during the entire thing. Please, go ahead and show me where I "posted literal Nazi propaganda." Go ahead.

[Garnascus]

@MelariaraWhat happened between the strike and the ban? Was he supposed to be banned at first or?

[Melariara]

4 minutes ago, Garnascus said:

@MelariaraWhat happened between the strike and the ban? Was he supposed to be banned at first or?

Duck was indeed meant to be banned first, but I didn't get the command right on the bot and they left the server before I could attempt again.

[NG+7 Gael]

3 hours ago, Garnascus said:

@MelariaraWhat happened between the strike and the ban? Was he supposed to be banned at first or?

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Yeah, Mel tried to ban me almost immediately after the strike. Once again, as the logs clearly show, for something I didn't do and has yet to be explained.

Edited July 21, 2022 by NG+7 Gael

[Garnascus]

On 20/07/2022 at 19:33, Melariara said:

Duck was indeed meant to be banned first, but I didn't get the command right on the bot and they left the server before I could attempt again.

Can you go into some detail on why you banned him for posting nazi propaganda? Im just trying to understand the situation. 

[Melariara]

Originally, I had asked them to not talk about Nazi's at all and told them to drop it. They did not. The fact that they were being talked about at all is a big red flag for me considering, you know, what happened. I understand it was a book, but I'd rather not have anything like that talked about, considering I had people coming into my DMs regarding it.

[NG+7 Gael]

6 hours ago, Garnascus said:

Can you go into some detail on why you banned him for posting nazi propaganda? Im just trying to understand the situation. 

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1 hour ago, Melariara said:

Originally, I had asked them to not talk about Nazi's at all and told them to drop it. They did not. The fact that they were being talked about at all is a big red flag for me considering, you know, what happened. I understand it was a book, but I'd rather not have anything like that talked about, considering I had people coming into my DMs regarding it.

didn't post any nazi propaganda. look above.

Also, you didn't say not to talk about Nazis, you said "no political shit." If saying Nazis are bad is political then I don't even know.

Edited July 23, 2022 by NG+7 Gael

[Garnascus]

Ok, so Mel definitely told you to stop and you didn't. It doesn't matter what you where responding to or who you where talking to. You need to stop when a staff member asks you to. That being said I don't know if I see any Nazi propaganda. It seems pretty clear @NG+7 Gael was condemning Nazis with his posts. Feels like this probably should have been a strike @Melariara

[Melariara]

Throughout this entire debacle, I have been mocked by Imperial Duck consistently. Being told to Eff off, <--- this part right here. They left to avoid a ban.

 

But okay.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Melariara
additional information given.

[Melariara]

1 hour ago, Garnascus said:

Feels like this probably should have been a strike @Melariara

Addendum, this would still be a third strike and thus a ban regardless.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Melariara

[Garnascus]

Quote

Addendum, this would still be a third strike and thus a ban regardless.

Oooooh, that part makes more sense. I did not know they where on two previous strikes. I did not see that first screenshot either. @NG+7 Gael Based on what Mel has just posted I do really think you earned your ban here. When a player receives three strikes the bot automatically bans them. You will probably need to appeal this. In my mind posting "nazi propaganda" would be someone supporting the regime or something so i MIGHT be convinced the wording is a little off but that does not change the outcome at all here. 

[NG+7 Gael]

whatever, I'm done. no fucking point in trying between this and haydizzle's thing. idek what you mean I have 3 strikes, I have one from haydizzle (a strike which I'm still contesting) and this one.
I'm not going to fucking apologize for saying 'nazis bad' because it's """political""". Especially not after reading dumbass shit like it's "red flags." Are you fucking kidding.

 

19 hours ago, Melariara said:

Throughout this entire debacle, I have been mocked by Imperial Duck consistently. Being told to Eff off, <--- this part right here. They left to avoid a ban.

this is basically just saying "it was personal".
Also I never told you to fuck off. Ironically, despite the fact that I was mocking you at other times, the quoted part was not, in fact, me mocking you. That was just a statement. But yes, I have been mocking you because getting mad over someone saying 'nazis bad' is incredibly fucking stupid.

Edited July 24, 2022 by NG+7 Gael

[Melariara]

1 hour ago, NG+7 Gael said:

idek what you mean I have 3 strikes, I have one from haydizzle (a strike which I'm still contesting) and this one.

You have Haydizzle's, the first one I gave you, then if this ban were to be lifted and replaced with a strike, that's three.

[NG+7 Gael]

5 minutes ago, Melariara said:

You have Haydizzle's, the first one I gave you, then if this ban were to be lifted and replaced with a strike, that's three.

@Garnascus correct me if I'm wrong but this doesn't sound right. Why would the ban be replaced with a strike? I wasn't on two previous strikes, I had one from Haydizzle and one from Mel. The "third" one doesn't exist.

[Garnascus]

Mel opted to just ban you instead of placing the strike. There is nothing wrong with her doing that. This complaint is now closed. You will need to appeal the ban.