Confused rock Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) BYOND Key: The unloved rock Staff BYOND Key: Mattatlass Game ID: N/A Reason for complaint: This is of course a complaint about me being permanently banned for "Extremely creepy behaviour towards a few players", a ban I received in the middle of the night with no other context. From what I gather, this is related to my character, Hossl Suazra, being sexist. The issue I see with this is that I was never even told there was a problem with my behavior. I was never even warned before jumping to a permaban that they don't want me to come back from. I thought I was playing a character in accordance with Unathi lore, and nothing ever told me otherwise. I didn't have people telling me OOC that they were uncomfortable with it, so why should I have? The only well-intentioned reason I can think of permanently ban me for such a vague reason, is that the admins are assuming this "creepy behaviour" is an intentional OOC thing that I think is acceptable. To that I say, absolutely not! I was trying to play a character. If I understood people were uncomfortable, I would stop. I care about creating interesting characters others will enjoy interacting with. Because I was permabanned in my sleep, instead of talked to by admins (or even given a ban I was meant to appeal) I never knew I was doing anything wrong until it was too late. I don't even know what baystation precedent the ban refers to. If it's relevant, I should've been warned about it. Been years since I played bay (to a significant extent where I ever interacted with admins), but I never remember getting in trouble for being "creepy". Evidence/logs/etc: Spoiler Additional remarks: I'm not sure how many admins were involved with this, or even if I'm supposed to be able to make a complaint about it. But if you insist that this ban is ideal and I have no place in the server, please just say that. I don't need to see several posts about everything "creepy" I've ever said. I'd rather have seen that before I got banned. Edited March 18, 2023 by Confused rock made more specific about when I last played bay
MattAtlas Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Confused rock said: what I gather, this is related to my character, Hossl Suazra, being sexist. It isn't. 15 minutes ago, Confused rock said: I didn't have people telling me OOC that they were uncomfortable with it, so why should I have? They told us instead. 15 minutes ago, Confused rock said: an intentional OOC thing that I think is acceptable. To that I say, absolutely not! I don't believe this. 15 minutes ago, Confused rock said: I was permabanned in my sleep, instead of talked to by admins There is nothing to discuss with you. Your actions speak for themselves. 16 minutes ago, Confused rock said: But if you insist that this ban is ideal and I have no place in the server, please just say that. I don't need to see several posts about everything "creepy" I've ever said. I'd rather have seen that before I got banned. Correct on all counts.
Confused rock Posted March 18, 2023 Author Posted March 18, 2023 Well, I have little else to say on the matter. Seems clear to me that you shouldn't immediately assume the worst in players and not even consider discussing it with them.
Confused rock Posted March 20, 2023 Author Posted March 20, 2023 I guess I do have something to say about it, actually. I got DMs from Triogenix about this in regards to my unathi whitelist, which I can no longer reply to because I got banned from the discords. Wasn't sure if I should factor them in or not yet because this is a separate staff action, but I guess I should. Assuming this is about the same thing (which it can't be entirely, because I still don't know what the baystation precedent is supposed to be), then I still mean what I said earlier- I had no idea at the time anyone was uncomfortable with it OOC, nor have I ever known people to be uncomfortable with things I say, nor have I been warned for them. I was trying to play some guy being goofy with his friends and making a bad joke. Didn't think anyone was more than annoyed IC with it. Above all, I was not trying to intentionally make others uncomfortable, and it is rude and unfair to assume such. Aurorastation really means a lot to me, it's unfair that I cannot appeal at all due to an assumption of bad faith, without even talking to me about it, and giving me any second chance. The fact I couldn't even appeal in a year or more pains me. I don't think you should assume the worst of me when I'm just learning about my mistake for the first time.
Garnascus Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 Sorry man, not gonna happen. Reason being is i read the logs and your behavior was definitely over the line. I spoke with Bay's current headmin and you had a similar pattern of behavior over there. It is true that you have no history of such behavior on our server but frankly, that doesnt matter. We are not comfortable in letting you play here. Complaint closed.
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