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BYOND Key: LynxSolstice
Staff BYOND Key: A_Big_Bear
Game ID: Unsure
Reason for complaint: I disagree with my most recent ban including powergaming as a reason for the ban, while the lack of FearRP and arguably the Validhunting can and probably should be upheld as correct, I feel that my OOC conduct did not constitute powergaming. So what had happened is that there was a hostage situation, I responded to as a security officer, and there was a weldertank bomb. I made a few IC comments with bravado (the reason for the "Not afraid of explosions" bravado comment was that my character was injured in an artillery strike before, in his lore) at the time, regarding disinterest in the threat of the bomb, (which is where the valid lack of FearRP comes in I think) and then I turned to leave, before turning back and making a quick, impulsive decision to drag the tank (this is arguably the validhunting part), I managed to ctrl+click the tank before it exploded, and made no attempt to stand inbetween the tank and the shooter to "block the lasers" as I stated ICly later as my reason I tried doing anything with the bomb. However I failed to explain to Bear that despite my IC explanation regarding laser penetration and how I was "trying to get in front of the bomb before the hostage taker could shoot the tank" my actual OOC and IC action were not to step in front of the bomb and powergame that the lasers wouldn't penetrate, it was merely an IC explanation so I didn't just say "Uhh, I don't know why I did that" because I was super impulsive and ran to drag the tank away. I'm sorry that I attempted to drag away the bomb and didn't respect what it meant, RP wise, but that's an issue with lack of FearRP. I didn't take advantage of the mechanics of the game at any point, I merely made a mistake in trying to drag away the tank and my IC comments were taken as OOC fact.
Evidence/logs/etc: Attached in order are: My original attempt at explaining to Bear after the fact in DMs about the situation, where I was told they do not discuss tickets out of game as a rule of thumb, an image that shows my postion at the time of the explosion (Above the bomb because I was attempting to drag it away, the antag was in the bottom right, so I was not in position, nor trying to be in position to 'Block the lasers', and a video of the entire situation from start to finish, where you can see me make the bravado comments, and then the attempt to drag the welderbomb away.
Additional remarks: I'm just hoping I can get the powergaming part of the ticket/ban lifted from my record because it really was not intended, nor was, powergaming. It was merely me being an idiot and trying to drag the welder tank away in a stressful situation that I fucked up. I'm really trying to show that I'm attempting my hardest to improve my over-focus on mechanics and I'm just sad that this situation was misread due to my stupid hasty IC comments about bullets and lasers and shit

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Edited by LynxSolstice
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You intentionally entered an area during antag's gimmick next to a welder tank which he was using as a bomb. I believe it is quite obvious in your own video , that you had intended to drag the tank away from the area, for there is little other reason to approach it in an armed confrontation with a man who has a gun.. I am sorry, I do not believe the quotes you ICly stated about using your body to block lasers were exempt from your entire rationale. Even if we removed them, it is still incredibly poor escalation and power gaming to try and sprint/drag a bomb away from someone who is either typing or not willing to escalate to such a level first. You have many notes/warnings about power gaming and escalation, along with previous bans for other offenses, the escalation was thus another temporary ban. 

That is about all I have to say/add until the staff handling this complaint weighs in.

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Hi. From what I can see on this complaint, you did just try to drag away the welderbomb and even admitted fault in your own screenshots, with a video for evidence of you doing it. The only thing to note here is that I think this constitutes as metagaming, and not powergaming. At least in the context of trying to bodyblock lasers. I will see about getting the wording changed. Otherwise I don't really see any problems with what Bear did here. If anything given your history he was rather lenient with only giving you a temporary ban.

If there's nothing else, I will close this complaint soon.

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But I never attempted to body block the lasers, it was a statement made up entirely to try and scramble to say anything about why ICly I tried to fuck with the welderbomb that wasn't just "I just did it out of an impulse in the moment, I don't know why I did it"

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I fucked up by disregarding fear RP but I'm trying to fix the powergaming issues which stemmed from treating extended rounds, and secret rounds differently, I've only recently started treating both as just extended, because things like the ammo economy (in reference to the warning about the autolathe) are important for round balance, I'm really trying to move on from being a mechanics over-focuser who just does anything to try and pre-prepare mechanically, because it's just shitter behavior

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