Secret Gamemode changes

[Arbiter_Ambrose]

Unlocking gamemodes currently behind vote to secret may give a bit more variety, techomancer raider and borer come to mind, they are both relatively lower population but still significant threats depending on how it is handled by the antagonists, and both have many mechanics that they don't generally get to see often, though borer is a bit buggy it does function last I saw.

On the topic of removal, revenant might want to be cut from the voting pool, atleast until it is fixed very meekly possibly since it is broken.

This is a suggestion because stuff like this can only be changed through people with the server configs like arrow. 

[dessysalta]

Most game modes are available to roll in secret and the ones that aren't are locked to a certain amount of pop (jockeys and techno for instance).

Revenant is unique as well in that it pulls antagonists thirty minutes after round start as ghost roles, not roundstart spawns. Revenant in general is an abandoned mode even worse than techno iirc.

Raider technos would be cool to see for once.

[Arbiter_Ambrose]

11 hours ago, dessysalta said:

Most game modes are available to roll in secret and the ones that aren't are locked to a certain amount of pop (jockeys and techno for instance).

Revenant is unique as well in that it pulls antagonists thirty minutes after round start as ghost roles, not roundstart spawns. Revenant in general is an abandoned mode even worse than techno iirc.

Raider technos would be cool to see for once.

I personally think the IDEA of revenant is interesting, but I understand that it could be less enjoyed, it is why I suggested removing it in case it never does get fixed, also jockey and techno roll in secret? I am not sure what the first sentence is trying to say.

[dessysalta]

15 hours ago, Arbiter_Ambrose said:

also jockey and techno roll in secret?

Only at fifteen players or less iirc.

[Jasorn]

The current direction of antagging seems to be moving towards a "freeform" style. Rather than specific gamemodes we're letting individual or group antags pick what type they want to be or w/e, create their own gimmick. Example being the traitor uplink letting you become vampire/ling/loner etc. or the new PR Fabian posted here: https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/23182

[Arbiter_Ambrose]

11 hours ago, Jasorn said:

The current direction of antagging seems to be moving towards a "freeform" style. Rather than specific gamemodes we're letting individual or group antags pick what type they want to be or w/e, create their own gimmick. Example being the traitor uplink letting you become vampire/ling/loner etc. or the new PR Fabian posted here: https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/23182

Yes, I understand how this is COUUULD apply to techoraider but it doesn't really since it has different type of vibe it would need different pop amounts to current gamemodes, same with borer. I agree with the sentiment though.

13 hours ago, dessysalta said:

Only at fifteen players or less iirc.

I still don't see your point, also jockey can spawn at higher pop with more jockeys.

[Sniblet]

In the OP, “technomancer raider and borer come to mind” reads like asking technomancer, raider, and borer to be added to secret. Technomancer and raider are already in secret, which I think is the cause of confusion here. I don’t know where jockey came in.

Raider-techno, or magistake, is not in secret. I think that’s meant to be because it’s OP or too chaotic or something? Which is hard to picture in the same server that runs secret mercs.

[Arbiter_Ambrose]

1 hour ago, Sniblet said:

In the OP, “technomancer raider and borer come to mind” reads like asking technomancer, raider, and borer to be added to secret. Technomancer and raider are already in secret, which I think is the cause of confusion here. I don’t know where jockey came in.

Raider-techno, or magistake, is not in secret. I think that’s meant to be because it’s OP or too chaotic or something? Which is hard to picture in the same server that runs secret mercs.

It is possible it confused people, I thought the sentence was clarified enough at the time but yea, I don't really see a issue given what we permit already, technomancer has many abilities and often doesn't get to use the ability to be in a group so it might be interesting to have it happen more often.