IPCs should get their own unique language.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

I support this idea only if the language sounds to everyone else like beeps and boops.

IPC Greg beeps, "Beep boop. Boop beep beep boop bleep bloop beep boop beep."

[Dreamix]

How about 'shells'? Would only TV-heads have this language? How about shells that are basically a brain with all-body prosthetics?

[Dreamix]

How about 'shells'? Would only TV-heads have this language? How about shells that are basically a brain with all-body prosthetics?

[Shadow]

I agree and disagree at the same time. At the moment IPCs are overpowered. They can look like other races and can survive as posi when the body got destroyed. They can even repair themselves with nanopaste. I am against adding their own language at the moment.

[Shadow]

I agree and disagree at the same time. At the moment IPCs are overpowered. They can look like other races and can survive as posi when the body got destroyed. They can even repair themselves with nanopaste. I am against adding their own language at the moment.

[Reyjakai]

I agree and disagree at the same time. At the moment IPCs are overpowered. They can look like other races and can survive as posi when the body got destroyed. They can even repair themselves with nanopaste. I am against adding their own language at the moment.

For what reason? This would actually help those who can't tell, as only IPCs will start beep booping to each other. If you see a Tajaran beep booping, everybody will instantly know, "Oh, that's a robot."

Additionally, why would that be a reason to deny something that /all/ other races have? Are IPCs not worth giving their own language to simply because more work has been put into them to give them more avenues of RP? This is heavy RP, it's not meant to be combat oriented. Do you know how fast an IPC's leg is taken off with a laser rifle/pistol? It takes 2-3 shots and they're out of the fight permanently.

[Reyjakai]

I agree and disagree at the same time. At the moment IPCs are overpowered. They can look like other races and can survive as posi when the body got destroyed. They can even repair themselves with nanopaste. I am against adding their own language at the moment.

For what reason? This would actually help those who can't tell, as only IPCs will start beep booping to each other. If you see a Tajaran beep booping, everybody will instantly know, "Oh, that's a robot."

Additionally, why would that be a reason to deny something that /all/ other races have? Are IPCs not worth giving their own language to simply because more work has been put into them to give them more avenues of RP? This is heavy RP, it's not meant to be combat oriented. Do you know how fast an IPC's leg is taken off with a laser rifle/pistol? It takes 2-3 shots and they're out of the fight permanently.

[Shadow]

Yes, that's why I said I agree and disagree at the same time. Yes, they deserve their own language, it's just my personal opinion that they are overpowered.

[Shadow]

Yes, that's why I said I agree and disagree at the same time. Yes, they deserve their own language, it's just my personal opinion that they are overpowered.

[Frances]

why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language?

That actually raises some valid concerns. I was under the impression that IPCs by design did not have a proper culture or identity. While I've seen several IPCs form bonds of kinship, I think part of their appeal is that they're these "ronins" of the sci-fi world, that can adapt to other ideas and cultures but struggle to form an identity of their own.

Other races having their own languages does bring more gameplay mechanics, but above all, it makes sense from a worldbuilding perspective (as they all come from different origins). I'm afraid IPCs having their "unique" language would bring them closer to being a reskin of other races. If a language for them is added, it would be better if it served a clear, strongly-defined purpose.

If you simply give them their own language because you can it brings them one step closer to being "robot people".

[Frances]

why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language?

That actually raises some valid concerns. I was under the impression that IPCs by design did not have a proper culture or identity. While I've seen several IPCs form bonds of kinship, I think part of their appeal is that they're these "ronins" of the sci-fi world, that can adapt to other ideas and cultures but struggle to form an identity of their own.

Other races having their own languages does bring more gameplay mechanics, but above all, it makes sense from a worldbuilding perspective (as they all come from different origins). I'm afraid IPCs having their "unique" language would bring them closer to being a reskin of other races. If a language for them is added, it would be better if it served a clear, strongly-defined purpose.

If you simply give them their own language because you can it brings them one step closer to being "robot people".

[Guest]

I happen to disagree. IPCs are radically much more different than the other races.

I've no idea why they have the capability to look cosmetically like any other race, though, I personally believe the premise is way too silly and shells probably shouldn't have happened now that I think about it. The paint's nice, I guess...

 

Morse code could work, and would work more efficiently than binary,

-- .- -.- .. -. --. / .. - / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .-.. .. -.- . / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. / -... . / -- --- .-. . / ... .--. .- -.-. . -....- . ..-. ..-. .. -.-. .. . -. - --..-- / .- -. -.. / -.-. --- ..- .-.. -.. / .... .- ...- . / .- / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .- .--. .--. .-.. .. . -.. / - --- / .. - .-.-.- / .... --- .-- . ...- . .-. --..-- / - .... . / .. ... ... ..- . / .-- .. - .... / -.. .. .-. . -.-. - / -.-. --- -.. . ... / .. ... / - .... .- - / .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- / -..-. .- -. -.-- --- -. . -..-. / -.-. .- -. / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / .. - --..-- / . ...- . -. / .. ..-. / - .... . -.-- / -.. --- -. .----. - / -.- -. --- .-- / - .... . / .-.. .- -. --. ..- .- --. . --..-- / ...- .. .- / -.-. --- .--. -.-- .--. .- ... - .- .-.-.-

 

However, the issue with binary/morse code, is that if we make it a code already established in real life, anyone could translate it via copypasta, which defeats the purpose.

Of course, we could use a code that not many people know, but that just panders to the people who do know it.

4c 69 6b 65 20 68 65 78 61 64 65 63 69 6d 61 6c 2c 20 70 65 72 68 61 70 73 2e

 

This is actually genius and much less clunky. I mean, either would do, it saves room and doesn't spam a ton like binary does.

[Guest]

I happen to disagree. IPCs are radically much more different than the other races.

I've no idea why they have the capability to look cosmetically like any other race, though, I personally believe the premise is way too silly and shells probably shouldn't have happened now that I think about it. The paint's nice, I guess...

 

Morse code could work, and would work more efficiently than binary,

-- .- -.- .. -. --. / .. - / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .-.. .. -.- . / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. / -... . / -- --- .-. . / ... .--. .- -.-. . -....- . ..-. ..-. .. -.-. .. . -. - --..-- / .- -. -.. / -.-. --- ..- .-.. -.. / .... .- ...- . / .- / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .- .--. .--. .-.. .. . -.. / - --- / .. - .-.-.- / .... --- .-- . ...- . .-. --..-- / - .... . / .. ... ... ..- . / .-- .. - .... / -.. .. .-. . -.-. - / -.-. --- -.. . ... / .. ... / - .... .- - / .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- / -..-. .- -. -.-- --- -. . -..-. / -.-. .- -. / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / .. - --..-- / . ...- . -. / .. ..-. / - .... . -.-- / -.. --- -. .----. - / -.- -. --- .-- / - .... . / .-.. .- -. --. ..- .- --. . --..-- / ...- .. .- / -.-. --- .--. -.-- .--. .- ... - .- .-.-.-

 

However, the issue with binary/morse code, is that if we make it a code already established in real life, anyone could translate it via copypasta, which defeats the purpose.

Of course, we could use a code that not many people know, but that just panders to the people who do know it.

4c 69 6b 65 20 68 65 78 61 64 65 63 69 6d 61 6c 2c 20 70 65 72 68 61 70 73 2e

 

This is actually genius and much less clunky. I mean, either would do, it saves room and doesn't spam a ton like binary does.

[Reyjakai]

How about 'shells'? Would only TV-heads have this language? How about shells that are basically a brain with all-body prosthetics?

 

Look at Katelynn, for example. I would have been fine having access to Sol common /instead/ of the IPC's language, as my character's backstory is based around them being born and raised on earth, then becoming a cyborg. However, that idea got stuck down, so she magically /forgot/ the language that she grew up speaking, instead suddenly knowing tradeband? Makes sense. This is the second best option.

 

If a language for them is added, it would be better if it served a clear, strongly-defined purpose.

If you simply give them their own language because you can it brings them one step closer to being "robot people".

 

Have they ever been anything other than robot people? Only with jackfractal's update of IPCs and IPC lore were they made anything different. There is a sense of community between IPCs, even if it's significantly different than it is for the other races. It's a sign of common heritage, more than anything.

[Reyjakai]

How about 'shells'? Would only TV-heads have this language? How about shells that are basically a brain with all-body prosthetics?

 

Look at Katelynn, for example. I would have been fine having access to Sol common /instead/ of the IPC's language, as my character's backstory is based around them being born and raised on earth, then becoming a cyborg. However, that idea got stuck down, so she magically /forgot/ the language that she grew up speaking, instead suddenly knowing tradeband? Makes sense. This is the second best option.

 

If a language for them is added, it would be better if it served a clear, strongly-defined purpose.

If you simply give them their own language because you can it brings them one step closer to being "robot people".

 

Have they ever been anything other than robot people? Only with jackfractal's update of IPCs and IPC lore were they made anything different. There is a sense of community between IPCs, even if it's significantly different than it is for the other races. It's a sign of common heritage, more than anything.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language?

That actually raises some valid concerns. I was under the impression that IPCs by design did not have a proper culture or identity. While I've seen several IPCs form bonds of kinship, I think part of their appeal is that they're these "ronins" of the sci-fi world, that can adapt to other ideas and cultures but struggle to form an identity of their own.

Other races having their own languages does bring more gameplay mechanics, but above all, it makes sense from a worldbuilding perspective (as they all come from different origins). I'm afraid IPCs having their "unique" language would bring them closer to being a reskin of other races. If a language for them is added, it would be better if it served a clear, strongly-defined purpose.

If you simply give them their own language because you can it brings them one step closer to being "robot people".

 

This is a valid counter-proposal, one I didn't properly think on. I'm going to look really fleety and change my mind; a unique language is not the best idea after all.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language?

That actually raises some valid concerns. I was under the impression that IPCs by design did not have a proper culture or identity. While I've seen several IPCs form bonds of kinship, I think part of their appeal is that they're these "ronins" of the sci-fi world, that can adapt to other ideas and cultures but struggle to form an identity of their own.

Other races having their own languages does bring more gameplay mechanics, but above all, it makes sense from a worldbuilding perspective (as they all come from different origins). I'm afraid IPCs having their "unique" language would bring them closer to being a reskin of other races. If a language for them is added, it would be better if it served a clear, strongly-defined purpose.

If you simply give them their own language because you can it brings them one step closer to being "robot people".

 

This is a valid counter-proposal, one I didn't properly think on. I'm going to look really fleety and change my mind; a unique language is not the best idea after all.

[Dreamix]

why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language?

That actually raises some valid concerns. I was under the impression that IPCs by design did not have a proper culture or identity. While I've seen several IPCs form bonds of kinship, I think part of their appeal is that they're these "ronins" of the sci-fi world, that can adapt to other ideas and cultures but struggle to form an identity of their own.

(...)

This.

How about 'shells'? Would only TV-heads have this language? How about shells that are basically a brain with all-body prosthetics?

Look at Katelynn, for example. I would have been fine having access to Sol common /instead/ of the IPC's language, as my character's backstory is based around them being born and raised on earth, then becoming a cyborg. However, that idea got stuck down, so she magically /forgot/ the language that she grew up speaking, instead suddenly knowing tradeband? Makes sense. This is the second best option.

Yes, Katelynn is what I originally meant.

So, what does Katelynn (a cyborg that was human before her accident), one of my fully-NT androids, one random line model robot made by Hephaistus industries, and a totally random bespoke unit have in common?

Language? That's just... Does not make any sense, and would be really problematic. Everyone (different company's, different makers, in different times) just universally agreed to program their robots to use this language? Would station-bound borgs be able to hear AND speak in this language?

For human-like races it makes sense, they all came from the same planet, whether it's Terra or Adhomai.

Also:

There is a sense of community between IPCs, even if it's significantly different than it is for the other races. It's a sign of common heritage, more than anything.

...Are you saying that all IPC's have something in common, something more than being a member of the IPC/Shell race? I think it is quite the opposite, I actually saw TV-heads show that they are disgusted that other synthetic units try to 'pose' as an organic being (synthetic skin and stuff). Hell, I even saw human-like, organic crew being disgusted that IPC's try to be a human or a tajara.

So yeah, no.

So (for example, of course), your cyborg is not even a little similar to my TV-heads.

[Dreamix]

why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language?

That actually raises some valid concerns. I was under the impression that IPCs by design did not have a proper culture or identity. While I've seen several IPCs form bonds of kinship, I think part of their appeal is that they're these "ronins" of the sci-fi world, that can adapt to other ideas and cultures but struggle to form an identity of their own.

(...)

This.

How about 'shells'? Would only TV-heads have this language? How about shells that are basically a brain with all-body prosthetics?

Look at Katelynn, for example. I would have been fine having access to Sol common /instead/ of the IPC's language, as my character's backstory is based around them being born and raised on earth, then becoming a cyborg. However, that idea got stuck down, so she magically /forgot/ the language that she grew up speaking, instead suddenly knowing tradeband? Makes sense. This is the second best option.

Yes, Katelynn is what I originally meant.

So, what does Katelynn (a cyborg that was human before her accident), one of my fully-NT androids, one random line model robot made by Hephaistus industries, and a totally random bespoke unit have in common?

Language? That's just... Does not make any sense, and would be really problematic. Everyone (different company's, different makers, in different times) just universally agreed to program their robots to use this language? Would station-bound borgs be able to hear AND speak in this language?

For human-like races it makes sense, they all came from the same planet, whether it's Terra or Adhomai.

Also:

There is a sense of community between IPCs, even if it's significantly different than it is for the other races. It's a sign of common heritage, more than anything.

...Are you saying that all IPC's have something in common, something more than being a member of the IPC/Shell race? I think it is quite the opposite, I actually saw TV-heads show that they are disgusted that other synthetic units try to 'pose' as an organic being (synthetic skin and stuff). Hell, I even saw human-like, organic crew being disgusted that IPC's try to be a human or a tajara.

So yeah, no.

So (for example, of course), your cyborg is not even a little similar to my TV-heads.

[Guest]

Honestly, why don't they just have universal translators, but they can't synthesize specific speech, like cyborgs?

[Guest]

Honestly, why don't they just have universal translators, but they can't synthesize specific speech, like cyborgs?

[TechnoKat]

just get a binary code translator and speak with other ipcs with it.

[TechnoKat]

just get a binary code translator and speak with other ipcs with it.

[Guest]

You can't speak in binary translators, they only translate what the ai's are doing in binary.

Not all computers can talk the same languages.

I am not giving the currently most op race the ability to understand everyone.

[Guest]

You can't speak in binary translators, they only translate what the ai's are doing in binary.

Not all computers can talk the same languages.

I am not giving the currently most op race the ability to understand everyone.