Varuca security ban

[Guest]

What, I didn't say anything?

 

I've got it on a screenshot. And others saw it. It too was reported. Just don't make things up like this again, Ever. Any lieing won't make shite better, too.

Fuck, maaaaan.

[Dreamix]

If we're already barring bug people from being head of staff (Again for good reason), It won't seem hard for Nanotrasen to be just "Well if we can't trust these damn insectoids to manage crew, what makes us think we can trust them to GUARD people's lives?"

Think about it

 

It also wouldn't be hard to say "If we can't trust these damn insectoids to manage crew, what makes us thing we can trust them to make sure our space station's engine doesn't EXPLODE/research WEAPONS and BOMBS/perform SURGERY on living crewmembers/cook us FOOD!!!"

This logic could've applied to any race when we had a lot more restrictive Head of Staff roles, not too long ago. But we never did that. Why in God's name would we start now? Because of a handful of rubbish Vaurca players? I think not.

When you see an unathi security officer (or a head of staff, or whoever), you think it may even possibly be safe to stay around him, as he had the cadet, security and law training, and that despite the tightened/rough requirements for a xeno to be hired, he actually got the job. He was also evaluated and examined by the DO's many times, to check if he's not a terrorist or anything. The ligger's probably working with NanoTrasen for years, if not tens of years.

And then you look at a Vaurca, and wonder who's idea was to hire it.

 

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I exaggerate little, and no more than those who want to see Vaurca banned from security, jumping from poorly constructed and excused IC platforms. People seem to fail to realize that the bad apple Vaurca players will act aggressive and retarded no matter what role they are in. Banning them from security won't make your problems go away. Also, if their aggressiveness was canon (Which it isn't) then what would stop them from being aggressive in science or other departments? The fallacious argument that Vaurca should be banned from security is a misdirection of our efforts, and is a gap in logic.

If I'm reading it correctly (and what I think):

People don't want Vaurca to be banned from security roles just because there's a few bad officers out there.

People want Vaurca to be banned from security roles because according to the role, they can't be trusted, are bad etc. And shouldn't be working on NanoTrasen's stations at all. The bad Vaurca officers problem is sort-of a coincidence, and just another reason for the Vaurca to be banned from security roles.

[LordFowl]

Except some of these aggressive actions have happened on extended rounds, thereby making them canon, so it's not like NT doesn't know.

Also, saying that it isn't canon so it shouldn't be punished makes no sense. If Security starts executing people regularly, but only on non-extended rounds, then I guess we can't punish those people either.

 

I will never consider characters that break the lore to any excessive point to be canon in any fashion. Furthermore, non-canon events cannot be punished with canon punishments. Following your example, if security were to start executing people regularly, but only on non-extended rounds, then they CANNOT be punished ICly (Except in that round), for example by DOs. They can only be punished by OoC means such as player complaints and ban requests.

Removing Vaurca from security is at this point being masked as an IC decision, and thus cannot be based off of non-canon or even roughly canon occurences. That there are players disrupting the canon with their lorebreaking characters is an issue that needs to be resolved through OoC means.

As for your point, Dreamix, I agree that the Vaurca lore is rubbish in terms of why they're employed. But restricting each Vaurca to janitor because that's logically the only role they could fill is not particularly fun for Vaurca players. The lifeblood of this game is is diverse pool of occupations, and scenarios that derive from those occupations. Restricting Vaurca arbitrarily from those occupations will only make people less inclined to play Vaurca, favouring other races and debasing the unique opportunities that Vaurca could experience.

Ultimately, the solution for this circumstance is abundantly clear;

1) Strip the whitelists of bad-apple Vaurca players, and restore balance to the canon.

2) Rework the Vaurca lore. Covert0ddity's lore is fundamentally flawed, and we should not be adverse to changing and fixing it.

[Guest]

2) Rework the Vaurca lore. Covert0ddity's lore is fundamentally flawed, and we should not be adverse to changing and fixing it.

 

How? It was never finished nor were any notable additions made to it.