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LetzShake

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I noticed recently in a ban appeal someone (Launch-Box) seemed to have a full list of staff notes about themselves.


Is there somewhere we can actually access our notes? If not, how did he get them? Because I'd be curious to see mine, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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Player notes are not publicly accessible and anything in your notes will be things that we've informed you that you've done wrong. We don't just add something without saying something to you. Launch-Box's notes were told to him to justify the ban, in the event that a player has repeatedly offended and that's used to increase the ban-length/punishment than it'll be mentioned that the player has a history that justifies increased measures.

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Interesting.


Is it possible for players to ask to see their own notes?


I mean, I'm sure it is. But is it ethical?

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Interesting.


Is it possible for players to ask to see their own notes?


I mean, I'm sure it is. But is it ethical?

We won't release your notes unless we have to (to prove a point, if you want to contest behavior you've been accused of), because otherwise we run at a risk of everybody wanting to see their notes so they can laugh at incidents they've racked up. (That's a staff-only privilege, I'm afraid.)


What we can do, however, is look at your notes, and give you a general idea of where you're currently standing, behavior-wise. As well as any suggestions as to how to improve, if improvement is needed.

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Interesting.


Is it possible for players to ask to see their own notes?


I mean, I'm sure it is. But is it ethical?

We won't release your notes unless we have to (to prove a point, if you want to contest behavior you've been accused of), because otherwise we run at a risk of everybody wanting to see their notes so they can laugh at incidents they've racked up. (That's a staff-only privilege, I'm afraid.)


What we can do, however, is look at your notes, and give you a general idea of where you're currently standing, behavior-wise. As well as any suggestions as to how to improve, if improvement is needed.

 


Oo. Then I'd like that, if possible. I mean I feel like I'm good, except getting into arguments over early ending rounds fairly often. <.<


But I'd like to know if I'm getting annoying so I can steer myself back to the path of righteousness and I'm sure many others would.

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Oo. Then I'd like that, if possible. I mean I feel like I'm good, except getting into arguments over early ending rounds fairly often. <.<


But I'd like to know if I'm getting annoying so I can steer myself back to the path of righteousness and I'm sure many others would.

Information sent by PM.


If anybody else would like to know their standing, btw, no need to post here. Just send me a PM, asking "Can you tell me about my notes?" or something such.

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If you ask to see your notes, we have no reason to withhold them. Just ask, and you shall receive.

Except that's not what I've said.

We won't release your notes unless we have to (to prove a point, if you want to contest behavior you've been accused of), because otherwise we run at a risk of everybody wanting to see their notes so they can laugh at incidents they've racked up. (That's a staff-only privilege, I'm afraid.)


What we can do, however, is look at your notes, and give you a general idea of where you're currently standing, behavior-wise. As well as any suggestions as to how to improve, if improvement is needed.

There's a reason why we shouldn't release notes as a whim, which is that a lot of people will want to see them out of sheer curiosity (a la "hmm, I wonder what sort of mischiefs I've racked up over the years"). To avoid a bunch of purposeless requests, which will generate a lot of work for little more than an user's personal (and often misdirected) amusement, I find it more appropriate to stick to releasing "behavior summaries".


Which means that players that just want to laugh at funny shit they did can go look elsewhere, while we can still meet the requests of players seeking genuine improvement.

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There's absolutely no reason to withhold someone's notes though. It's something they should be welcome to check at any time. Withholding the notes from a player who has asked - no matter the intent - is a bit of a dick move. If people want to wave their notes about, that's their choice. Shouldn't restrict them from asking.

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There's absolutely no reason to withhold someone's notes though. It's something they should be welcome to check at any time. Withholding the notes from a player who has asked - no matter the intent - is a bit of a dick move. If people want to wave their notes about, that's their choice. Shouldn't restrict them from asking.

You don't seem to be getting the point of my post.


If we make notes available on request, some people will want to see them for shits and giggles. To avoid that becoming popular (and causing us a lot of work), I'd prefer we actually take the time to sit down with the player and give them a summary of their notes, along with recommendations on what sort of behavior they need to improve (if any).


This isn't a "dick move", this is actually better for users who seek genuine improvement, while weeding out stupid requests.

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We don't just add something without saying something to you.

 

I have a note on me for a character groping Tina and describing it in a questionably detailed fashion. Tina resisted, and even pushed her off, but I have the note on my account regardless.



Edit because I forgot to add one very important detail: Nobody said anything to me about the incident.

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