Wrapping paper and large items.

[Kazkin]

Recently I discovered via being threatened banning that using wrapping paper to pack large items for bag carrying is apparently a bug. Examplse being:

 

• Voidsuits can't be put in satchels/bags, a wrapped voidsuit that has been packaged can be put into your bag/satchel.
  
  A mining drill can't be put in satchels/industrial bags, a wrapped drill can be stuck in a bag.
  
  A shotgun won't fit in your bag unless packaged and wrapped.

 

Apparently this has been an issue for months and considered a bug by our admins. After contacting bay coders and people who know what they are doing apparently its a w_class confusion. A voidsuit should become a lumpy package and be unable to fit in a bag. Where as a shotgun or drill should become a standard package so it can fit into a bag. Lumpy packages are used by cargo to send large single items through the chutes, but not for much else barring hiding an item from a casual glance.

My question is this, should we change it so voidsuits become lumpy packages and can't be carried around OR should we leave it as is.

Things to consider:

 

• Positive: Miners and proffessions that frequently require large equipment to be used can carry their equipment without losing their hand.
  
  Positive: If a meteor/carp causes a breach people with packaged suits could avoid death from exploded lungs.
  
  Positive: Engineers could respond much faster to breaches if they had suits on hand while outside engineering.
  
  Positive: Stronger guns can be hidden easier for discrete smuggling.

 

• Negative: Power gamers taking suits out of EVA when not engineering for the armor/benefit of being suited.
  
  Negative: Stronger guns can be hidden easier for discrete smuggling.
  
  Negative: People taking suits in engineering with them and going AFK/SSD/CRYO.

 

What do most people feel should be done?

[Fire and Glory]

My opinion on wrapping items to store them in a bag has always been to consider it a form of power gaming*, every single one of the pro's you listed lets the person doing it to be 'better' at their job, being faster, better prepared, etc.

As convenient as it would be to carry all of your space suit in your bag, I do not think space suits or other large objects should be going into bags unless it's a particularly fancy bag or a particularly fancy suit, not because you wrapped it in paper.

As such, I support steering away from that, be it either making it impossible to put such things in bags or just enforcing rules to stop people from doing it.

*AKA gaining an advantage in your gameplay while bending what can be considered 'reasonable'.

[Ron]

please explain how wrapping paper makes a large spacesuit/gun fit into a small backpack

[Conservatron]

there are so many emergency suits around the station it might as well be named Kindergarten Station 13

back in my day you were lucky if an emergency locker even had air in it

[Chaznoodles]

there are so many emergency suits around the station it might as well be named Kindergarten Station 13

back in my day you were lucky if an emergency locker even had air in it

 

I remember some guy went around once back in the day, with a can filled with roasting hot nitrogen, filling emergency tanks. Corpses everywhere.

[Conservatron]

I've always considered doing that as antag, but it seemed like a no fun for anyone kinda thing.

Like placing a bomb next to the ERT airlock to detonate when they arrive