Ron Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 BYOND Key: Printer16 Staff BYOND Key: sebkillerdk Game ID: bTO-cY83 Reason for complaint: Disagree with judgment Evidence/logs/etc: N/A Additional remarks: I received a warning for going AFK as a head of staff. I was away from my computer to get a drink and got a call from my brother asking me to pick him up from his friends house so I left to go get him without thinking of the game. I came back and had a warning for going away as a head of staff. This is the first time I was AFK as a head of staff or any other role for an extended period of time.
sebkillerDK Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Alright, i'll put my reasoning behind the warning here. First off all, you had been AFK for over 90 minutes as a head of staff. Head of staff is an important role in the narrative of the round, and whitelisted players are held at a higher standard of play. The issue here is that you did not Ahelp, or in any other way inform staff that you were leaving for an extended period of time. As i informed you in the brief DM session we had, a simple short messege to a staff member in discord works aswell, Seeing that heads of staff jobs are also limited to 1 player per slot, you were effectively locking a highly limited job slot, and preventing other people from playing it, thus i applied the warning.
Ron Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 Seeing that heads of staff jobs are also limited to 1 player per slot, you were effectively locking a highly limited job slot, and preventing other people from playing it, thus i applied the warning. Did anyone actually ahelp or complain in dchat about this? And did anyone actually join as a HoP once I was cryo'd?
sebkillerDK Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 You were Ahelped in the round for being AFK, i can’t recal if anyone joined as a HoP after, as i believe i might have left to do something else, not 100% sure on that though
Ron Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 You were Ahelped in the round for being AFK, i can’t recal if anyone joined as a HoP after, as i believe i might have left to do something else, not 100% sure on that though No one joined as the HoP afaik. What did the ahelp say? Was it a "hey this guys afk." passive ahelp or a "Hey this guys afk and I want to join as the role." I'm assuming the former because no one joined as the HoP. In fact, I believe it was because the wizard stripped me of stuff while I was afk. I'm almost certain of it.
sebkillerDK Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 You where Ahelped informing us that you had been AFK for over 90 minutes, and if the person Ahelping you could cryo you, they then stripped you of your gear and cryoed you, the warning was applied in the meantime. The main issue here, and the whole reason the warning was applied, is again, the fact that it was a head of staff that you had gone AFK as, whitelisted players are held to a higher standard, and heads of staff are important for the round. Had you just played as a normal job, no warning would have been added, or had you informed us of your abcense, we would simply have said alright, and cryoed you for you. the point is that going AFK as any role has a limit of 20 minutes, if you go AFK/SSD for longer than that you should cryo, with heads of staff it is expected that you either cryo, Ahelp, or shoot someone a DM if you have to go, as your role is important for the round progression.
Ron Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 the point is that going AFK as any role has a limit of 20 minutes Where are you getting this time from? if you go AFK/SSD for longer than that you should cryo, with heads of staff it is expected that you either cryo, Ahelp, or shoot someone a DM if you have to go, as your role is important for the round progression. I told you I didn't have time to do this.
sebkillerDK Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 The 20 minute rule is a general staff rule that we have in place for dealing with AFK/SSD people. And i don't recal you ever saying that you didn't have time to inform the staff? just that the game wasen't on your mind, you never said that you had to urgently leave.
Ron Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 And i don't recal you ever saying that you didn't have time to inform the staff? just that the game wasen't on your mind, you never said that you had to urgently leave. The point is it wasn't intentional, didn't cause harm, first time it happened, didn't delay round progression, and didn't block someone else from taking a slot because otherwise someone else would have become HoP. I have nothing else to add without repeating myself.
Flamingo Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Alright, if I am understanding correctly, [mention]Ron[/mention] went AFK as a head of staff because he was distracted IRL. He made no attempt (even if going AFK was unintentional) to contact staff, likely because he forgot. He proceeded to not return for 90 minutes, until he was cryo'd after it was ahelped. A warning was applied to his ckey for this. From the rules: Verbal Warning/Warning: A warning is the lightest type of punishment we will dispense. Generally, this means you'll be informed of the rule you've broken, and we'll let you resume playing after you ensure us you won't break the rule again Warnings are generally applied on the first offense for issues where the offending player has logged off or is otherwise not immediately contactable. The intention is that upon logging in, they will see it and understand what they did wrong. Warnings additionally expire after a given period of three months (four for severe). Head of Staff players are whitelisted and held to a higher standard. The expectation is that you will participate in the round when playing these roles rather than going AFK. You were Ahelped in the round for being AFK, i can’t recal if anyone joined as a HoP after, as i believe i might have left to do something else, not 100% sure on that though No one joined as the HoP afaik. What did the ahelp say? Was it a "hey this guys afk." passive ahelp or a "Hey this guys afk and I want to join as the role." I'm assuming the former because no one joined as the HoP. In fact, I believe it was because the wizard stripped me of stuff while I was afk. I'm almost certain of it. No one wanting to actively play the role of Head of Personnel doesn't excuse the fact that you went AFK for 90+ minutes without informing anyone. We still punish people for beating each other up, even if both parties consent. This has always been the case. As it stands, I don't see an issue with the way [mention]sebkillerDK[/mention] handled this situation, and will uphold the warning. You are not being prevented from playing the game further, only told that the behavior is unacceptable, and that in the future, you should at the very least discord message one of us to take care of things for you. Unless any other concerns are raised, I will be locking and archiving this in 24 hours.
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