Lordnesh

Except that all the examples you listed don't 'rob' people of gameplay the same way that succumbing does. It's a difference in kind. I fully agree with you. Sometimes there are rounds where, for various reasons, we don't get to engage in medical gameplay. And that's okay. Security executing a prisoner I'm fine with. At least that's something I can interact with. The spec ops blowing up I can interact with. Cyanide pill I can interact with. Someone falling over dead for no reason? That's not something I can interact with. I just have to shrug my shoulders and ignore them.

To be absolutely clear. I have not once said, or ascribed intentionality to the effect, that people succumb in order to deliberately deny other people gameplay. My point has always been that the consequence of succumbing has the effect of denying gameplay to other people. A consequence that can largely be avoided if people would ghost/cryo instead. I have witnessed multiple times, in LOOC, OOC, and Discord, that this is done to avoid gameplay/roleplay that they don't wish to engage with (ie medical/prison). NOT that they were doing it out of spite. I 👏 Don't 👏 Take 👏 Issue 👏 With 👏 People 👏 Not 👏 Wanting 👏 To 👏 Engage 👏 In 👏 Certain 👏 Kinds 👏 Of 👏 Roleplay 👏 I don't necessarily agree that it is something we should encourage. I feel like we shouldn't have a culture where people can eject themselves from the round once they've got their frags in, but that's my personal opinion. My point is that, with the ability to ghost/cryo, people have a better tool already available to them that doesn't have the same consequences for others that succumb does. That's why I think it should be removed/restricted. The only thing it offers that ghost/cryo doesn't is instant gratification. If you need to die for narrative purposes you can ahelp to have an admin kill you. If you need to go you can say so in LOOC and ghost. If you don't want to stick around for the last 10 minutes of the round in the brig there's a cryo tube there.

Died about 10 seconds after I took this.

Just finished a round where an antag succumbed at 100% Brain activity rather than be treated and taken captive. Ghosting accomplishes the same thing without spoiling gameplay and roleplay opportunities for other players. If someone's SSD they can still be treated by medical and processed by security.

I have literally seen people post in both LOOC, OOC, and Discord saying they Succumbed to avoid certain types of roleplay (ie medical/brig). I am not being hyperbolic.

At that point they can just ghost. Succumbing doesn't just affect the player, it affects the people around them as well. If they wanna afk while being treated in medical, that's fine. Succumbing means that all the hard work medical put into making sure that person doesn't die goes up in flames for no reason other than the person is bored.

There's been a recent spat of people succumbing in order to avoid roleplay that doesn't revolve around conflict, or the build up to said conflict. This not only robs Medical of gameplay, but leaves us having to explain why X person died when they shouldn't have. I don't know what it was intended for, but I don't think it was as a get out of roleplay card.

Played several rounds with them at this point. I think they'll do just fine as command. +1

The solar battery charges sooooo slooooooooowly.

ZH Mobility Frame Still feels a little slow for being the robot with the zoomies. Liquid cooling feels like it's in a good place, but could use a teeny tiny bit of a buff still? Not sure.

Bic plus Cryo will fix them.

Felix got a boo-boo, so I wasn't taking any chances.

Power draw is still too much, and the cooling system on the Rescue suit can't keep up with my mobility frame.

We have hypo sprays. We don't need the ability to reuse needles.