Peekaboom Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 BYOND Key:PeekaboomTotal Ban Length: 3 daysBanning staff member's Key: AlberykReason of Ban: "Don't use slurs in OOC, or anywhere to be fair, even as a joke"Reason for Appeal: The "OOC slur" was: "There should be an gamemode where everyone is a trannie." I didn't insulted trannies or players. I didn't said that it was bad, I didn't offended anyone. Alberyk also stated non related stuff when bwoinking me. As "From your notes, I don't think that you will ever follow our rules". My notes doesn't have anything related to slurs or discussions. It's about some problems on killing antagonists. I have absolutely zero problems with trannies, gays, straight people. For me, it's even an offense to state that I would be attacking them. Bans surely can have basis on the past, but I think that it should be clear. I would like to be judged for that within the reason, not from an single perception about non-related stuff, possibly having that as an excuse to keep me away. If the notes were the problem, that should be included into the reason. I accept the fact that I've made mistakes inside IC fights, but I cannot accept being put as someone who does hate speech, especially when I didn't. Every single day there was real slurs, both IC and OOC, things right from /pol/. This just makes me think that the problem was another one. Thank you very much.
Alberyk Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 No, I expained the problem very clearly to you, don't use slurs. And if someone else is caught using slurs, they would also be dealt with, feel free to ahelp those. And no, it does not really to have a note in anything to count, if you keep breaking the rules, you will get banned, don't matter if it is a different rule each time. I don't know why you are making up that I have anything against you, because I don't even know you or have interacted with you anywhere else. And one of the main issues that let me escalate to a ban was that you keep trying to justify it over ahelps, so, from my perspective, you were not really getting it.
Peekaboom Posted August 11, 2019 Author Posted August 11, 2019 "And one of the main issues that let me escalate to a ban was that you keep trying to justify it over ahelps" I was just explaining it for you, because just like happened there, you're not explaining who did I offended, who was attacked by my statement. Everywhere, people have the right to self-defense. If I think that I'm not wrong as you're pointing and try to explain it, doesnt means that I'm an punk that will break rules. I really never had OOC problems with anyone. I really never had a note or even an admin contacting me for insults, slurs or anything like it.
Alberyk Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 I explained already, don't matter if you don't have a note on the issue, if you keep breaking the rules over and over, you are going to be punished. And yes, I guess someone was offended by you using a slur on ooc, since someone ahelped it. And well, you were pretty much trying to justify that using a slur was fine because it is a joke/you have nothing against them/the person that got offended was wrong, not why you used it or anything.
Peekaboom Posted August 11, 2019 Author Posted August 11, 2019 You're defining it as an slur, I would like you to explain why the statement "There should be an gamemode where everyone is a trannie." would be an slur. I couldnt say that something alleatory would be offensive to me and someone get 3 days banned. For it to be an slur, it must be one. I didnt tried to justify the slur, because I do not recognize it as an slur. But yes, I was joking. I dont think that we should have this gamemode, but I would be fine if we had. Slur.¹ an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation. "There should be an gamemode where everyone is a trannie." Where is the insult? What is offensive? Who did I offended?
Alberyk Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 No, it is a slur, I don't really to get evidence on this, I could probably just copy paste the wikipedia page or anything on this, it is indeed a slur, and I don't really want people using slurs anywhere even as a joke, not happening. It is not healthy for the community. Since it seems that this appeal is going nowhere, I will just be direct. I will lift this ban if you take in consideration what I told and just don't use slurs, even if it is a joke.
Peekaboom Posted August 11, 2019 Author Posted August 11, 2019 I'm just asking why is it an slur. If you point out why this is offensive, who did I offended and which reputation or group did I attacked, I'll happily take this ban. Thats all that I've been asking from you. I just really dont think that it was an slur. And its offensive for me being put as someone who runs hate speech. That's the main reason for me to be here.
AmoryBlaine Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 I ahelped. Tranny is derogatory. Google it to find out. It's like if I called white people whitey or black people blacky. You don't do that, it's demeaning.
Peekaboom Posted August 11, 2019 Author Posted August 11, 2019 I went to google and just discovered that "tranny" is offensive for a whole lot of people. Even if theres an group of transgenders who adopts it as their identity. I didnt know that and I'm sorry if I offended anyone. That was not my goal. Take care, everyone.
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