Character complaint - Que Tup'Xequal'Valurex

[There b pirates]

BYOND Key: ForAFriend

Game ID: b47-apbT

Player Byond Key/Character name: Que Tup'Xequal'Valurex [Head of Security]

Staff involved: readthisnameplz, simontheminer

Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? Yes, And the Ahelps were deemed as an "IC" issue, and I was advised to take the complaint here.

Approximate Date/Time: Incident 1: [02:46:22] Incident 2: [04:28:41]

 

Incident one: I was happily on my way to the cell where I was supposed to be charged, when I ask the HoS what I was charged with. The HoS Responded with nothing the first time, while I was in processing, and something about 8 charges, which is clearly made up but okay, maybe they're busy. I ask later, and they claim they've misplaced my Id and cannot tell me what I'm charged with. "oopsie"! The HoS then demotted me without the HoP's permission and sent me on my way with a generic ID, very very illegal.

 

Incident two: I was getting into the elevator, and  officer comes up and shoots me without saying anything, and without provcation. Ok. Ahelped. Resolved. I get taken in again. HoS this time hands out two charges that they cannot prove, and once again, have pulled out of their ass. I get held until transfer. That was terrible.

 

Overall, This HoS has handed out multiple charges on a whim, illegally demoted me, and was overall just trying to say things to get me held. So say that this is questionable, is an understatement, to say that I just don't understand what the player was going through would be false. If you cannot find a legitimate reason to do something, it's your job to delegate those tasks to your subordinates. don't spit things out your ass, especially when your job is to take fun away from other people.

Edited January 8, 2020 by There b pirates

[Ickysoup]

I was the HoS

Incident one:   Every security member that contributed to bring you in were aiming for maximum time, I had put trust in the warden that charges would be properly applied however that was not the case, they had put at least eight charges on you for what you did with that chem sprayer. Due to some antag stuff happening in the back of sec I felt the need to go ahead and sort you out. If I had not looked at the console you would have been in a cell for over an hour. The reason I didn't respond to what charges you had was because it was ridiculous what they had on there. I reported you over the command channel, both the captain and hop wanted you demoted due to what you did this time and the five past incidents that were on your record. So I confiscated your ID and at the same time this happened the HoP was taken hostage. You were given a blank ID as a temporary replacement, one that you can imprint all your information on to by activating it in hand. I was never able to get that sorted out unfortunately due to the chaos of the round taking all of my attention.

 

 

Incident two:   I was told you activated an EMP near the armory resulting in the blue space inhibitor teleporting the armory's contents across the station. I doubled check that you were then one who used this EMP, and at least three members of security said it was you who used it. You were charged with contraband and sabotage with this your time would have overlapped onto Odin.

 

 

I was being hit left right and center with antag plots. I was doing my damnedest to have my subordinates do most of the work but the sheer chaos didn't allow me that. Your time would have been worse if I had not intervened during the first incident. Having one of my officers turn traitor did help at all during this, not to mention the escaped, dangerous criminal stalking maintenance at the time. I had no one to delegate your processing at this time due to the injuries sustained. regarding the second incident I made a call based on the information I had, one that didn't need my input however I was asked and provided it.

 

[SatinsPristOTD]

I was the Captain for these incidents and I can confirm everything Icky has said to be the honest truth. I had you demoted based on previous record notes, and the fact that you just decided to take a Research item (chem sprayer) out and lube up the hallways like some kind of deranged clown. Calanthia is a fairly strict Captain when it comes to LRP gimmicks like that, and you were caught in the middle of the act. We had also been told to look into your name regarding a few more incidents PRIOR to the chem sprayer (I wasn't told what they were, but your name was mentioned almost as much as the main antag that round.)

At the end of the shift, we had eye witnesses that told us you EMP'd the inhibitor at the Armory. We had eye witnesses, and the incident occured rrriiiggghhht as a I dropped us from red to blue.

It was Auto-Traitor, and a damn fine tater round at that. You did some LRP memey stuff that round, got caught in the middle of a hostage situation antag hogging up Command and Sec's attention and we had "reliable" eye witnesses to you EMPing our Armory.

Whether you did or not is purely IC. They did NOT demote you "without the HoP's permission.". They had Captain Level Approval: AK a trump card.

[Faris]

Alright, so we went over this.

1- You were told to file a staff complaint if you disagreed with staff rulings. Two staff members seem to have handled both issues. This character complaint is invalid then as their actions was considered valid. We still double checked the incidents to ensure validity. 

2- It seems like the Head of Security tried to improve the situation of your processing and helped with the demotion that included the Captains approval.

3- The second incident seems fine as well, considering the round was ending it's either leave you in a cell for the remainder of the round to end or take you to the shuttle with them. They had reasonable grounds to determine it was you. 

 

In short, with testimony in this thread and reviewing of logs, we are going to dismiss the complaint on three points. 

1- It was already handled.

2- The actions cited as problematic are valid within the context of the round.

3- We saw no malice or ill-intent, instead we saw that the player has done what they could given the circumstances of the round.

 

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