Ban Appeal - Kihatomay

[Kiha]

BYOND Key: Kihatomay

Total Ban Length: 1080 minutes

Banning staff member's Key: ShesTrying

Reason of Ban:

As a dead AI, you decided to keep hitting buttons, changing the alert and messing around. Instead of ahelping after this bug, you let it sit, and you then lied that you clicked it on accident. Do not lie to staff. Do not do things you know you are not supposed to do. This is your last chance, because I really want to see you improve. So improve..

Reason for Appeal:

Firstly, I am once again here, it seems like I am prone to failure, but I'm really trying. I really enjoy the server, to the point I find it worth it to admit my faults and publicly apologize when I need to. I'm sorry that I clicked the red alert. When the prompt came up, I should have just canceled it and asked if it was normal for the prompt to come up while dead. My curiosity and experience with verbs just not working while dead convinced me that nothing would happen, I would be fine. The alert went through, and I instantly knew I had messed up. In only a moment I got the admin message, and I panicked. I know I'm on thin ice, and I'm doing well. I've been doing so much better than I was previously, and I am afraid to be banned, yet here I am. In my panic, I accidentally clicked the gravity manipulation while trying to click onto the reply box for the message, and unfortunately, it has no confirmation, so I ended up slamming my dead AI core into the ground too. It looked bad, it WAS bad, but I didn't mean to. That doesn't change that it happened. When I'm dead, I'm going to just leave my body to be rid of the verbs going forward, whether you see it fit for me to be given the benefit of the doubt or not, I'm going to keep getting better. It's embarrassing, because I'm not stupid. I don't understand why I keep having these lapses in my judgement, and it's gnawing at me. I did not intend for you to think I was referring to the alert status change when I said I missclicked, I was referring solely to the gravity manipulation ability. I am not a liar, and I don't want anyone to think I am. I've began making in-depth records for all my characters, I've started making a lot more completely combat-unrelated characters in general, and I'm going to keep going down that path to show I really do want to participate in the depth of the server's RP and lore. I'm not here to robust villains and frag assistants as an antag. If I was, I wouldn't keep coming back despite my previous problems. If I wanted that, I could just go play one of the other generic servers, but I want to engage in this server's community and RP. Like I said, I'm going to make sure I leave my body when there are sensitive verbs that might actually still function after death from now on. And I'm going to continue to indulge in the HRP aspects as I iron out my problem habits. I'm almost to that point, and I would hate to lose so much time that I could be showing my improvements. And finally, to ShesTrying directly, I am sorry it looked like I was trying to deceive you. That's not the kind of person I am, and I would never want to do that, staff member or not.

[CakeIsOssim]

While I don't doubt you are apologetic and do want to play on the server, I have some concerns regarding the circumstances of this ban (coupled with your note history).

How exactly did you miss the staff PM reply and hit a malf command verb instead? As far as I can tell, there should be no way to do that accidentally, as depending on which way you intended to reply, you either had to switch command tabs (from the 'Admin' tab to the 'Abilities' tab) OR you had to have completely missed the text box zone and instead hit a command in the verb zone of the client.

Additionally, you have a lot of notes about powergaming and bad antagonist play, some of which you should have honestly been permanently banned for by now. You claim that you're not here to robust people and actually want to engage in the community, the world, and the roleplay, but your behavior seems to indicate otherwise. I'm not the banning admin here so I don't have the complete picture; I'm just going off of what I see in your record. Not counting notes/warnings from 2018 or earlier, either - just from 2019 and above.

 

In closing, the three questions in my head are:
1. How did you accidentally hit the gravity manipulation verb while trying to respond to the admin, to the point where you have been accused of lying to staff?
2. If it was an accident, truly, how did you attempt to make this apparent while talking to the admin?
3. Do you believe that this "lapse in judgement" could happen again? The odds of a permanent ban on the next offense are very, very high. This is why I ask.

Edited February 21, 2020 by CakeIsOssim
Clarification on a question.

[Kiha]

I'm aware that I have a lot of notes about powergaming and bad antagonist play, but I've grown from that recently, and I'll continue to improve. I've never refused to cooperate with staff in any of my conversations with them, and have always immediately complied with their desires, which I think should speak for my character as a person. I've never shown any behavior along the lines of lying, nor given any reason to believe I am a liar.

To answer your questions:

1. I was clicking into the adminhelp message box to be able to type into it, I have OCD with a lot of things, one of them is UI placement, I was dragging it into a better spot on the screen and while doing so my mouse glitched (it's been doing this a lot recently and I'm looking into a fix for it), so the dragging stopped and it registered the doubleclick on the gravity malfunction verb. I know this is hard to believe, and you don't have to believe me, nor do you have much reason to, but this is exactly what happened.

2. I tried to explain that it was a missclick, but it was misinterpreted as the explanation for the initial problem (the changing to code red while dead).

3. No. Since returning from my week ban, and especially after the latest warning I received, I've been doing much better. I have had numerous antagonist rounds that the other players have enjoyed, and I am sure that there are admins who will vouch for this because they have been present or even in league with me during said rounds. The issue that got me in trouble today was the result of a bug, and naturally, it should not have even been possible to happen. I understand that it did happen, but it only happened because I thought it was impossible. That being said, it does not change the fact it did happen, nor the fact I promise it will not happen again.

Edited February 21, 2020 by Kiha
Further reasoning

[Kiha]

Another thing I will note. I hope this helps prove I am not a liar, and that I never had intentions of lying to staff, or anyone. My ban was meant to be a week I believe based on conversation with ShesTrying, however it seems to end some time today. I think a zero was missed when applying the ban. So I'm not going to be logging in until this thread comes to a conclusion.

Furthermore, I've done some digging because my mouse continues to have this doubeclick issue, and it turns out it's not just me. I'm probably going to have to replace the switch on it, here is where I found the information, I hope this helps you better understand my issue and that I was not lying or making things up.

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Kiha
Proof of mouse issue

[ShesTrying]

Alright. I understand where you are coming from. Because of my error in the ban time, I want you to sit this ban out. There's about half of it left. You need to understand that just being apologetic about things isn't going to get you out of these situations, and really start paying attention to what you're clicking and doing. This is your last chance, and I want to see you improve from here. 

 

Appeal denied. Return when the 24 hours are up.