Injustified ban complain

[Guest masincasasirom]

BYOND Key: BigChungus123

 

Staff BYOND Key:  alberyk

 

Game ID: Didn't happen ingame, I was banned on discord and then ingame

 

Reason for complaint: I don't think that my ban is justified. I ain't a neo nazi and I hate nazis, I didn't want the swastika and the "white power" text to be seen in the profile picture, just pepe with an ak-47 and I would have changed my profile picture if any admin/moderator just asked, I used the picture for satiric purposes. I am sorry if it offended someone. And I don't think that my discord profile picture has anything to do with my character on the server and that I shouldn't have been banned on the space station 13 server,

 

Additional remarks: If you don't want me unbanned on discord just unban me ingame, the ingame server matters to me more than the discord server

[Alberyk]

Unsure how old you are or how much you know, but there is something called dog whistle. It is when a group uses coded imagery/words to identify each other/transmit a message without being "caught". Your profile picture was cropped to hide the shirt saying white power and the nazi party armband. But, what caught my attention was the presence of ropes, which is a reference to the turner diaries. Now, for most people, that would just be a pepe with a gun, but for anyone that had some contact/knowledge with this kind of stuff, they would get it right away. So, I did a small google image search and found the original one. I applied the ban right away because at this point, I have no real tolerance in regards to this type of thing, it was a really big problem in the community at some point and it should be stamped out as soon it is possible.

I am also unsure what satiric purposes means here. Because a satire is essentially the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc. And there is nothing like that in your profile picture. If you did not want people to think you were a neo-nazi, you should have not a picture that was nothing but full of neo-nazi imagery. 

Anyway, from the discord rules and why the ban is justified:

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Rule 5: Do not post obscene, pornographic, or otherwise offensive content. We have people of different ages and backgrounds, be considerate. Nude stuff counts and cropped count works.
Rule 11: We reserve the right to ban you from the server if you are discord banned. The opposite is also true. We may decide you have no place in our community as a whole.

Staff is under no obligation to strike you first. They may ban at their discretion.

I am also unsure if I should even give you the benefit of doubt, since you changed your profile picture to Obama wearing a kufiya, which kinda plays in another alt-right conspiracy of him being a foreigner/muslim. So, I guess you are either totally oblivious to what this stuff means, totally lost in some kind of ultra silly irony thinking it justifies everything, or a neo-nazi from what I can see.

[Guest masincasasirom]

1 hour ago, Alberyk said:

Unsure how old you are or how much you know, but there is something called dog whistle. It is when a group uses coded imagery/words to identify each other/transmit a message without being "caught". You profile picture was cropped to hide the shirt saying white power and the nazi party armband. But, what caught my attention was the presence of ropes, which is a reference to the turner diaries. Now, for most people, that would just be a pepe with a gun, but for anyone that had some contact/knowledge with this kind of stuff, they would get it right away. So, I did a small google image search and found the original one. I applied the ban right away because at this point, I have no real tolerance in regards to this type of thing, it was a really big problem in the community at some point and it should be stamped out as soon it is possible.

I am also unsure what satiric purposes means here. Because a satire is essentially the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc. And there is nothing like that in your profile picture. If you did not want people to think you were a neo-nazi, you should have not a picture that was nothing but full of neo-nazi imagery. 

Anyway, from the discord rules and why the ban is justified:

I am also unsure if I should even give you the benefit of doubt, since you changed your profile picture to Obama wearing a kufiya, which kinda plays in another alt-right conspiracy of him being a foreigner/muslim. So, I guess you are either totally oblivious to what this stuff means, totally lost in some kind of ultra silly irony thinking it justifies everything, or a neo-nazi from what I can see.

The Obama profile picture is a joke, the picture itself is used in arabfunny if you know what it is. And I changed my profile picture becuase I tought that you would ask me "If you are not a neo nazi then why do you still have the nazi profile picture?" and because I change my profile pictures often and I tought that I would be banned on other servers for apparently having a nazi profile picture and being a nazi, again I didn't mean to offend anyone

[Guest masincasasirom]

On 01/12/2020 at 16:11, Alberyk said:

Unsure how old you are or how much you know, but there is something called dog whistle. It is when a group uses coded imagery/words to identify each other/transmit a message without being "caught". Your profile picture was cropped to hide the shirt saying white power and the nazi party armband. But, what caught my attention was the presence of ropes, which is a reference to the turner diaries. Now, for most people, that would just be a pepe with a gun, but for anyone that had some contact/knowledge with this kind of stuff, they would get it right away. So, I did a small google image search and found the original one. I applied the ban right away because at this point, I have no real tolerance in regards to this type of thing, it was a really big problem in the community at some point and it should be stamped out as soon it is possible.

I am also unsure what satiric purposes means here. Because a satire is essentially the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc. And there is nothing like that in your profile picture. If you did not want people to think you were a neo-nazi, you should have not a picture that was nothing but full of neo-nazi imagery. 

Anyway, from the discord rules and why the ban is justified:

I am also unsure if I should even give you the benefit of doubt, since you changed your profile picture to Obama wearing a kufiya, which kinda plays in another alt-right conspiracy of him being a foreigner/muslim. So, I guess you are either totally oblivious to what this stuff means, totally lost in some kind of ultra silly irony thinking it justifies everything, or a neo-nazi from what I can see.

And I another thing I want to say. You probably still think that I am a nazi but as I said I hate then. My country worked with nazis in WW2 and my grand grandparents were killed by them and I dont know what dog whistles are. I would like to admit my stupidity, I am only 16 and I am sorry for putting the nazi pepe as my profile picture even though I aint a nazi and have nothing to do with them

Edited December 2, 2020 by masincasasirom
Admiting some stuff

[Garnascus]

I am afraid this is fairly straight forward. Your discord picture contained obscene content, thus you where banned. It is very bizarre to me that you did not just use a different picture if you truly did not want people to see the swastika. 

[Guest masincasasirom]

13 hours ago, Garnascus said:

I am afraid this is fairly straight forward. Your discord picture contained obscene content, thus you where banned. It is very bizarre to me that you did not just use a different picture if you truly did not want people to see the swastika. 

Well I found kermit with an ak picture later...