FlamingLily Posted August 31 Posted August 31 (edited) BYOND Key: FlamingLily Staff BYOND Key: Campinkiller https://forums.aurorastation.org/topic/22628-player-complaint-ishwari-gajuti/ Reason for complaint: A few days ago, I made the above player complaint to raise an issue i had about a player's behaviour. My concerns focused on behaviour that made me and other players quite uncomfortable. This was done after an ahelp failed to resolve the issue. I want to stress here that this is the normal path of action when making a complaint about a player. Aurora has always had public player complaints, and they have always been where you turn for complaints of this nature. The complaint in question was summarily dismissed because I was "making a public which hunt" out of it and targeting the player. The fact that I've had these claims levied at me for following the normal complaints process is frankly, extremely hurtful. The implication that I'm on a vendetta to ruin the experience of a player *who I still don't know,* is something that staff shouldn't be saying. This complaint isn't about the outcome of the player complaint (Though I will have some things to say at the end), it's about the fact that I was given hostility and blame from the staff team because I followed the correct complaints procedure. If I posted this complaint on the discord, sure I'd make it a public trial. If I made accusations of character (I never once called the character or the player a transphobe, I was complaining about the ACTIONs), then sure, maybe I would have made it a witch hunt. The only unwanted attention the thread even got was one peanut poster who wasn't involved, everone else was related to the complaint. I want to ask, if what I did was wrong by following the normal complaints process, what else should I have done??? And if there was a better way about this, that should be made significantly more clear and not made through throwing around accusations of witch hunting and harassment. Additional remarks: I do want to briefly touch on the outcome. In the complaint itself Evandorf says there's OOC precedent to intervening when a character is misgendering another, and that it would have been appropriate to do so. It's not really clear if this is going to be communicated to the player from the outcome, because it spends most of its time accusing me of making this a public spectacle, but if not, I would hope at the very least that would be communicated. Also, taking staff action against someone for "self antagging" over something as mild as *pulling a knife and not even using it* sets a precedent that probably 90% of characters would fail to meet. It's an extreme position, but it's also not my complaint to make. If I were in Stripes shoes, I absolutely would, but I'm not and it's her complaint to make if she so chooses. Edited September 1 by FlamingLily Removed Mattatlas from complaint 1
evandorf Posted September 1 Posted September 1 1 hour ago, FlamingLily said: I do want to briefly touch on the outcome. In the complaint itself Evandorf says there's OOC precedent to intervening when a character is misgendering another, and that it would have been appropriate to do so. I wanted to clarify that what was said in my post was that we do not allow transphobic characters out of OOC consideration. Misgendering on accident is allowed. Misgendering with intent is not and the determination is made by the moderation team. In my post on the previous complaint, I mentioned that I had dropped the ball not in the determination of intent but in failing to educate the player more clearly on avoiding the questionable behavior.
CampinKiller Posted September 1 Posted September 1 1 hour ago, FlamingLily said: The complaint in question was summarily dismissed because I was "making a public which hunt" out of it and targeting the player. The complaint in question was dismissed because, after investigation, it was clearly unfounded. As for the public with hunt, we have confidential complaints for a reason. They would have been far more appropriate than levying some serious accusations at a new player for anyone on the forum to see. It is also a bit hard to believe that you made the complaint in total good faith when these accusations had no or little evidence to back them up and featured vague references to supposed other incidents. 1 hour ago, FlamingLily said: (I never once called the character or the player a transphobe, I was complaining about the ACTIONs) People seriously need to consider the ramifications of things that they say. There was a very big implication that the person misgendered Stripes's character intentionally in yours and others posts. The stigma that someone would have from that and the damage to their reputation is quite large, and that's before the fact that they could very well end up banned for such behavior. I'm not sure how you could make that complaint and then sit here and say that you were not accusing someone you thought was intentionally misgendering someone of being transphobic. Those don't add up. 1 hour ago, FlamingLily said: It's not really clear if this is going to be communicated to the player from the outcome The player in question said he had never had any intention of misgendering anyone and would take care to avoid doing so in the future. 1 hour ago, FlamingLily said: Also, taking staff action against someone for "self antagging" over something as mild as *pulling a knife and not even using it* sets a precedent that probably 90% of characters would fail to meet. It's an extreme position, but it's also not my complaint to make. If I were in Stripes shoes, I absolutely would, but I'm not and it's her complaint to make if she so chooses. I'm going to take umbrage at this thinly veiled swipe at our decision. First of all, characterizing a note as "extreme" is laughable. Further, yes, threatening someone with a knife and locking them in a room because they mistakenly called you "Sir," when they have both called everyone on the ship by that AND have no idea that they are speaking to a transgender woman is not remotely reasonable behavior. As said in the complaint, there was no real attempt to explain what the issue was. Instead it was demands, threats, and anger. Quite frankly, it looked like Stripes and you were baiting the player and trying to get him into further hot water if they didn't kneel at your feet and apologize whilst having a knife waved in their face. The ONLY reason I decided to not consider anything further than a note against Stripes was because they were told to find an IC resolution - even though that resolution was quite insane. This entire debacle was completely overblown on both an IC and OOC level and was completely toxic over a genuine mistake from a new player, so I would consider it charitable that the only "punishments" dished out were a note about the IC rule breaking. 1 3
MattAtlas Posted September 1 Posted September 1 Did you actually intend to make this complaint against me? Because I didn't have any say in the final decision. If you did actually intend to add me to the complaint, then you are taking specific issue with what I wrote in the post I made before locking the thread. I've gotten information that you are not only actually making this complaint against me, you are ALSO acting maliciously against me along with your friends. People can disagree with our decisions, we can talk about it maturely, but I draw a line at you trying to slander me in private and I'm going to expose everything you all have been doing when I get home, because I will not tolerate this anymore.
FlamingLily Posted September 1 Author Posted September 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, MattAtlas said: Did you actually intend to make this complaint against me? Because I didn't have any say in the final decision. If you did actually intend to add me to the complaint, then you are taking specific issue with what I wrote in the post I made before locking the thread. When I made this complaint, I only had the context of there being the one off-topic post, and so it felt a little like your comment was targeting me for the complaint, especially when read alongside the post by campin. I've since been told that there were other now deleted posts that the comment was addressing, and so with that context I'd prefer to just drop the complaint against you. Sorry for the trouble. 6 hours ago, CampinKiller said: -snip- I didn't elect to use a confidential complaint because the use-case for them is very ill-defined, and I wasn't sure if this would fit, how you use them, what the process is. My understanding was that they're for significant complaints, given the requirement for a headmin to be involved, and I didn't feel that this fit. That being said, I still take very strong issue with the fact that I'm being painted here as going out of my way to bully a new player for an honest mistake. Firstly, I don't know who this player is, certainly much less knowing that they were a new player- in fact, throughout the round they acted in a way which implied familiarity with the server and the lore. I was under the impression that they were a veteran. Secondly, the claim here that I'm not making this complaint in good faith is extremely hurtful. I am a trans woman. This misgendering is extremely uncomfortable and offputting to me, in no small part because I am trans. It might not have been intentionally transphobic misgendering, and I, again, never claimed it was- but it was a tacit and deliberate refusal to accept being told to stop using "sir" on a female character. That is what made me uncomfortable. The fact that I'm unable to raise this point of discomfort without being labelled "toxic" or "disingenuous" and that I'm going out in "bad faith" and deliberately targeting and harassing new players is extremely upsetting to me. I am not trying to paint this person as a transphobe, and I'm not trying to cause some stigma here to spread among the community. I don't know who this person is, and the fact that I'm being ascribed motivations about this that I don't have, when in fact my motivations here were solely and exclusively to raise an issue that I felt deeply uncomfortable over is really upsetting. 6 hours ago, CampinKiller said: baiting the player and trying to get him into further hot water if they didn't kneel at your feet and apologize I didn't have malicious intent. I was trying to report something I found uncomfortable. The fact that you're trying to impart abjectly malicious intentions on me even when I've said otherwise is extremely distressing, feels excessively personal, and makes me feel like I'm not allowed to make complaints like this. Edited September 1 by FlamingLily clarifying why I didn't use a confidential complaint
CampinKiller Posted Monday at 15:01 Posted Monday at 15:01 This was the interaction: Quote [2025-08-28 03:37:48.671] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Ishwari Gajuti) : (Ceti Basic) What do you mean sir? [2025-08-28 03:37:53.793] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) Stop- calling me sir. [2025-08-28 03:38:00.527] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Ishwari Gajuti) : (Ceti Basic) Of course sir, I meant no offense. [2025-08-28 03:38:01.338] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) I'm a woman. [2025-08-28 03:38:06.413] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) ...Buddy. [2025-08-28 03:38:08.304] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Ishwari Gajuti) : (Ceti Basic) Yes, a mere deferment, sir. [2025-08-28 03:38:10.549] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) Y' do that again and y' gettin- [2025-08-28 03:38:10.926] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Tsuchinoko) : (Ceti Basic) You... [2025-08-28 03:38:11.456] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) -Correct your behavior. [2025-08-28 03:38:19.903] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) A bowl've Aaoyama to y' face. [2025-08-28 03:38:22.658] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) You're doing this on purpose. Correct it. [2025-08-28 03:38:34.558] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Ishwari Gajuti) : (Ceti Basic) It's a manner of speaking, good sir I mean not to offend. [2025-08-28 03:38:41.683] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) -Call me sir one more time... [2025-08-28 03:38:52.642] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) Call me it. One more time. [2025-08-28 03:38:57.311] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Ishwari Gajuti) : (Ceti Basic) Would you open the door? [2025-08-28 03:38:57.611] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) And you will regret it. [2025-08-28 03:39:07.183] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Ishwari Gajuti): (Ceti Basic) Of course sir, my apologies. [2025-08-28 03:39:07.819] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Tsuchinoko) : (Ceti Basic) Just correct your mistake. [2025-08-28 03:39:12.538] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) Are you like- [2025-08-28 03:39:13.973] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) Vien. [2025-08-28 03:39:15.140] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) Easy. [2025-08-28 03:39:16.143] cBj-asE9 SAY: TheStripes/(Vien Xuan Pham) : (Ceti Basic) -Do you want to test me <i>again</i>?! [2025-08-28 03:39:17.339] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Garreth Lehto) : (Ceti Basic) <i>Knife pulled at the shop-</i> [2025-08-28 03:39:22.868] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) Look, buddy. [2025-08-28 03:39:23.081] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Tsuchinoko) : (Ceti Basic) Don't... [2025-08-28 03:39:34.167] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Joyo Siahaan) : (Ceti Basic) Do you mind putting down the knife? [2025-08-28 03:39:34.377] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Garreth Lehto) : (Ceti Basic) <i>Vien just pulled out a knife at the commissary.</i> [2025-08-28 03:39:35.647] cBj-asE9 SAY: FlamingLily/(Mira Tilton) : (Ceti Basic) Y' got somethin' wrong with y' head? Y' hearin'? [2025-08-28 03:39:36.528] cBj-asE9 SAY: XXX/(Tsuchinoko) : (Ceti Basic) Don't come back today, please! [2025-08-28 03:39:46.441] cBj-asE9 ADMIN: HELP: XXX: Ishwari Gajuti kept misgendering Vien repeatedly on purpose - heard by 2 non-AFK admins. The only thing that was said was "Stop calling me sir, I'm a woman," whilst you were already behaving with hostility towards Gajuti. There was no further explanation as to why, any additional context, nothing. There was no "deliberate refusal to accept being told to stop." Rather, you and Stripes both began berating the player with no further context, with Stripes going so far as to draw a weapon. A normal, good faith response to the player would probably have been "Could you please not, I'm a trans woman, calling me sir makes me uncomfortable." Instead, you assumed the worst and attacked the player. From simply being told "I'm a woman, don't call me sir," I don't see how a reasonable person can say that they were intentionally misgendering. And let's be clear, you and Stripes both said that it was intentional, both in the ahelps and in the complaint. I don't really get how you can claim otherwise. I'm also aware that you and other people within this group of yours are slandering me over this decision, just like Matt (no idea why he was included here btw). I'm only going to say I trust that this behavior will be dealt with by the handling staff.
MattAtlas Posted Monday at 16:04 Posted Monday at 16:04 I have always believed that a server lives and dies by how it treats its new players. Especially if they are well intentioned and clearly trying their best, they should always be treated with the most leniency possible because that's how you foster a good, welcoming environment. What purpose is there in being excessively harsh with a new player? What use is it to be draconian with the slightest rule infraction? What reason do I have to doubt a new player's intentions and immediately assume the worst? All you get as a result is that the player in question will leave, tell their friends to not come, and Aurora will suffer from a critical lack of new players as it has for a long time now, and high roleplay servers are already a dying breed. With that out of the way, I'm going to tell you that you have been doing nothing but lying in this complaint. You are lying about not having any malicious intent, you are lying about being sorry for what you and your friends have done to me, and you are lying by claiming that you had no ill intentions towards this new player. This morning at 6 AM I woke up for my exam and the first thing I found in my DMs was a friend telling me that one of your group went to them to rant about this complaint. Generally I do not care about these things. You would be surprised at how many people come to me telling them that I did something draconian again. This does not matter to me usually, because I do not pretend that Aurora is an utopia where everyone gets along. Head staff will always make decisions that are hard, and I'm aware that I can be something of a hot-head sometimes and I take strong measures to protect this environment's friendliness to new players, whether that's moderating certain kinds of discussions (like what happened a few days ago) or others. I don't care if people disagree, I don't pretend to be end-all be-all administrator of SS13. Where I draw the line is your group accusing me of being a homophobe outright to my friends in order to isolate me and cut me off from the people I know. I am not going to tolerate this sort of disgusting behaviour anymore. This isn't the first time you or your people have hinted to it, and you are all complicit. Unluckily for your group, I have the names of everyone involved, and I'm going to forward them as well. You are all complicit because, willingly or not, you've managed to blow up a new player's mistake out of proportion by transforming it into an accusation of transphobia, and when things didn't go your way you then went to rile up support in other people's private messages. You tried to bully a new player out of the server as an organized group because you didn't like something that they were doing, when in reality it was nothing but a mistake that they were extremely apologetic for. For all the talk that you and your group put out about being "empathetic" or "welcoming" or "tolerant" none of you ever even considered the possibility that you were talking to a new player and that they were making a mistake in a good faith. Not a single time did you stop to think about what you were doing. Not a single thought in your head thought that perhaps a public complaint on a new player while publicly accusing them of transphobia was a bad idea. Did you even think that you could talk to the new player in LOOC to tell them that you were comfortable? The truth is that no, you didn't, because you are not showing a single hint of regret over FALSELY accusing a new player of being a transphobe. Is your discomfort worth more than others'? Do you have more of a right to feeling discomfort than others? Have you forgotten that this is a public space and not your private playground? Did you stop even once to think about the fact that you were going to irrepairably damage someone's reputation when they made a mistake that they apologized profusely for? The answer is no, because you did this maliciously. You know that you can get away with it, but I'm not going to let you do it anymore, and it's about time that everyone knows the kinds of games you've been playing. And I'm not going to pretend that you have no idea what you were doing. You sicced your friends on me (just one example, that is a player who has not played for years now - I wonder why they suddenly popped up!), several of which have been calling me a homophobe to my friends. Luckily I do not need to prove anything to anyone, and the people who know me know that I am not who you want to desperately believe that I am to justify your actions. The person who reported all of this to me has chosen to remain anonymous for their own safety -- yes, because your people are a group to hide from, considering your penchant for slandering people -- so I have forwarded the relevant proof to the headmins ahead of time. You tried apologising in my DMs with a fake apology when I know you have been complaining privately about my decision on the complaint (what decision? I wasn't involved in the final decision, all I did was protect a new player from people guessing that they were a racist or homophobe). You lied again when you said you were in no group (although I should say, in the context of this response I mean "group" less like an organized discord server and more of a vague group of people that talk to eachother). You and your friends asked me for help time and time again, putting up a friendly façade while at the same time telling others that I am a heinous person. Another note on what you brought up about staff telling you to make this a complaint, I criticized the handling staff in moderator chat and told them that they should not have told you to make a public complaint because it would have irrepairably damaged the player's reputation on the server even if the accusations were found to be false - something that I was right in suspecting, considering that you have all now taken to calling me and Campin horrid things over a complete non-issue. I was going to make an announcement to staff to tell them to not tell adminhelpers to make a complaint if the subject of the complaint would be potentially reputation-ruining, because of this exact problem. If anyone wonders why complaints aren't private in the first place, it is because of the limitations that come with the forum system we use. I have always, always, always been open to anyone DMing me for any decision. All one of you had to do was talk to me, or talk to anyone in private to figure out the reasons between the reasoning behind the decisions we make. Everything we did was to protect a new player's time on the server. But I will not accept this sort of behaviour. Not now, not ever. It is not possible that I have to handle these things because you all will start shadow witch hunts using your status as a shield. And I will not stay silent about what it is that you do anymore. 6 3
Powder Miner Posted Monday at 20:15 Posted Monday at 20:15 2 hours ago, MattAtlas said: --- This is - at the end of the day - an extremely large and vitriolic vaguepost. It makes a lot of attacks, and it makes a lot of accusations, but because 90% of the supposed ongoing conspiracy is implied and 90% of the supposed evidence is implied, it seems designed to be impossible for anyone to actually respond to. It isn't clear who is actually being targeted besides Lily, and because what you are saying in that post is to the best of my knowledge not true, she isn't going to be able to respond either. It's difficult for me to tell whether or not I'm directly being targeted and lied about here for this exact reason. But seeing as your post seems to be designed to paint anyone who made any complaint as being part of this supposed conspiracy, and I did make a private complaint to a headmin, I more or less have to assume that I am a target. With that said, I am going to share exactly what I did and did not do. I feel that I have the honest truth on my side here and that I am being slandered, so it is really only helpful to at least provide my timeline. -When the actual player complaint occurred, despite being Lily's friend I avoided getting involved. I don't have a strong opinion on the subject of what happened with the new player, and I find it completely believable that he just made an honest mistake. I didn't go talking around about it, either. -It was only when Campin's response to the player complaint took the tone it did and included several personal attacks that I then became upset enough to seriously mull over writing a staff complaint of my own. I discussed whether it made sense to take that course of action with another player for some time, of my own initiative - during the course of this, I learned the context that your post in the player complaint thread had been responding to deleted posts. That made sense to me, and I figured at the time that you hadn't done anything objectionable. -While in the middle of this discussion, I discovered that Lily had made the staff complaint when I thought she had been asleep. I hadn't heard of this at all until I saw the thread, and was somewhat blindsided. -At this point, still very angry, I spoke much more briefly to two other users that I figured with the explicit purpose of getting a sanity check and finding something less escalatory to do - and that's exactly what I got. I was talked down from making a post in the staff complaint thread into just sending a private message to a headmin. This private message, in fact, did not mention you at all, not even implicitly, as I did not consider you to really have done anything problematic at the time. The private message was made under the assumption that what would happen next would be what you would expect under pretty much any standard moderation - the existence of a private complaint would come up as a note during staff conversation without necessarily dominating anything. It seemed like the much less disruptive path to take than making an angry public post in a complaint that was already extremely controversial for being a "public trial", and I think this is extremely logical. This is what people usually do with staff. -I went back to the original person I'd been mulling over the staff complaint with and let the person in question know that I had sent a private message to staff and would leave it off there. -Later, and only after all of the rest of this, I did talk with Lily - in large part to let her know the context behind your post in the player complaint thread and that I thought she erred in adding you to the complaint. Before this point, I both thought it was likely too sore a subject to bring up and that she shouldn't really be awake in the first place. So... as far as anyone organizing anything goes, it would seem to have been me. I got angry on Lily's behalf without consulting her, considered writing a staff complaint, talked with a couple of people and then ultimately chose to make a PM to a headmin that didn't involve you at all and that I figured would be the least disruptive way possible to express how inappropriate I thought the tone taken was. But there's a lot being said here that I absolutely did not do that I think I am being accused of, and if I am being accused of these things - or frankly if Lily is being accused of these things - then it is a lie from a member of head staff. -If I am being accused of being part of an organized group that exists to bully and harass people, that is a direct falsehood and will not stand up to scrutiny. I had no intention of getting even slightly involved until I felt that the personal attacks in Campin's post were vile. I was not involved with Gajuti at all. I do not like talking about other players in general. -If I am being accused of going around and slandering Matt and calling him homophobic, that is a direct falsehood and will not stand up to scrutiny. Not only did I absolutely not say that, but I thought Matt being included in the complaint seemed like a mistake and said so pretty freely. -If I am being accused of, in general, attempting to poison the well by hunting down people's friends to cut them off, that is a direct falsehood and will not stand up to scrutiny. I spoke to three people that I personally trusted to try to haul myself back, and a headmin to send a private message to. -Lily is being accused of some sort of incredible Machiavellian coordination here. This is a direct falsehood and will not stand up to scrutiny. Having spoken to her more recently, she spoke to, frankly, fewer people about this than I did. The actions that I did take I took myself because I wanted to express in some way that I thought the personal attacks were unacceptable. 3 hours ago, MattAtlas said: It is not possible that I have to handle these things because you all will start shadow witch hunts using your status as a shield. And I will not stay silent about what it is that you do anymore. I avoided posting in the thread until now because I thought it was reckless and not likely to be constructive - hence finding people to cool me down until I just sent a private staff message. And, frankly, I would even understand taking heat due to the actions that I outlined, which are more questionable than anything Lily actually did. But I will not sit down and put up with being flagrantly lied about by a member of head staff in order to push a narrative about some shadowy LGBT cabal. It's certainly possible that there are other people independently choosing to do things I don't know about - I have no idea who the hell the person is who made the user report on Matt's post, for example - but the accusations Matt is making of an organized group imply a lot of things about Lily and about me that are absolutely not true. 3
FlamingLily Posted Monday at 22:22 Author Posted Monday at 22:22 I offered to discuss this with Matt privately. I added him to the complaint in mistake and removed him. That offer was refused. I then spoke to Mel out of concern for Matt and myself and confusion and worry. I don't know what's going on. I'm not in any discord servers. The one I was referring to was a joke about a discord server I'm in with one aurora player who was most active in the aurora2 days. Aurora doesn't come up that often. And we certainly don't do any of this conspiracy stuff. I'm scared of this. I have no way to defend myself against this, I have no way to set the record straight, I have no way to stop what is clearly going to become a hate campaign against me for something I didn't do. People I thought I was friends with are in those heart reacts. I don't know where that leaves us. I don't know what's happening, I don't know what the truth is, I don't want any of this.
FlamingLily Posted Monday at 23:19 Author Posted Monday at 23:19 I'm just gong to withdraw this complaint. I'm sorry.
MattAtlas Posted Monday at 23:58 Posted Monday at 23:58 3 hours ago, Powder Miner said: snip A few things from my end: It is not a vaguepost. I was very clear with what is happening and I avoided dropping names in public on purpose because I do not want to embroil more people in public further. Nonetheless I thought it necessary to set the record straight on what is happening. You can notice that I gave Lily the very same way out you gave her in the first version of my first post, where I asked her if she really did mean to make a complaint against me, because from my point of view all I did was stop a peanut gallery. Where I got pissed off was the reaction after the complaint was closed. I want to make it clear that I did not make any demands to remove any player or anything, because in this complaint I expect to be judged like any player would be, and I would never suggest to the handling admins any sort of course of actions as that would be beyond a gross overstep. Me telling Lily to "not speak to me again" is a personal action because I came to the conclusion that I was lied to. When I made my post, I forwarded the evidence to Mel because that way she can verify that I am not making things up (because I would never, ever do such a thing). Instead of the complaint being closed, she can look into the evidence and what I brought forward as the most neutral party I can imagine, either her or Arrow. If there was a misunderstanding then that would be the best way to find it. As for you, personally did not think you were even involved much less had any part. I figured you may have talked to Lily over the complaint but that is it. As far as I am concerned I personally do not have any issue with you nor did I have any before. I did not mention a "shadowy LGBT cabal" anywhere. My issue is with the behaviour of specific people. I said group, because I have been playing SS13 since 2017 and I recognize that it is normal for people to become friends and stick around together. I do it too. To me it becomes a problem when you start abusing that position.
Melariara Posted Tuesday at 01:02 Posted Tuesday at 01:02 Originally, it was going to be @Owen and myself handling this post, but since it is withdrawn, well, we still want to post. First and foremost: Aurora does not tolerate transphobia or discrimination of any kind. Aurora also does not tolerate accusations of transphobia or accusations of discrimination, without evidence, of any kind. Such accusations have real life ramifications on people when accused in real life and, in my opinion, should not fly. We completely understand why some people are hurt from this, and feeling betrayed, and we are sorry that staff reacted how they did. More on that below. In future, I have some tips for everyone. To our players: If something ever, ever feels off, please, please report it. Even if it turns into a big misunderstanding, we will never judge or punish you for reporting. To the moderator and administration team: We will continue treating these cases seriously, and when evidence is brought forward from all parties, we take action. We will no longer be accusatory in our own right. We as a staff team have learned from this, both on how to handle situations such as this, and how to handle ourselves in future. Owen and myself have worked together to create a post for the moderator chat which will hopefully see some improvement from us in future, and hopefully create less hostility when it comes to all complaints, not just this particular case. If people are entering other peoples DMs to create hostility, we encourage people who have received such hostility to come forward with their evidence and myself and Owen will take a look at this. At the end of the day, we are volunteers. All work we do for this server, as with any staff member, is volunteer work. We are human, we have emotions, as anyone else on this server does. No one deserves to be blasted in DMs by someone. 17 2
Melariara Posted Tuesday at 05:01 Posted Tuesday at 05:01 If there are no more concerns regarding this staff complaint, we will close it in 24 hours. If there are, please post here. 3 hours ago, Melariara said: If people are entering other peoples DMs to create hostility, we encourage people who have received such hostility to come forward with their evidence and myself and Owen will take a look at this. At the end of the day, we are volunteers. All work we do for this server, as with any staff member, is volunteer work. We are human, we have emotions, as anyone else on this server does. No one deserves to be blasted in DMs by someone. Also, this was not a joke. Please come into my DMs, or any other moderator or administrator with your evidence, if this ever, ever happens. Aurora should be a safe space. 5
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