Create a Lore Discussion Board.

[Jakers457]

So, baring the flag with the reds that represents the blood of angry men and the blues to represent the changing of the tides... or however it goes.. let's scrap that.

I think we should also have a Lore Discussion board where people can talk freely about lore based things with each other, there won't need to be definite answers but speculations or perhaps things that are missing that people would like to inject their ideas into. Now before I get bombarded with posts that contain bold lettering and other font changing features for reasons I care little for. I know we have a lore applications board and a lore questions board. But there... isn't room for discussion, when I wrote Little Adhomai all I had was a concept, a rough idea that I wasn't too sure on where to go with it. So I opened it to discussion, whether it were on the thread or during OOC after people had read it. You know, asking what else they would like to see in Little Adhomai and such. But that is no longer the case, which to me is kind of shitty. And with the Lore Questions, a lot of good discussions get primmed away and even with certain... controversial questions get real, factual and mature answers snipped away as well.

So I propose a Lore Discussions board where people who enjoy reading the lore can... freely talk about it without the purple cloak looming in the sky above them. Not to shit on the Lore Team, they do a lot of good things, but I do feel some of them are pushing the community out in the process of making everything, I don't know, clean and organized? Not sure, and if this proposal gets slapped out of my hands by the masses or relevant parties in the staffing team, then so be it.

[SgtSammac]

I can see where you are coming from but why not just use the general boards? That's what they are there for, discussions related to the game. Which includes lore

[Jakers457]

I was tempted to do that, but I've noticed various threads get blotted out by the latest big issue or... argument. With that, I felt having a board separated from the general discussions would give a... productive environment exclusively for lore related discussions and hopefully bolster accessibility too. Originally, I would have said the Lore Questions board was a good place for this but since the policy has changed, I feel that a Discussion board would be the next step.

[mrimatool]

I can get behind this idea to be honest. A place where people can discuss the lore rather than trying to change or push their own ideas.

The reason the Questions and Applications areas aren't the best for discussion is because that's not their purpose.

The questions board is for answers, reliable answers not discussing who's ideas are better.

And the Lore applications area is for players to create their own lore and get it pushed into Canon so yes this is a great idea +17

[Erik Tiber]

I would very much like this. It would be easier to brainstorm with others. It would make it far easier to give feedback as well.

Who would moderate it, the general forum staff?

I can get behind this idea to be honest. A place where people can discuss the lore rather than trying to change or push their own ideas.

The reason the Questions and Applications areas aren't the best for discussion is because that's not their purpose.

The questions board is for answers, reliable answers not discussing who's ideas are better.

And the Lore applications area is for players to create their own lore and get it pushed into Canon so yes this is a great idea +17

I think it would serve well as a place for players to also discuss changes they might want in the lore, since without that you're basically prohibiting people from giving any feedback that isn't positive.

[mrimatool]

id actually prefer if we allowed changes in the backstory application area. To allow changes to be made in an official manner rather than it just being the decision of the few players who would frequent the lore discussion board, because if we do that then we might as well leave it the way it is.

[Frances]

If it's about discussing "small and minor ideas" for fun, then a single thread might suit our needs alright (especially given that I am of the opinion that if more people were interested in discussing the lore, we would see more lore threads).

On the other hand, I think everyone has observed that lore discussions (even the fun and minor ones) can get really long-winded here, so trying to curate a single thread for a group of them might simply result in chaos.

[incognitojesus]

I would support this notion.

I was very disappointed in the decision made by the lore team that basically ruled out any sort of discussion or really any communication betwixt the lore team and the entire community. Not allowing for community members to post on the 'Lore Questions' subforum? I could never agree with such a decision, so this is nice and nice stuffs are nice.

And subforums are nice. As well as organization.

[Guest]

id actually prefer if we allowed changes in the backstory application area. To allow changes to be made in an official manner rather than it just being the decision of the few players who would frequent the lore discussion board, because if we do that then we might as well leave it the way it is.

 

They arent backstory apps anymore, they're canonization applications. Jack and I altered the regulations to permit them to change current lore.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

I misinterpreted the OP. My original post is spoiler'd here.

After some thought, I have changed position. This could be a good idea... I am tentative because lore discussions very easily turn into flame wars, but why not. I'll have a conversation with Soundscopes about it.

 

I've made several threads that focus on feedback for major changes in the lore, and I also take heavy consideration from feedback in general through skype, PMs, OOC, or Byond chats with players.

This allows me to control the environment that the discussion is taking place. I am extremely flexible with my mode of operations, and constructive criticism can alter my course or even open up entire new opportunities for the lore.

I feel having an entire board dedicated to it would be problematic, but if this is something we desire as a whole I'd be willing to consider it.

My fear is that we end up how my threads for lore changes ended up - long winded and argumentative. Some people are really, really invested in their idea for what should be in the lore being included, and then you have 40 other people wanting things and disagreeing.

I've been trying to balance community feedback with the reality that I can't please everyone or accommodate the entire community over every single decision.

But on the other hand, it was brought to my attention that apparently everyone is socially anxious and think I'm some uber jock giving swirlies to nerds, and despite me repeatedly saying to contact me through any medium (even putting this in my sig and im just going to bold and underline it ffs) several times some faction has sprung up and I hear hearsay that x amount of people are getting super angry at me and want to change y, but no one of the x people ever contact me about y.

Which is weird. Inverted_Rectum is one of the few people who regularly brings me his gripes over lore related matters, and since he's been constructive with these gripes the dialogue has been very constructive. I think that if I can possibly hammer it into our collective heads that you have a lot of power over the lore just by grabbing me when I have free time and having a pleasant conversation with me over a lore matter. If it makes sense, and I think it'll be fun, I'll roll with it or adjust my own plans.