The Political thread, V.2

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

So welcome to tyto's Political thread, as you know I tend to inflame the OOC with my usual political talk, especially when someone fanatically opposed to my views comes around, which is understandable since I hold relatively niche and extremist views, however I have created this thread for everyone to discuss politics free of persecution. Let's start off with stating our ideological stance. Personally I'm a Fascist Monarchist, this of course is a blanket discription of my views as I hold Progressive views on the modern Social issues, despite this I still uphold the Power of the Church and state, As well as a strong dislike for Libertarian leftist politics.

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Fascism (note: there are several differences between fascism and nazism, the main one being that nazis are always fucking stupid) looks nice on paper but I'd never call myself a fascist. The term carries way too much baggage with it.

And to be entirely honest, you need to work on your grammar. You're not fighting the stereotype that fascists are dumb by misspelling description and capitalizing words that shouldn't be capitalized.

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

Fascism (note: there are several differences between fascism and nazism, the main one being that nazis are always fucking stupid) looks nice on paper but I'd never call myself a fascist. The term carries way too much baggage with it.

And to be entirely honest, you need to work on your grammar. You're not fighting the stereotype that fascists are dumb by misspelling description and capitalizing words that shouldn't be capitalized.

I don't spell well, and It's extremely hard to stop me from capitalizing random things.

[Jboy2000000]

I think I may be the perfect description of two things. The Anti-Vittorio, and the Anti-America. That is not to say I hold any strong resentment AGAINST America itself, however, I am strongly opposed against American law, as it stands. I am quiet frankly against the current standing on the country's stand on the death penalty, abortion laws, tax laws, even the standing of state Vs. federal laws. If you were to bring up any kind of conservative or "right-ist" minded law, I can almost guarantee Im opposed.

[Contextual]

I'm a moderate Fascist Republican with some fairly progressive/socialist views. I despise most when governments try to be something they're not.

 

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

How are you in the centre on the level of Government control, and claim to be a fascist.

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

I think I may be the perfect description of two things. The Anti-Vittorio, and the Anti-America. That is not to say I hold any strong resentment AGAINST America itself, however, I am strongly opposed against American law, as it stands. I am quiet frankly against the current standing on the country's stand on the death penalty, abortion laws, tax laws, even the standing of state Vs. federal laws. If you were to bring up any kind of conservative or "right-ist" minded law, I can almost guarantee Im opposed.

Assuming all of those whom are called "right wing" are right wing

[Jboy2000000]

Con, where did you get that chart made?

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

Con, where did you get that chart made?

Political test, look that up, and it's the first thing

[Tenenza]

Normally politics is something I don't care to touch on, but one aspect of facism makes me not like it. Facism as an ideology isn't constructive towards modern multinational scientific collaboration and free publishment. I'm big on academics transcending national boundaries, since scientific progress moves much faster and safer if academics from everywhere in the world can view and peer each other's work. It really cuts down on unethical and pointless experiments, as well as creates new avenues of research that would otherwise be impossible.

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

Normally politics is something I don't care to touch on, but one aspect of facism makes me not like it. Facism as an ideology isn't constructive towards modern multinational scientific collaboration and free publishment. I'm big on academics transcending national boundaries, since scientific progress moves much faster and safer if academics from everywhere in the world can view and peer each other's work. It really cuts down on unethical and pointless experiments, as well as creates new avenues of research that would otherwise be impossible.

 

Where is it stated, Fascism is against Multi-National Science?

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

Normally politics is something I don't care to touch on, but one aspect of facism makes me not like it. Facism as an ideology isn't constructive towards modern multinational scientific collaboration and free publishment. I'm big on academics transcending national boundaries, since scientific progress moves much faster and safer if academics from everywhere in the world can view and peer each other's work. It really cuts down on unethical and pointless experiments, as well as creates new avenues of research that would otherwise be impossible.

Whom stated it was against that?

[Jboy2000000]

 

Well, heres mine. Pretty much exactly what I thought it would.

[Tenenza]

Normally politics is something I don't care to touch on, but one aspect of facism makes me not like it. Facism as an ideology isn't constructive towards modern multinational scientific collaboration and free publishment. I'm big on academics transcending national boundaries, since scientific progress moves much faster and safer if academics from everywhere in the world can view and peer each other's work. It really cuts down on unethical and pointless experiments, as well as creates new avenues of research that would otherwise be impossible.

Whom stated it was against that?

Generally speaking, in order to have multinational scientific collaboration and free publishment, the scientists can't be employed by a government, and need to view themselves and their research as being devorsed from their parent nation. Facism as a principle seems, at least in my mind, to be interconnected with the ideas of nationalism and centralized and expansive government.

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

Normally politics is something I don't care to touch on, but one aspect of facism makes me not like it. Facism as an ideology isn't constructive towards modern multinational scientific collaboration and free publishment. I'm big on academics transcending national boundaries, since scientific progress moves much faster and safer if academics from everywhere in the world can view and peer each other's work. It really cuts down on unethical and pointless experiments, as well as creates new avenues of research that would otherwise be impossible.

Whom stated it was against that?

Generally speaking, in order to have multinational scientific collaboration and free publishment, the scientists can't be employed by a government, and need to view themselves and their research as being devorsed from their parent nation. Facism as a principle seems, at least in my mind, to be interconnected with the ideas of nationalism and centralized and expansive government.

 

Promoting your own scientists with pride, and Scientists collaborating with other scientists is very different, Fascists are not stupid, we won't prevent science, just because the findings don't declare the state a Miracle

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

But what are all of your opinions on Monarchism versus Republicanism.

[Tenenza]

Promoting your own scientists with pride, and Scientists collaborating with other scientists is very different, Fascists are not stupid, we won't prevent science, just because the findings don't declare the state a Miracle

 

*shrug*

I'm not saying facism is against scientific progress, it's just that the ideas held by it aren't necessarily constructive towards global collaboration. As a whole, government research data is often highly internalized and processed before it is even allowed for any peer review, much less publication or additional research. There is a certain culture to government scientists in all countries that they reserve the right to withhold their data indefinitely until they feel it's ready, compared to academic scientists who live in fear of not publishing enough data to sustain their career and thus will seek out any collaboration they can get.

[Jboy2000000]

I want to say Im opposed to Monarchy, a line of birth is not valid precondition of ruling authority.

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

I want to say Im opposed to Monarchy, a line of birth is not valid precondition of ruling authority.

Why? When they are important to your traditions, National pride, and hold as much power as a Parliamentary president would, that and most people whom live in monarchies would prefer to stay monarchies.

[Jboy2000000]

How is someone shot out of a queen's baby cannon more important to national pride than an elected official? What would happen if the birth line became lame, or mentally unfit to actually lead a country? It would be left to shambles until a new person was put into power somehow, and you can't just say "the next in line would be placed instead," because that would be wholly against the traditions that you said would be upheld by a continuous monarchy.

[rrrrrr]

Not surprised. I usually get something in the ballpark of this when I take this test.

[rrrrrr]

[Gollee]

[Jakers457]

 

I think it was my stance on sex that got me into this position. (Pun not intended)

[Dea Tacita]

 

I think I landed just about where I expected to be, given that I consider myself a social democrat more than anything.