Reyjakai Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Since the threat regarding IPCs picking up the language of the species that they pick (If they are a shell, which is in itself a problem that needs to be resolved), we need to have a chat about whether or not IPCs should be able to have their own unique language, as all other species do. The main problem here is that IPCs currently get tradeband, which can be learned by /all/ crew members, regardless of their race. This is hardly anything near a racial language, even though IPCs are considered a different race. I'm merely recommending that IPCs get their own language, as all other species get their own languages. This wouldn't even normally be a problem for me, but with the advent of my specific character's problem, they can't speak common anymore, which can be a pain in the ass. I really wanna know if there are any good reasons why this shouldn't be a thing. Link to comment
Reyjakai Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Since the threat regarding IPCs picking up the language of the species that they pick (If they are a shell, which is in itself a problem that needs to be resolved), we need to have a chat about whether or not IPCs should be able to have their own unique language, as all other species do. The main problem here is that IPCs currently get tradeband, which can be learned by /all/ crew members, regardless of their race. This is hardly anything near a racial language, even though IPCs are considered a different race. I'm merely recommending that IPCs get their own language, as all other species get their own languages. This wouldn't even normally be a problem for me, but with the advent of my specific character's problem, they can't speak common anymore, which can be a pain in the ass. I really wanna know if there are any good reasons why this shouldn't be a thing. Link to comment
Eliot Clef Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I was under the impression that tradeband is simply a stand-in until a unique language is implemented in the code. Is this not correct? Link to comment
Eliot Clef Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I was under the impression that tradeband is simply a stand-in until a unique language is implemented in the code. Is this not correct? Link to comment
Alberyk Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I was under the impression that tradeband is simply a stand-in until a unique language is implemented in the code. Is this not correct? Â Nearly sure it is. Still, I don't see how they can have their own tongue, most machines won't even share a common background, I mean; other aliens at least have a common cultural and biological background, while ipcs are just machines built by different people for different purposes. Link to comment
Alberyk Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I was under the impression that tradeband is simply a stand-in until a unique language is implemented in the code. Is this not correct? Â Nearly sure it is. Still, I don't see how they can have their own tongue, most machines won't even share a common background, I mean; other aliens at least have a common cultural and biological background, while ipcs are just machines built by different people for different purposes. Link to comment
Baka Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why not language that sounds like an old 56k modem with series of screeching and boops? Link to comment
Baka Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why not language that sounds like an old 56k modem with series of screeching and boops? Link to comment
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 01001101 01100001 01101011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101111 01110101 01101110 01100100 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100101 01101110 00100000 01101000 01100101 01100001 01110010 01100100 00100000 01100010 01111001 00100000 01100001 00100000 01101110 01101111 01101110 00101101 01001001 01010000 01000011 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00101110 Translation: Making it sound like binary when heard by a non-IPC would be good. Link to comment
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 01001101 01100001 01101011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101111 01110101 01101110 01100100 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100101 01101110 00100000 01101000 01100101 01100001 01110010 01100100 00100000 01100010 01111001 00100000 01100001 00100000 01101110 01101111 01101110 00101101 01001001 01010000 01000011 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00101110 Translation: Making it sound like binary when heard by a non-IPC would be good. Link to comment
Jboy2000000 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thats a good suggestion, but looking at the difference between sizes of binary and words, maybe not actual binary. Maybe instead of that, just have it so the language replaces every letter or word with a 0 or 1. Link to comment
Jboy2000000 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thats a good suggestion, but looking at the difference between sizes of binary and words, maybe not actual binary. Maybe instead of that, just have it so the language replaces every letter or word with a 0 or 1. Link to comment
LordFowl Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Morse code could work, and would work more efficiently than binary, -- .- -.- .. -. --. / .. - / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .-.. .. -.- . / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. / -... . / -- --- .-. . / ... .--. .- -.-. . -....- . ..-. ..-. .. -.-. .. . -. - --..-- / .- -. -.. / -.-. --- ..- .-.. -.. / .... .- ...- . / .- / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .- .--. .--. .-.. .. . -.. / - --- / .. - .-.-.- / .... --- .-- . ...- . .-. --..-- / - .... . / .. ... ... ..- . / .-- .. - .... / -.. .. .-. . -.-. - / -.-. --- -.. . ... / .. ... / - .... .- - / .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- / -..-. .- -. -.-- --- -. . -..-. / -.-. .- -. / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / .. - --..-- / . ...- . -. / .. ..-. / - .... . -.-- / -.. --- -. .----. - / -.- -. --- .-- / - .... . / .-.. .- -. --. ..- .- --. . --..-- / ...- .. .- / -.-. --- .--. -.-- .--. .- ... - .- .-.-.- Â However, the issue with binary/morse code, is that if we make it a code already established in real life, anyone could translate it via copypasta, which defeats the purpose. Of course, we could use a code that not many people know, but that just panders to the people who do know it. 4c 69 6b 65 20 68 65 78 61 64 65 63 69 6d 61 6c 2c 20 70 65 72 68 61 70 73 2e Link to comment
LordFowl Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Morse code could work, and would work more efficiently than binary, -- .- -.- .. -. --. / .. - / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .-.. .. -.- . / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. / -... . / -- --- .-. . / ... .--. .- -.-. . -....- . ..-. ..-. .. -.-. .. . -. - --..-- / .- -. -.. / -.-. --- ..- .-.. -.. / .... .- ...- . / .- / ... --- ..- -. -.. / .- .--. .--. .-.. .. . -.. / - --- / .. - .-.-.- / .... --- .-- . ...- . .-. --..-- / - .... . / .. ... ... ..- . / .-- .. - .... / -.. .. .-. . -.-. - / -.-. --- -.. . ... / .. ... / - .... .- - / .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- / -..-. .- -. -.-- --- -. . -..-. / -.-. .- -. / - .-. .- -. ... .-.. .- - . / .. - --..-- / . ...- . -. / .. ..-. / - .... . -.-- / -.. --- -. .----. - / -.- -. --- .-- / - .... . / .-.. .- -. --. ..- .- --. . --..-- / ...- .. .- / -.-. --- .--. -.-- .--. .- ... - .- .-.-.- Â However, the issue with binary/morse code, is that if we make it a code already established in real life, anyone could translate it via copypasta, which defeats the purpose. Of course, we could use a code that not many people know, but that just panders to the people who do know it. 4c 69 6b 65 20 68 65 78 61 64 65 63 69 6d 61 6c 2c 20 70 65 72 68 61 70 73 2e Link to comment
Jboy2000000 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 As far as I know, languages of are never the same with every round. Once a character was trying to find out their name if Siik'Maas, and it changed from one round to the other, and Scopes, I think it was scopes, told us that the language changes every round, and whoever says a word first decides what that word will look like in that language for the rest of that round. Taking that into account, we could just make words into completely random series of 0's and 1's. Plus, that way, theres a chance people will find funny stuff in the random binary and then everyone could have a good laugh. Link to comment
Jboy2000000 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 As far as I know, languages of are never the same with every round. Once a character was trying to find out their name if Siik'Maas, and it changed from one round to the other, and Scopes, I think it was scopes, told us that the language changes every round, and whoever says a word first decides what that word will look like in that language for the rest of that round. Taking that into account, we could just make words into completely random series of 0's and 1's. Plus, that way, theres a chance people will find funny stuff in the random binary and then everyone could have a good laugh. Link to comment
Reyjakai Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I wouldn't be opposed to it being a combination of beeps, whirrs, boops, pings, etc. Link to comment
Reyjakai Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I wouldn't be opposed to it being a combination of beeps, whirrs, boops, pings, etc. Link to comment
Conservatron Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 question why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language? Link to comment
Conservatron Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 question why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language? Link to comment
LordFowl Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The same reason why we give computers a language that nobody can really understand without a translator (Binary); to make communication between computers and programs within the computer easier and more efficient. Since the computers now are literally sentient, I don't know why they wouldn't exploit this language, or it could even be an intended design. Link to comment
LordFowl Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The same reason why we give computers a language that nobody can really understand without a translator (Binary); to make communication between computers and programs within the computer easier and more efficient. Since the computers now are literally sentient, I don't know why they wouldn't exploit this language, or it could even be an intended design. Link to comment
Reyjakai Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 question why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language? I always thought the idea was that if they are able to speak in their own language, (or communicate telepathically, like some species would) they would be able to more effectively convey an idea that would be more time consuming to convey in the other languages. At least that's how I've imagined the reason that robots speak the way they do. Link to comment
Reyjakai Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 question why would the creators of IPCs program them with a language nobody else could understand? why do they NEED a unique language? I always thought the idea was that if they are able to speak in their own language, (or communicate telepathically, like some species would) they would be able to more effectively convey an idea that would be more time consuming to convey in the other languages. At least that's how I've imagined the reason that robots speak the way they do. Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I support this idea only if the language sounds to everyone else like beeps and boops. IPC Greg beeps, "Beep boop. Boop beep beep boop bleep bloop beep boop beep." Link to comment
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