Make Protohumans Playable

[hivefleetchicken]

I think it would be cool if ghosts and observers could sign up to become one of the newly created prohotumans in genetics.

It would help strengthen the security and treatment of protohumans so that genetics has another excuse to be monitored for misconduct and/or mistreatment of the protohumans.

Not demanding this, but I think it would be somewhat cool if not pointless.

[MagnificentMelkior]

That would be cool if it didnt necessitate a retcon of protohuman SOP. As is, I'm allowed to blast them with radiation without consent, vivisect them, give them to other people with minimal regard for their safety ("hey, we wanna test our lawgiver on a protohuman!"), turn them back into monkeys, etc. And I want to keep that ability. But if occasionally they become sentient, that would be interesting.

[Owen]

Yeah, I am in favor of this. I have thought about it a few times. It is surprisingly fun to be tested on, I was put in the body of a proto-human once. And no, they should not gain anymore rights than they already have.

[MagnificentMelkior]

If this is implemented I think it should only be possible on certain protohumans, to avoid genetics turning into a spawning ground for the dead. Maybe protos that get telekinesis are permanently flagged as possible candidates? Reason being that it says "you feel smarter" when that happens, so It has a foundation for lore writing to stand on.

[Owen]

Well, I was thinking that you wouldn't be able to speak basic or something. Not sure, but I want them to be different. You really would have no knowledge about speaking in my opinion if you were a protohuman. Like you would have to do gestures or something. Not sure how proto-humans actually are, but I usually act like they are able to move around but are completely unable to realize what they are or where they are. Like I said, not sure how correct that is.

[hivefleetchicken]

Well, I was thinking that you wouldn't be able to speak basic or something. Not sure, but I want them to be different. You really would have no knowledge about speaking in my opinion if you were a protohuman. Like you would have to do gestures or something. Not sure how proto-humans actually are, but I usually act like they are able to move around but are completely unable to realize what they are or where they are. Like I said, not sure how correct that is.

 

As it stands (objectively), the second you make a monkey a protohuman it becomes completely stoic, rigid, and emotionless.

I want to at least make it so people can RP the "HOLY SHIT I AM THE SENTIENCE" before being cut in half and thrown down disposals.

[Owen]

I see where you are coming from. But do you really think they would even be able to communicate? I mean, they weren't even originally that species. I would be fine with this happening but I don't want them to be able to carry full conversation with the Geneticists or something. It just seems odd.

[MagnificentMelkior]

Well, I was thinking that you wouldn't be able to speak basic or something. Not sure, but I want them to be different. You really would have no knowledge about speaking in my opinion if you were a protohuman. Like you would have to do gestures or something. Not sure how proto-humans actually are, but I usually act like they are able to move around but are completely unable to realize what they are or where they are. Like I said, not sure how correct that is.

 

As it stands (objectively), the second you make a monkey a protohuman it becomes completely stoic, rigid, and emotionless.

I want to at least make it so people can RP the "HOLY SHIT I AM THE SENTIENCE" before being cut in half and thrown down disposals.

That's not true. Through much experience I have determined that protohumans as they currently are most likely possess very basic neurological reflexes, lizard brain stuff. They scream when you do really mean things to them like give them seizures or certain other things. They are problably comatose, literally. IRL people in comas can still track motion with their heads and will do so when they see new things, despite being totally brain dead aside from the stem.

[Carver]

I see where you are coming from. But do you really think they would even be able to communicate? I mean, they weren't even originally that species. I would be fine with this happening but I don't want them to be able to carry full conversation with the Geneticists or something. It just seems odd.

Interesting thing to note since we're merging soon. Baycode adds various languages specific to monkeys/farwas/etc (All of these being separate languages) that can be given to human mobs. You could very feasibly still have your protohumans chimpering and speaking gibberish. Downside, of course, it needs some sort of snowflake code for protos so it doesn't fuck over changelings, or people who get changed to and back from monkeys.