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[Resolved] LordRaven001 (HoS) Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal), Serveris6 (Jade Maerin), Prospekt (Booker) - Player Complaint


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BYOND Key: OneOneThreeEight

Player Byond Key: LordRaven001

Staff involved: Details regarding the incident were discussed with NursieKitty. She was watching LordRaven, the HoS, from the beginning in which they started beating a prisoner, to just about the tail end.

Reason for complaint: I'm accusing LordRaven001 of; blatant shitcurity play, disregard of the IC lore behind what an implanted head of security and cannot do in terms of regulation enforcement, general disregard for command staff procedure and ignoring the chain of command. Lying more than Ted Cruz as an implanted head of staff. I'm including the other two as they all vehemently defended the head of security and brought up falsified shreds of "evidence" in an attempt to justify their position on the matter. Also being shitcurity.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwtcw6dsc4wvzjo/log%202016-04-22%20%2811%2038%20pm%29.htm?dl=0

Full transcription of what happened.


Our story begins around the time Runtime gets taken away from me because I'm slightly abusing a bug with the meowspam. Several piles of gibs get spawned on me in the hallway for giggles by badmins. I emote crying, as this is horrible that my cat was taken from me. This is all just silly fluff and not related, however. Suddenly, though, I hear a brawl right outside the med lobby. I run in and witness a bar fight. HoS goes in to detain these folks. I help out by flashing the unruly who are still punching and slugging. HoS cuffs both. Great.


I examine the wounds of a particular med doctor who is standing there bleeding. I treat them, then notice his skull is fractured. I take him to med, fix him in under a few minutes, discharge him and tell the doc he's ready to go. Rachell, being rather unamused by the fact one of their doctors got stabbed, asks for the brawlers to be brigged for assault, at the very least.


A little later, I hear stuff about "re-education", but I mostly ignore it as I'm ensuring everything's set in med. Then Nia starts to clue common comms in on what is going on, and I immediately head over to the brig out of suspicion that something is wrong.


I walk over, wonder where Yoikio went to in security as he and Snyder were both initially detained together as a dynamic criminal duo. I hear the sounds of telescopic baton extending, slapping and then a lot of bludgeoning. I immediately step in after the HoS steps back into interrogation covered in red blood and take medical custody of Ali, as I scan them having broken limbs. The HoS tries to make an awfully untrue excuse that they were "breaking up a fight" and that's how they got their wounds, despite the fact I was the sole doctor responding to the bar incident from earlier that the HoS was wrongfully citing. I hear the security force spit the same crap the HoS likely shat into their ears, but Rachell knows for absolute certain that the truth neither the right did not lie with the security force.


I finally take Ali back and tell him he can stick around and sit tight in medbay for his own safety until I faxed CC on the matter. I then proceeded to operate upon him, I fixed all of his wounds in a single surgery visit, shook him up in a minute. Sat him in patient ward to chill out while I tried to write the fax. This was all I could get done before the situation escalated again.


The HoS makes a rather poor attempt at an apology, backing up his side of things by making excuses and not taking full responsibility for his own actions rather than the actions of two hooligans that got quite violent.


Despite that I had effectively ordered that Ali was to be in my care and none else until the situation was resolved, the HoS immediately seized my patient (that, granted, was treated, but I was officially protecting from the head of security) in spite of the fact that I had made a reasonable order on my side of the chain of command. I informed the HoS that they would be usurping my own authority in keeping my patients and they were not of the official inclination to be deciding who did or who did not require further treatment. They ignored me, of course, and defied my own authority, which held more importance than that of the HoS.

 

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Yes."
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Head of Security, Loyalty Implanted, All duties are in nanotrasens interests."
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Hold up in court, No."

 

LordRaven attempting to justify, again, blatant power-abuse. This is gross.


I'm afterward tossed around my medical bay, abused, flashed and thrown around by security in spite of the fact that I am command staff, head of my own department in which they were currently located within and the only thing I was doing was attempting to reason with drooling security officers, stop Ali from running and intervene from further beatings and shooting. Ali is then batonned, taken away, out of my custody, illegally. I put a borg on the prisoner to ensure they weren't further "re-educated", and I told them to ignore the head of security's orders as they have no authority nor expertise in employee health matters. Although, hilariously enough, the HoS tried to lecture me on stuff you don't just read out of a book, such as:

 

ÿRachell Pershing has thrown Scan (Yoiko Ali).
Rachell Pershing says, "That is what you gave him."
Nick Wolfwood says, "Case of incarceritis..."
CRASA states, "Null physical injuries detected."
[Common] Nanako Weiss exclaims, "On my way!"
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Right Food, Hairline Fracture."
Rachell Pershing says, "You damaged his right leg and broke his ankle bone. Hairline fracture."
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Hairline Fracture, Is Hairline."
Runtime purrs.
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Minaure, Bone gel, Fix"
Jade Maerin says, "That was from a bar fight, doctor."
Yoiko Ali holds back laughter
Rachell Pershing says, "Do you not know what a fucking hairline fracture is. It's a bone break."
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Was Also, Bar fight."
CRASA states, "Woe."
Runtime brushes against Rachell Pershing.
Vince Joghs says, "Rachell submit to authority they are professionals."
Rachell Pershing says, "He was not crippled in the bar fight. I scanned him then."
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal asks, "CRASA, Approval?"
Yoiko Ali yells, "It was from him beating me with a baton!"
CRASA buzzes.
Jade Maerin says, "So did half of medbay."
[Common] Nanako Weiss says, "Oh my, botany looks very pretty today"
CRASA states, "Patient appears physically fine."
Jade Maerin says, "You're the only one that claims it was broken."
Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Affirmative."
Rachell Pershing says, "Jade, think very carefully on who you wish to side with."
Runtime purrs.
Jade Maerin says, "Not broken, rather."
[Command] ESRA states, "Might I remind you that departmental cooperation is key."
Jade Maerin asks, "My supervisor? Obviously?"
Rachell Pershing asks, "Is this worth your job to kiss up to Mister Tentacles?"

 

How would a HoS know about sensitive surgical proceedings? This was a new character, there are no records of LordRaven001 of having used the aurorarecords database either. There's no mention of a Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal. I don't care if they're Skrell or not, it's not the place of someone that isn't a doctor to lecture someone else who clearly has that expertise, records and such, on how to be a doctor. Can I add metagaming here? I probably could.


Then some other bullshit about them trying to nab me with slander for the entire round, despite the fact I was telling the truth and not calling them "dick head dickhead dickenhead VII".


I then fill chloral into my hypo because I'm terribly worried about the HoS firing off like a loose cannon again, and also taking into consideration the mindless security mob backing a powertripper. I finally catch up to Snyder who is wounded. Yoikio Ali is nowhere to be found, they're off suit sensors as well, and I checked the brig 3 times for them. I was already initially at escape, so it would've been impossible for me to miss them getting dragged by a sec officer to escape. I grab the stroller of Snyder, I get disarmed, flashed and grabbed/tossed around for trying to take Snyder to escape without seeing her get beaten up again. I try to exit. HoS then tries to accost me. At this point, I'm in an extremely cornered position, so I opt to dose the corrupt officer (Jade Maerin) behind me so I can buy time for myself to run. I then stop, as the HoS seems like he wants to talk. I stop. I'm completely motionless. I'm still preparing for him to pull some bullshit on me. Of course, he does. He draws his baton, he approaches me, Rachell decides there's no way but to try to defend herself from a really pissed off robocopsquid. She gets lucky with a disarm, turns the baton on the HoS (despite getting slugged a few times), stuns them into unconsciousness, and then makes a run for it to the shuttle, the HoS getting left behind.


I am told that they complained in msay a fair deal about the affair, complaining that the CMO managed to disarm them, steal their baton and baton them in turn. Because apparently it's only okay when they abuse their power.


This whole time, a vampire was stealing critical research data and the AI told the HoS like a million times about it. The HoS clearly took more interest in "re-education" and getting his powerboner off on raggedy civs.


You know, this entire time, again. I put the security of the patients before the needs of the security department. Unsurprisingly, this is the same behavior I outlined in my previous complaint and the fact it's coming to its head again is really interesting. I defended myself and the interests of the patient, twice, each time I dealt with them both in my own way. I was forced to act the way I did. I was not going to bend over and allow others to come to harm again. That would be a mistake, because life is ultimately precious.


Now, I'm going to outline what I want done this time. I want LordRaven to be tempbanned from security roles, I want Gollee to consider the possibility that one of their own Duty Officers have more trouble conducting themselves in a proper fashion when playing security, and most certainly should not be an authority to follow in any case. Gollee, might I also remind you that you did not allow the same shit to fly with Bobbyswagger/Terrance Frank. You spoke with him multiple times, did you not? Terrance said, just about each time (I would know because I was a DO at the time he was first investigated, and that was the excuse each time), that he was doing his business as per the will of NanoTrasen. In spite of the fact that, they were actually not acting within acceptable boundaries. At all.


LordRaven is unable to be truthful in IC, especially wherein they exist in a position in-game to be the chief paragon of law, order, and justice, and are unable to lie or deceive to their peers when questioned in regards to their motives. And I want whoever is charged with watching the trial modlets to pay rather close attention to LordRaven while they're still undergoing their trial and consider whether they would be fit for a mod position after all.


Approximate Date/Time: 10-12PM EST, 22-APR-2016

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First things first ill poke all the involved parties about this complaint. I will say that even during antag rounds there is a standard to enforce for security even OOC. At an initial read i find it odd security is stealing patients from you. If the CMO says they need more treatment theirs really no room to argue....

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Greetings! I will explain my side of the story long and detailed like.


 

I'm afterward tossed around my medical bay, abused, flashed and thrown around by security in spite of the fact that I am command staff, head of my own department in which they were currently located within and the only thing I was doing was attempting to reason with drooling security officers, stop Ali from running and intervene from further beatings and shooting. Ali is then batonned, taken away, out of my custody, illegally. I put a borg on the prisoner to ensure they weren't further "re-educated", and I told them to ignore the head of security's orders as they have no authority nor expertise in employee health matters. Although, hilariously enough, the HoS tried to lecture me on stuff you don't just read out of a book, such as:

 

We flashed you after ordering you numerous times to stop hindering security efforts, Ali was not batonned at all, As Jade ordered me to just flash him in order to cease any injuries, As soon as he was flashed we arrested him, We had the medical borg CRASA, The Phsychitrist Vince, And the Medical Doctor Jay, All look at the prisoner they all deemed he was fine mentally and physically, So we took him away, His original charges were attempted murder, Assault on a head of staff, He stabbed Nia Snyder, Punched me, And then was flashed by Rachell Pershing, It also states in Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal's records that they have gone under intermediate medical training, Which in the real world means they can identify fractures, But not operate, its a basic class for nurses in Germany at least.


 

Then some other bullshit about them trying to nab me with slander for the entire round, despite the fact I was telling the truth and not calling them "dick head dickhead dickenhead VII".

 

Rachell Pershing asks, "Is this worth your job to kiss up to Mister Tentacles?


He also stated a few other things over the common radio I do not have the logs of, But remembered, They included "The Head Of Security is beating prisoners!" When they have zero proof of that in the slightest, And according to our regulations that is also slander.

 

I then fill chloral into my hypo because I'm terribly worried about the HoS firing off like a loose cannon again, and also taking into consideration the mindless security mob backing a powertripper. I finally catch up to Snyder who is wounded. Yoikio Ali is nowhere to be found, they're off suit sensors as well, and I checked the brig 3 times for them. I was already initially at escape, so it would've been impossible for me to miss them getting dragged by a sec officer to escape. I grab the stroller of Snyder, I get disarmed, flashed and grabbed/tossed around for trying to take Snyder to escape without seeing her get beaten up again. I try to exit. HoS then tries to accost me. At this point, I'm in an extremely cornered position, so I opt to dose the corrupt officer (Jade Maerin) behind me so I can buy time for myself to run. I then stop, as the HoS seems like he wants to talk. I stop. I'm completely motionless. I'm still preparing for him to pull some bullshit on me. Of course, he does. He draws his baton, he approaches me, Rachell decides there's no way but to try to defend herself from a really pissed off robocopsquid. She gets lucky with a disarm, turns the baton on the HoS (despite getting slugged a few times), stuns them into unconsciousness, and then makes a run for it to the shuttle, the HoS getting left behind.
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Nia Snyder was wounded because she was hitting a book against the reinforced window and constantly spamming her radio, And when I entered she pushed me over and attempted to handcuff me, She then grabbed a mini-hoe and attempted to stab me into the cold brace of death, So I hit her with my telebaton. Yoikio Ali, Was in the brig communal area wearing an orange jumpsuit, Orange jumpsuits always have vital trackers enabled, You constantly that entire shift have attempted to hinder security's investigation into one attempted murderers who almost stabbed me, and attempted to kill Nia, As such we ordered you to place Nia back in the brig and depart, We gave you ten seconds to do this, You constantly refused even though I have my baton, The FearRP in this situation would have made you leave, You are an untrained medical officer who according to skills and records, Have no training in combat in the slightest, You constantly refuse attempting to take the now attempted murderer Nia Snyder out of our custody, We flash you and then take the bed to the Physciatrist who offered to assist us, You then inject Jade with Chloryal and run off, That is when I order you to halt. You then charge at me disarm spamming until you push me, And beat me into unconsciousness before strolling off like nothing happened.


 

This whole time, a vampire was stealing critical research data and the AI told the HoS like a million times about it. The HoS clearly took more interest in "re-education" and getting his powerboner off on raggedy civs.


First off all, My skrell is a female character that would be impossible to get a "Powerboner"


The AI was watching the HoP steal the research data and I deployed my Detective, Booker, To ask him what he was doing over there, I would have gone over there personally had you not been trying to break out an attempted murderer who literally just hoed me in the face.


I would also like to add that Rachell Pershing, Even though seeing my bloodied skrelian face stated I was unharmed and focused on the prisoner Nia Snyder who had 5.0 brute damage to her leg were I hit it, While I was over to the left of her bleeding out, It is not until the Medical Cyborg came and treated me that I was fully healed.

 

LordRaven is unable to be truthful in IC, especially wherein they exist in a position in-game to be the chief paragon of law, order, and justice, and are unable to lie or deceive to their peers when questioned in regards to their motives. And I want whoever is charged with watching the trial modlets to pay rather close attention to LordRaven while they're still undergoing their trial and consider whether they would be fit for a mod position after all.

 

I am eighty percent truthful in IC, As my security head I will not reveal that the prisoner has just attempted to hoe me to death in the face of the comms in fear of panic, And I won't tell you the Chief Medical Officer, Were the location of two attempted murderer's are, And I think I do my job extremely well, If you have any complaints about me being staff about situations i've done OOCly that don't suit your fancy, Kindly post them here


http://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5617


Thanks!

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I am eighty percent truthful in IC

 

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Reassuring that you don't tell the truth 20% of the time, then.

 

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "Yoiko is being beaten by the HoS."

[Common] Yoiko Ali exclaims, "So enlightening!"

OOC: Iloldtoday: How do you do action messages?

You open Laptop Computer.

Robust Softdrinks beeps, "Robust Softdrinks: More robust than a toolbox to the head!"

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "I very clearly hear the flicking of his baton."

OOC: Crazytoast42: begin it with Me

[Medical] Abel Cox says, "Test again"

You close Crew Monitoring Console Laptop Computer.

[Common] Arrivals Announcement Computer states, "Jay Varis, Emergency Physician, has completed translation from offsite gateway."

You put Laptop Computer into the medical satchel.

OOC: Veradox: if you mean noise emotes like robutts

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "This is abuse of the HoS's position, he can not beat prisoners."

[Medical] CRASA states, "Welcome aboard, Jay Varis."

[Common] Rachell Pershing says, "That's the sound of him enabling his baton."

Rachell Pershing says, "That's the sound of him enabling his baton."

[Medical] Jay Varis yells, "Hello!"

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "He is also hitting him, smartass."

[Common] Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Negative,"

[Common] Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Hitting, No."

[Common] Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Teaching, Yes."

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "I just heard you hit him."

[Common] Jade Maerin says, "I don't hear anything, and I'm in the next room over."

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "You fucking liar."

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "I am hearing multiple hits."

Nia Snyder talks into the service radio headset

Rachell Pershing says, "Oh." [The part where Rachell hears the clicking of a telescopic baton and realizes the HoS is beating someone helpless in handcuffs.]

Rachell Pershing says, "Wow."

[Common] Nia Snyder says, "Nice cover, Jade."

Nia Snyder talks into the service radio headset

Rachell Pershing says, "Open up. This is my business now."

[Common] Abel Cox says, "Hes just showing some tough love"

[Common] Nanako Weiss asks, "Security, may i reopen the bar yet?"


*---------*

This is Yoiko Ali!

He is wearing a chef's uniform.

He is wearing a bomber jacket.

He is handcuffed!

He is wearing some white shoes on his feet.

He is wearing PDA-Yoiko Ali (Cook).

He has several bandaged tiny bruises on his upper body.

He has a small bruise on his left hand.

He has a clotted cut and a small bruise on his right foot.

His right foot is dented and swollen!

Physical status: [Active]

Medical records: [View] [Add comment]

ÿ!This gangly looking man stands at 5'... More...

*---------*

*---------*

This is Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal, a Skrell!

She is wearing a blood-stained head of security's jumpsuit. Attached to it is the waist holster!

She is wearing Dermal Armour Patch on her head.

She is wearing a blood-stained armored trenchcoat!

She has a security backpack on her back.

She is holding a blood-stained service radio headset in her right hand!

She has some blood-stained black gloves on her hands!

She has a security belt about her waist.

She is wearing some jackboots on her feet.

She has HUDSunglasses covering her eyes.

She is wearing Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal's ID Card (Head of Security).

She has a tiny bruise on her head.

Physical status: [Active]

Medical records: [View] [Add comment]

*---------*

Nia Snyder says, "Poor form, HoS."

Yoiko Ali is buckled to the steel chair by Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal!

Rachell Pershing says, "Head. Of security."

Yoiko Ali says, "My foot..."

Rachell Pershing says, "This is not justice."

Nia Snyder says, "You should never result to violence against a prisoner."

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal asks, "Correct?"

You have analyzed Yoiko Ali's vitals.

ÿ!Analyzing Results for Yoiko Ali:

Overall Status: 61.3% healthy

Key: Suffocation/Toxin/Burns/Brute

Damage Specifics: 0 - 0 - 0 - 38.7

ÿ!Body Temperature: 36.905°C (98.429°F)

ÿ!Localized Damage, Brute/Burn:

ÿ! Left hand: ÿ13.5 ÿ - 0

ÿ! Right foot: ÿ25.2 ÿ - 0

Subject bloodstream oxygen level normal | Subject bloodstream toxin level minimal | Subject burn injury status O.K | Subject brute-force injury status O.K

ÿBone fractures detected. Advanced scanner required for location.

ÿ!Blood Level Normal: 100% 560cl. Type: A+

ÿ!Subject's pulse: 87 bpm.

 

Just from a simple examine log, I deduced that Ali received those wounds rather recently and not from the bar fight, especially when I was right outside of evidence storage. Jade Maerin was intentionally ignoring it and trying (very poorly) to cover for the head of security's corruption. If you wanted to be a borderline bad cop, this is not how you do it. You made it so blatantly obvious that it was happening and you're trying to say that I had no proof of it, even when I had to fix the mess for you. That was the round for me, it was cleaning up the mess you were making while the AI was shrilling in Rachell's ear that the HoP had stolen critically important research and needed someone to stop them.

 

We flashed you after ordering you numerous times to stop hindering security efforts, Ali was not batonned at all, As Jade ordered me to just flash him in order to cease any injuries, As soon as he was flashed we arrested him, We had the medical borg CRASA, The Phsychitrist Vince, And the Medical Doctor Jay, All look at the prisoner they all deemed he was fine mentally and physically, So we took him away, His original charges were attempted murder, Assault on a head of staff, He stabbed Nia Snyder, Punched me, And then was flashed by Rachell Pershing, It also states in Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal's records that they have gone under intermediate medical training, Which in the real world means they can identify fractures, But not operate, its a basic class for nurses in Germany at least.

 

I was there for the full bar fight. The stabbing didn't happen until before you arrived. The damage was already done on the medical doctor, it was around then that they decided to throw punches at each other where you and I decided to intervene. I should probably note the only person that was bleeding during the fight was the medical doctor.


You were also wrong about hairline fractures, too. Something pretty uncharacteristic of a nurse, actually. Being a nurse doesn't make you a qualified bone surgeon, though. Records do, but: Bone-gel, bone-set, bone-gel. It works the same universally for all hairline fractures, standard fractures and bone breaks as they are all classified as the same under organ_external.dm. You fix bones all the same that way. If you don't know your shit OOCly, don't try to lecture someone who knows way more about their department and medical mechanics than you do.

 

status |= ORGAN_BROKEN
broken_description = pick("broken","fracture","hairline fracture")

 

Rachell Pershing says, "I don't. Care. You beat him after he was detained and cuffed."

 

Because you stated to me, "Show me proof" in spite of the fact I was a primary witness for these incidents, I should probably note that under that logic, those prisoners should've been released because your own testimonies don't mean shit if you don't have any evidence that they committed a crime. That's not the case, however, as officers are allowed to arrest people if they witness the crime happening themselves.

 

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal asks, "Rachell Pershing, Threat?"

Rachell Pershing says, "He's not a threat."

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Him, Not."

Yoiko Ali says, "What ISNT a threat to you, jesus."

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal asks, "You, Yes?"

 

I don't know why you thought of a medical doctor as more of a threat than the "attempted murderer" that was standing before you without handcuffs in the medical bay.

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I have to admit I haven't read everything in this post (tl;dr). But, I do know what delta is talking about and honestly, if someone needs medical treatment, it is to be handed off to the medical division with security supervision (if needed).

 

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Sourced directly from Corporate Regulations.


I was there, observing the situation briefly. It was late last night and I can barely remember it exactly, but I do remember the HoS ignoring the CMOs demands that this prisoner required medical treatment (whether it be psychological therapy or physical treatment).

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I have to admit I haven't read everything in this post (tl;dr). But, I do know what delta is talking about and honestly, if someone needs medical treatment, it is to be handed off to the medical division with security supervision (if needed).

 

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Sourced directly from Corporate Regulations.


I was there, observing the situation briefly. It was late last night and I can barely remember it exactly, but I do remember the HoS ignoring the CMOs demands that this prisoner required medical treatment (whether it be psychological therapy or physical treatment).

 

 

ÿRachell Pershing has thrown Scan (Yoiko Ali).

Rachell Pershing says, "That is what you gave him."

Nick Wolfwood says, "Case of incarceritis..."

CRASA states, "Null physical injuries detected."

[Common] Nanako Weiss exclaims, "On my way!"

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Right Food, Hairline Fracture."

Rachell Pershing says, "You damaged his right leg and broke his ankle bone. Hairline fracture."

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Hairline Fracture, Is Hairline."

Runtime purrs.

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Minaure, Bone gel, Fix"

Jade Maerin says, "That was from a bar fight, doctor."

Yoiko Ali holds back laughter

Rachell Pershing says, "Do you not know what a fucking hairline fracture is. It's a bone break."

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Was Also, Bar fight."

CRASA states, "Woe."

Runtime brushes against Rachell Pershing.

Vince Joghs says, "Rachell submit to authority they are professionals."

Rachell Pershing says, "He was not crippled in the bar fight. I scanned him then."

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal asks, "CRASA, Approval?"

Yoiko Ali yells, "It was from him beating me with a baton!"

CRASA buzzes.

Jade Maerin says, "So did half of medbay."

[Common] Nanako Weiss says, "Oh my, botany looks very pretty today"

CRASA states, "Patient appears physically fine."

Jade Maerin says, "You're the only one that claims it was broken."

Kiat'Vonten Akero'Shenal says, "Affirmative."

Rachell Pershing says, "Jade, think very carefully on who you wish to side with."

Runtime purrs.

Jade Maerin says, "Not broken, rather."

[Command] ESRA states, "Might I remind you that departmental cooperation is key."

Jade Maerin asks, "My supervisor? Obviously?"

Rachell Pershing asks, "Is this worth your job to kiss up to Mister Tentacles?"

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There is the fact that not only CRASA, But Vince Joghs, And Jay Varis all stated that he was medically stable mentally and physically, That and I witnessed zero wounds on him when I body scanned him, And mentally he was fine according to the Psychiatrist., I valued their opinions over yours as you have constantly harassed blocked security from doing their job, and had a personal stake in it.


And if were talking about authority, You instead of being scared of an attempted murderer, who almost killed a woman in front of you, Directly protect him and remove his handcuffs, obstructing the authority of the Head of Security, Who is in charge of all security operations and regulation enforcement.

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There is the fact that not only CRASA, But Vince Joghs, And Jay Varis all stated that he was medically stable mentally and physically, That and I witnessed zero wounds on him when I body scanned him, And mentally he was fine according to the Psychiatrist., I valued their opinions over yours as you have constantly harassed blocked security from doing their job, and had a personal stake in it.


And if were talking about authority, You instead of being scared of an attempted murderer, who almost killed a woman in front of you, Directly protect him and remove his handcuffs, obstructing the authority of the Head of Security, Who is in charge of all security operations and regulation enforcement.

He has a point, to be honest.


Yoiko is known to be a griefing pain in the rear end and I've seen him blatantly attack people for the most minuscule reasons.


Regardless of medical treatment coming first, if the prisoner is unoccupied by a security officer, they ARE TO BE CUFFED. It is a high security priority to keep prisoners secured and incapable of causing further regulation breaches. Alongside how the prisoner can easily backstab you just to save their own ass and escape, I've seen it happen many times. (Baldy McBalds grabs a scalpel, somehow gets you into a grasp, slits your throat, takes your ID, and now sparked a manhunt plus murdered you).



Basically, my conclusion to all this is that a player complaint is really not needed, it's a double-edged sword that can simply go both ways. It just seems like a petty complaint that can be binned and solved by a simple statement that, "Security is in charge of regulations and security operations, but they are to hand them over to medical if medical reasons are obviously there and need to be treated immediately, however they must be secured by security personnel if they are to have their handcuffs removed."

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Basically, my conclusion to all this is that a player complaint is really not needed, it's a double-edged sword that can simply go both ways. It just seems like a petty complaint that can be binned and solved by a simple statement that, "Security is in charge of regulations and security operations, but they are to hand them over to medical if medical reasons are obviously there and need to be treated immediately, however they must be secured by security personnel if they are to have their handcuffs removed."

 

An implanted head of security beat a handcuffed and restrained prisoner as "re-education", lied about not having done it to their command peers, imposed martial law and ignored the medical authority of a CMO in regards to wounded patients, broke regulations and the chain of command to ensure they would effectively get away with beating someone who was restrained and cuffed. I, the CMO, who displayed no physical acts of aggression whatsoever, was physically manhandled in disgusting ways while the security force roleplayed as Chicago cops.


This is fair to no one but the security force. It is the security force going directly out of their way to shit on the rounds of other people for their own personal enjoyment. It needs to stop, and the best way to start is by disciplining folks who provide an awful example to the security force.


This complaint is necessarily because there is already another incident like this still hanging in complaint limbo and there's little being done there. This one is supporting that one in order to outline consistent behavior.


Force was not necessary to be applied, yet it was applied anyway. It was not needed to beat someone, yet it was done anyway.

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Basically, my conclusion to all this is that a player complaint is really not needed, it's a double-edged sword that can simply go both ways. It just seems like a petty complaint that can be binned and solved by a simple statement that, "Security is in charge of regulations and security operations, but they are to hand them over to medical if medical reasons are obviously there and need to be treated immediately, however they must be secured by security personnel if they are to have their handcuffs removed."

 

An implanted head of security beat a handcuffed and restrained prisoner as "re-education", lied about not having done it to their command peers, imposed martial law and ignored the medical authority of a CMO in regards to wounded patients, broke regulations and the chain of command to ensure they would effectively get away with beating someone who was restrained and cuffed. I, the CMO, who displayed no physical acts of aggression whatsoever, was physically manhandled in disgusting ways while the security force roleplayed as Chicago cops.


This is fair to no one but the security force. It is the security force going directly out of their way to shit on the rounds of other people for their own personal enjoyment. It needs to stop, and the best way to start is by disciplining folks who provide an awful example to the security force.


This complaint is necessarily because there is already another incident like this still hanging in complaint limbo and there's little being done there. This one is supporting that one in order to outline consistent behavior.


Force was not necessary to be applied, yet it was applied anyway. It was not needed to beat someone, yet it was done anyway.

If this is true then I take back my previous statement, I'm not one for security shitters.


But, I feel the need that I don't need to post anymore after this. I'll simply see how this fleshes out, but yeah if the HoS was literally beating people and lying about it, alongside security helping them; then keep this open.


I hate security shitlers.

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If the CMO says they want to keep a patient for medical reasons its not security's or even the rest of medical' place to argue. Stay in your lane. The only one who could over rule this is the captain. That being said a large portion of this seems to be an IC conflict.


What i /dont/ think is IC is the HoS beating a prisoner and then lieing about it. That is straight up against your implant. Also, sure bone repair is mechanically simple but IC its a complicated procedure.

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If the CMO says they want to keep a patient for medical reasons its not security's or even the rest of medical' place to argue. Stay in your lane. The only one who could over rule this is the captain. That being said a large portion of this seems to be an IC conflict.


What i /dont/ think is IC is the HoS beating a prisoner and then lieing about it. That is straight up against your implant. Also, sure bone repair is mechanically simple but IC its a complicated procedure.

 

I can admit I maneuvered out of my lane a bit, And got in a head on collision with Rachel, I won't do it again as it is too much drama for what its worth.


But i've seen numerous other Heads of Security beat their prisoners into a near death state and zero repercussion from the admins or moderator team, The most I did was give him a hairline fracture which is a simple slit on the bone, Repairing a Hairline is literally the easiest medical procedure surgery wise, As they heal on their own, Anyone who read a book for a few seconds can figure out to place a carbon silicate plaster cast on a persons leg and advise them not to be physically active.


On the lying part, I deemed it was in Nanotrasens interest not to tell Rachell Pershing or the crew to insite panic, Should the other command staff besides Rachell Pershing ask, I would have told them as they did not have a personal attachment to this case.


Nanotrasen is a corrupt corporation and has eliminated people for speaking wrongly about them, Giving someone a hairline fracture for inciting rebellion into the crew teaches them a lesson not to cross Nanotrasen, The internal security department is there to protect Nanotrasens interests not the crew.

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Hos's or security that beat cuffed or detained prisoners that arent handled by moderation staff is a problem on our end. You are professionals in the security field, not thugs off the street. You do NOT "teach the crew a lesson" and even if its a simple thing to fix it still /fucking hurts/.


You are not going to justify or explain away any part of it with "any idiot who reads a book can slap a cast on". Nanotrasen is pretty immoral at best and straight up corrupt at worst, ill give you that. You however are not. You're a professional.


The lieing bit. You lied to a fellow head of staff for the wrong reason. Personal attachment or not they are a fellow head and as such entitled. Again, you're implanted. At best your implant would force you to confess to the crime of beating a prisoner and submit yourself to disciplinary action.


Your philosophy here is also in question you seem to be under the impression security acts as a sort of secret police rooting out dissidents and "educating the masses". You are a REACTIVE force on site to ensure corporate regulations are followed.


Im going to discuss this a bit with other staff before i pass a judgment.

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Alright so, since Delta has requested that Gollee deals with the conduct of LordRaven, I will speak with LordRaven about their concerns and see what I think about their conduct. I can see where your concern comes from due to LordRaven's rank.


Update #1: I have spoken with LordRaven and have decided that, he knows what he did wrong and that I will leave the rest of this in the hands of the admin dealing with the complaint. I will continue to observe LR's conduct with the CCIA Division but I don't believe that a single mistake warrants a removal or punishment to a member of the Division. If this sort of behavior does continue, make sure to let me know, I will speak with them again and further actions may occur.

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Alright so, since Delta has requested that Gollee deals with the conduct of LordRaven, I will speak with LordRaven about their concerns and see what I think about their conduct. I can see where your concern comes from due to LordRaven's rank.

 

I don't remember saying this at all.

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Deleted my previous post because I messed something up.


No, that's totally not what I meant. Read as, "Hey Gollee, you should probably review this incident with LordRaven", as in a partial solution. Because not only is this not really that great security conduct, it indirectly reflects on them as a DO as well. If they're unable to abide by the same security standards they claim to be against and investigating, then there's an issue.

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Deleted my previous post because I messed something up.


No, that's totally not what I meant. Read as, "Hey Gollee, you should probably review this incident with LordRaven", as in a partial solution. Because not only is this not really that great security conduct, it indirectly reflects on them as a DO as well. If they're unable to abide by the same security standards they claim to be against and investigating, then there's an issue.

 

Oh sorry! I completely took that the wrong way. Anyway, I talked to them about it.

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I have reviewed this with other staff members and we have reached a consensus. The problems i outlined with your security play where echoed by multiple staff members. This type of security play and indeed this kind of head of staff play is extremely over the line. A one week ban from all security roles will be placed on you as of the time of this post.

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