Remove the Jumpsuit Regulations or Remove the ability to roll down jumpsuits

[Brightdawn]

So I'm not a salty person, I'm really not.

But seriously this is the single dumbest thing I've ever seen on what five years playing this game, I had a character arrested for 20 minutes for not rolling up a jumpsuit.

Why even have the options in the character creation if we're not allowed to use them, I argue we should remove the option or remove the roll down jump suits, its /really/ dumb and just ends up punishing new players when you have bad security officers on.

[DatBerry]

20 minutes? What did they charge you with?

And its there for tajaran, since they overheat in 20c

[Guest Menown]

> Bad security officers

> Following regulations

You're mad because a regulation was enacted that you refused to follow. Despite being told several times to follow it, you decided to take off running. You were told to stop, and you kept running. So you got tased.

Calling security 'bad' when you decided to neglect a regulation is childish. You were charged with Neglect of Duty, and Failure to Execute an Order. Apparently there was a resisting arrest charge applicable, but I don't know if it was even added.

[Brightdawn]

> Bad security officers

> Following regulations

You're mad because a regulation was enacted that you refused to follow. Despite being told several times to follow it, you decided to take off running. You were told to stop, and you kept running. So you got tased.

Calling security 'bad' when you decided to neglect a regulation is childish. You were charged with Neglect of Duty, and Failure to Execute an Order. Apparently there was a resisting arrest charge applicable, but I don't know if it was even added.

 

Its Arbitrarily taking away character customization options for no reason, explain to me from a game play or hell an IC perspective why people can't have jumpsuits rolled down.

I've worked plenty of jobs for a multitude of different company they let you wear T-shirts hell they provide them.

Its not a problem with how you acted as much as the rule itself, it genuinely makes less than zero sense because it just screws over newer players and restricts what people can do in a RP environment without a good reason to do so.

[DatBerry]

Its Arbitrarily taking away character customization options for no reason, explain to me from a game play or hell an IC perspective why people can't have jumpsuits rolled down.

I've worked plenty of jobs for a multitude of different company they let you wear T-shirts hell they provide them.

Its not a problem with how you acted as much as the rule itself, it genuinely makes less than zero sense because it just screws over newer players and restricts what people can do in a RP environment without a good reason to do so.

 

I think it was added because people kept going around as half naked females, not sure why it would break regulations for jobs like miners, roboticsts and engineers, i know one CE who always has his suit rolled down

[rrrrrr]

Have you considered rolling it up when you are asked to

[Guest Menown]

How does it screw them over? It's not like we went "DOWN ON THE FLOOR CRIMINAL SCUM!"

You were informed of the regulation and given several chances to comply with it. Your own statement of 'I've worked jobs where they give you t-shirts' is null, since you basically stated you wore a uniform you were provided, yet in-game you weren't following uniform regulations.

I'm all for the changing of it. Hell, I'd rather we had non-jumpsuit variants of all of the uniforms. What I don't like, is you calling security shit for following a regulation put in place, and saying we're "bad" for following it. We don't exist to make your life hell, that's why we gave you many opportunities to comply with it.

[Brightdawn]

Alright then seeing as my points not getting across let me point out every single thing you shouldn't be able to wear for each department but are:

Bunny Slippers - Every Department

Plaid Skirts - Anything that's not a Bartender or Librarian

White Jumpsuits - Botanist

Red Jumpsuits - Medical

Black Jumpsuits - Medical, Anything that has to go into space

Clown and mime Suits - Anything that's not a Bartender

Nurse outfit - All jobs

All shoes but black and brown shoes - Every job

Saloon Girl Outfit - Every Job

Bride outfits - Every job

Stripper wear - Every job

Flippers - Every job

Monocle - Every job

Sunglasses - All jobs but security

All Jumpsuits but the ones you start in - Every job

Kilt - Every job but bartender

Suits - Anything that's not a Bartender, Librarian or Chaplain or IA

Pirate outfit - Anything that's not a Bartender

Most of the Dresses - Every job

The Owlman costume - Every job

All collectable Hats - Every job

Any hat thats not related to your job - Every job

Literally anything that you didn’t start by default

Do you see why the uniform regulations are dumb now, unless you go around arresting literally everyone who’s not wearing just small accessories it’s not realistic, and I think we can all agree that would be terrible.

I could of not got lazy near the end there and listed about 50-100 more items I'm not even joking.

[Zundy]

This was added to stop the bizzarely large amount of half nekkid men and women running around station.

Just roll up your jumpsuit when told to do so, then roll it back down like every other stone cold OG cargo tech/shaft miner/ does.

Also it's only sec that actually needs to wear their full on uniform, everyone else gets a fee pass within reason (read: not a wedding dress for surgery).

Just calm yourself. Your sodium levels are off the charts.

[Owen]

As stated previously, this was implemented to stop personnel from running around half naked. This is not going to be removed because someone arrested you for breaking regulations. It makes perfect sense for this to be a thing anyway, you shouldn't be running around half-naked or in a costume. You are on-station to work not play dress up.

[Brightdawn]

As stated previously, this was implemented to stop personnel from running around half naked. This is not going to be removed because someone arrested you for breaking regulations. It makes perfect sense for this to be a thing anyway, you shouldn't be running around half-naked or in a costume. You are on-station to work not play dress up.

 

T-shirts aren't half naked, you're saying that the saloon girl outfit which is actually someone being half naked is allowed but a T-shirt isn't?

Like just say wearing T-shirts or vests is okay, that sorts out /all of this/.

[Owen]

As stated previously, this was implemented to stop personnel from running around half naked. This is not going to be removed because someone arrested you for breaking regulations. It makes perfect sense for this to be a thing anyway, you shouldn't be running around half-naked or in a costume. You are on-station to work not play dress up.

 

T-shirts aren't half naked, you're saying that the saloon girl outfit which is actually someone being half naked is allowed but a T-shirt isn't?

Like just say wearing T-shirts or vests is okay, that sorts out /all of this/.

 

No, the issue was having characters who had no undershirt, male or female had their jumpsuits rolled down 24/7. If someone is in a saloon girl outfit as a Medical Doctor or Security Officer, most likely they are going to be asked to change. There is leniency towards some civilian roles but you are expected to be in proper clothing/uniform at all times your character is on duty.

[Brightdawn]

Then add that to the rule, Its perfectly reasonable to not have someone half naked, its not on the other hand to not have say Miners or people on break to be able to wear T-shirts.

[Owen]

Then add that to the rule, Its perfectly reasonable to not have someone half naked, its not on the other hand to not have say Miners or people on break to be able to wear T-shirts.

 

This is already a regulation. "i105 Indecent Exposure or Hooliganism. "To be intentionally and publicly unclothed..." "...Skrell are required to be clothed just like anyone else. Tajaran can have rolled down jumpsuits unless ordered by their Head of Staff to keep it up."

[Brightdawn]

Then add that to the rule, Its perfectly reasonable to not have someone half naked, its not on the other hand to not have say Miners or people on break to be able to wear T-shirts.

 

This is already a regulation. "i105 Indecent Exposure or Hooliganism. "To be intentionally and publicly unclothed..." "...Skrell are required to be clothed just like anyone else. Tajaran can have rolled down jumpsuits unless ordered by their Head of Staff to keep it up."

 

So the rule is completely redundant and takes away from character customization?

Do you see the problem here, the law is there its great but that rule takes away from T-shirts and tank tops and I mean why even have those then, it'd be a cool thing to add onto adding more T-shirts and Tanktops and something I was planning to do along with new hairstyles but there's no point now .

The hairstyles are being added yes but I really don't understand why this regulation is even a thing when space law has something against it already!

[Owen]

Then add that to the rule, Its perfectly reasonable to not have someone half naked, its not on the other hand to not have say Miners or people on break to be able to wear T-shirts.

 

This is already a regulation. "i105 Indecent Exposure or Hooliganism. "To be intentionally and publicly unclothed..." "...Skrell are required to be clothed just like anyone else. Tajaran can have rolled down jumpsuits unless ordered by their Head of Staff to keep it up."

 

So the rule is completely redundant and takes away from character customization?

Do you see the problem here, the law is there its great but that rule takes away from T-shirts and tank tops and I mean why even have those then, it'd be a cool thing to add onto adding more T-shirts and Tanktops and something I was planning to do along with new hairstyles but there's no point now .

The hairstyles are being added yes but I really don't understand why this regulation is even a thing when space law has something against it already!

 

How does this take away from character customization? You still have the same options in your character creation screen. The Corporate Regulations and the regulation that you are talking about, go hand in hand. One was developed off of the other. The only thing that is different about the regulation that you have brought up is that it was made more specific.

There is nothing saying that you cannot wear other clothing like whatever you were saying would be cool to add. It says this on the posts on the forums, "All persons aboard any and all NanoTrasen vessels, employed, contracted, visitor, or otherwise, must not roll down their jumpsuits, or must keep their shirts on if their department does not utilize or require jumpsuits."

You are still allowed to wear T-Shirts or other types of clothing if jumpsuits are not a required thing.

[Brightdawn]

This is already a regulation. "i105 Indecent Exposure or Hooliganism. "To be intentionally and publicly unclothed..." "...Skrell are required to be clothed just like anyone else. Tajaran can have rolled down jumpsuits unless ordered by their Head of Staff to keep it up."

 

So the rule is completely redundant and takes away from character customization?

Do you see the problem here, the law is there its great but that rule takes away from T-shirts and tank tops and I mean why even have those then, it'd be a cool thing to add onto adding more T-shirts and Tanktops and something I was planning to do along with new hairstyles but there's no point now .

The hairstyles are being added yes but I really don't understand why this regulation is even a thing when space law has something against it already!

 

How does this take away from character customization? You still have the same options in your character creation screen. The Corporate Regulations and the regulation that you are talking about, go hand in hand. One was developed off of the other. The only thing that is different about the regulation that you have brought up is that it was made more specific.

There is nothing saying that you cannot wear other clothing like whatever you were saying would be cool to add. It says this on the posts on the forums, "All persons aboard any and all NanoTrasen vessels, employed, contracted, visitor, or otherwise, must not roll down their jumpsuits, or must keep their shirts on if their department does not utilize or require jumpsuits."

You are still allowed to wear T-Shirts or other types of clothing if jumpsuits are not a required thing.

 

You can only see the T-shirts and vests if you're in a job that starts with a jumpsuit.

So it does take away from character customization there is literally no difference between having the Black, White, Tanktop or nothing at all because no-one can see it, if the rule was changed so when the Tajarans have to roll their jumpsuits up was applied to every race then it'd be fine, other wise only Tajarans get the benefits.

I'm fine with that sort of thing normally I think all the races should get different benefits but this one is arbitrary and silly.

I get that this is a minor thing and all but I honestly think it does detract a little from the game, I understand your points and everything Owen it's the rules and you've had problems with it in the past but I think with some very minor adjustments it could be fixed easily.

[LordRaven001]

Um, They have there jumpsuits rolled down 24/7 because Tajarans get spammed with "Your overheated fur itches" every fucking second and its literally the most annoying thing in the game, That's why you have to make friends with sec, they don't care if your jumpsuit is rolled down, Unless your being aggressive about it, Just re-roll it down when sec tells you to roll it up, ezpz.

[Owen]

You can only see the T-shirts and vests if you're in a job that starts with a jumpsuit.

So it does take away from character customization there is literally no difference between having the Black, White, Tanktop or nothing at all because no-one can see it, if the rule was changed so when the Tajarans have to roll their jumpsuits up was applied to every race then it'd be fine, other wise only Tajarans get the benefits.

I'm fine with that sort of thing normally I think all the races should get different benefits but this one is arbitrary and silly.

I get that this is a minor thing and all but I honestly think it does detract a little from the game, I understand your points and everything Owen it's the rules and you've had problems with it in the past but I think with some very minor adjustments it could be fixed easily.

 

Well, the reason that the Tajara are allowed to have it down, and this is the only reason is that they get overheated. This isn't even an RP thing that they do. They eventually take damage. I believe it may be halloss but I am not sure.

I would also like to ask, why this is such a large concern to you? Like, it is two different color underclothing. I will think about having an exception to some civilian roles but anything outside of civilian is completely logical to have to be in a jumpsuit and there is no reason to have it rolled down.

[Brightdawn]

Um, They have there jumpsuits rolled down 24/7 because Tajarans get spammed with "Your overheated fur itches" every fucking second and its literally the most annoying thing in the game, That's why you have to make friends with sec, they don't care if your jumpsuit is rolled down, Unless your being aggressive about it, Just re-roll it down when sec tells you to roll it up, ezpz.

 

Yep yep I know that don't worry!

The rules with the Taj's are very fair but I feel that they could easily be applied to everyone ya' know It'd help character customization, having to go around rules like that just makes me think "Why are they here in the first place?" people shouldn't be encouraged to break regulations like this its just a bit silly to have one to be honest, if it was like the Taj version I think it'd be completely fair!

[Brightdawn]

You can only see the T-shirts and vests if you're in a job that starts with a jumpsuit.

So it does take away from character customization there is literally no difference between having the Black, White, Tanktop or nothing at all because no-one can see it, if the rule was changed so when the Tajarans have to roll their jumpsuits up was applied to every race then it'd be fine, other wise only Tajarans get the benefits.

I'm fine with that sort of thing normally I think all the races should get different benefits but this one is arbitrary and silly.

I get that this is a minor thing and all but I honestly think it does detract a little from the game, I understand your points and everything Owen it's the rules and you've had problems with it in the past but I think with some very minor adjustments it could be fixed easily.

 

Well, the reason that the Tajara are allowed to have it down, and this is the only reason is that they get overheated. This isn't even an RP thing that they do. They eventually take damage. I believe it may be halloss but I am not sure.

I would also like to ask, why this is such a large concern to you? Like, it is two different color underclothing. I will think about having an exception to some civilian roles but anything outside of civilian is completely logical to have to be in a jumpsuit and there is no reason to have it rolled down.

 

I hope you don't mind if I copy and paste from my other post here but:

"Yep yep I know that don't worry!

The rules with the Taj's are very fair but I feel that they could easily be applied to everyone ya' know It'd help character customization, having to go around rules like that just makes me think "Why are they here in the first place?" people shouldn't be encouraged to break regulations like this its just a bit silly to have one to be honest, if it was like the Taj version I think it'd be completely fair!"

I'll add onto that though, I care because it detracts from game play and could be fixed in a matter of seconds.

[Nanako]

Hey brightdawn.

You remind me of me

This isn't the hill to die on

[Brightdawn]

I did a double post I'm a dummy!

Edited May 7, 2016 by Guest

[Brightdawn]

Hey brightdawn.

You remind me of me

This isn't the hill to die on

 

I disagree, I normally wouldn't do something like this it causes drama, anger and it usually all ends in tears.

The only reason I posted in the first place was because of how salty I got over it but the more I look at it the more I think, "This only hurts players".

I'll give an example, say its your first day playing on the server a sec officer stops you because you have your uniform rolled down and charges you with neglect of duty, most players would think "Oh that must be a joke" its such a silly rule to enforce and it takes away from a character.

But lo' and behold it's not and you get arrested, most new players would ether leave or complain to the admins, if the ones that complain find out that yes it is indeed a law they'd probably leave.

Thats just one example but do you see how damaging something like that would be to the servers reputation as a whole if it happened to the wrong person?

And that's only one of the problems with this regulation but I feel its one I haven't covered in my previous posts.

[Owen]

Hey brightdawn.

You remind me of me

This isn't the hill to die on

 

I disagree, I normally wouldn't do something like this it causes drama, anger and it usually all ends in tears.

The only reason I posted in the first place was because of how salty I got over it but the more I look at it the more I think, "This only hurts players".

I'll give an example, say its your first day playing on the server a sec officer stops you because you have your uniform rolled down and charges you with neglect of duty, most players would think "Oh that must be a joke" its such a silly rule to enforce and it takes away from a character.

But lo' and behold it's not and you get arrested, most new players would ether leave or complain to the admins, if the ones that complain find out that yes it is indeed a law they'd probably leave.

Thats just one example but do you see how damaging something like that would be to the servers reputation as a whole if it happened to the wrong person?

And that's only one of the problems with this regulation but I feel its one I haven't covered in my previous posts.

 

What do you mean, "If it happened to the wrong person" I highly doubt that forcing someone to roll up their jumpsuit would completely destroy the server's reputation. I feel like you are making this a way bigger issue than it really is. I still am not really convinced with having this changed.