Jakers457 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Now I'm not suggesting this because I'm against people charging for their services, hell I think they should sometimes. It's mainly due to the constant circlejerk argument of not being allowed to charge people, which is a load bull if anything. The EFTPOS were placed there, ICly, so the department can charge if they so choose to. If we think of it with some logic, why would NT place EFTPOS scanners into departments and then claim it's against regulation to use them? But with people failing to comprehend this, I suppose it's best if we did away with them and avoid the mess all together. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Or change SOP (again) so it is possible to do this. As employees of NanoTrasen with investment accounts/Spess 401ks, I think it's fair to justify the fact that NT has the right to strip an employee's privilege to access their funds or even put a cork on withdrawals or deposits altogether. Link to comment
SgtSammac Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Also, sec fines rely on EFTPOS, although it seems I am the only warden/officer that I see asking to get one from cargo. I must admit I would love to see SOP have the barkeeper charging for drinks, specifically alcohol, because getting free alcohol in a workplace is retarded as fuck. Link to comment
Jakers457 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 Also, sec fines rely on EFTPOS, although it seems I am the only warden/officer that I see asking to get one from cargo. I must admit I would love to see SOP have the barkeeper charging for drinks, specifically alcohol, because getting free alcohol in a workplace is retarded as fuck. But then the darling crew throw a fit. I also find it fair for cargo to charge for crates, unless the order is stamped by a Head of staff. Link to comment
Erik Tiber Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Also, sec fines rely on EFTPOS, although it seems I am the only warden/officer that I see asking to get one from cargo. I must admit I would love to see SOP have the barkeeper charging for drinks, specifically alcohol, because getting free alcohol in a workplace is retarded as fuck. I agree, it makes more sense for the bartender to charge for drinks to discourage alcohol consumption at least somewhat. Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 30% to prove this isn't a necessary idea, I just had Houssam get HoP access + authority to run the bar, kitchen, and botany as a singular restraunt. Beer was free, other drinks were 2 credits, and meals ranged from 5 - 7 credits. People were fine with it. Two people ordered drinks and handed their IDs over for the payment, and at least one person ordered the full meal offer before the server crashed. There was a small disagreement about pricing with the HoP, but no one was argumentative or "I DEMAND FREE EVERYTHING" about it. I'll be doing it again, regardless. Link to comment
Tenenza Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 30% to prove this isn't a necessary idea, I just had Houssam get HoP access + authority to run the bar, kitchen, and botany as a singular restraunt. Beer was free, other drinks were 2 credits, and meals ranged from 5 - 7 credits. People were fine with it. Two people ordered drinks and handed their IDs over for the payment, and at least one person ordered the full meal offer before the server crashed. There was a small disagreement about pricing with the HoP, but no one was argumentative or "I DEMAND FREE EVERYTHING" about it. I'll be doing it again, regardless. It was fun. We need to do this again sometime, defintely. Perfect place to run an extortion ring out of. Link to comment
Tainavaa Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 I have a feeling they're referring to when Tina got on Jamison for charging people for crates. I would have allowed charging people for crates if they were recreational. Otherwise, a department needs what a department needs. You can't charge an individual worker out of pocket for necessary department supplies. That's kind of what cargo is there for in the first place. Link to comment
Jakers457 Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 I have a feeling they're referring to when Tina got on Jamison for charging people for crates. I would have allowed charging people for crates if they were recreational. Otherwise, a department needs what a department needs. You can't charge an individual worker out of pocket for necessary department supplies. That's kind of what cargo is there for in the first place. That was one situation, but I've seen many situations where people get chastised for trying to make a buck, or occasionally get ganked by the crew. Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have a feeling they're referring to when Tina got on Jamison for charging people for crates. I would have allowed charging people for crates if they were recreational. Otherwise, a department needs what a department needs. You can't charge an individual worker out of pocket for necessary department supplies. That's kind of what cargo is there for in the first place. That was one situation, but I've seen many situations where people get chastised for trying to make a buck, or occasionally get ganked by the crew. Ahelp it, file a complaint, or an incident report. It's been stated before that breaking into places or hurting the chef/bartender for not giving you free shit is against the IC law. Link to comment
Tainavaa Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have a feeling they're referring to when Tina got on Jamison for charging people for crates. I would have allowed charging people for crates if they were recreational. Otherwise, a department needs what a department needs. You can't charge an individual worker out of pocket for necessary department supplies. That's kind of what cargo is there for in the first place. That was one situation, but I've seen many situations where people get chastised for trying to make a buck, or occasionally get ganked by the crew. You should be chastised for trying to make a buck in cargo. You're making money at NanoTrasen's expense. Any recreational orders should be charged with the money going into NanoTrasen's account. Otherwise it's embezzlement. What Jackboot's doing with the restaurant thing, to make it a profitable business for him WITHOUT it being illegal, he'd have to order all the food supplies on his own expense or cut NanoTrasen a slice of the pie. Link to comment
Erik Tiber Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 You should be chastised for trying to make a buck in cargo. You're making money at NanoTrasen's expense. Any recreational orders should be charged with the money going into NanoTrasen's account. Otherwise it's embezzlement. What Jackboot's doing with the restaurant thing, to make it a profitable business for him WITHOUT it being illegal, he'd have to order all the food supplies on his own expense or cut NanoTrasen a slice of the pie. The station already has its own account apparently, so it should be possible for people to pay Nanotrasen for the various products. Link to comment
Tainavaa Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 You should be chastised for trying to make a buck in cargo. You're making money at NanoTrasen's expense. Any recreational orders should be charged with the money going into NanoTrasen's account. Otherwise it's embezzlement. What Jackboot's doing with the restaurant thing, to make it a profitable business for him WITHOUT it being illegal, he'd have to order all the food supplies on his own expense or cut NanoTrasen a slice of the pie. The station already has its own account apparently, so it should be possible for people to pay Nanotrasen for the various products. I'm aware, but Jakers explicitly stated being chastised for making an extra buck. The implication is that all the proceeds go to him. Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have a feeling they're referring to when Tina got on Jamison for charging people for crates. I would have allowed charging people for crates if they were recreational. Otherwise, a department needs what a department needs. You can't charge an individual worker out of pocket for necessary department supplies. That's kind of what cargo is there for in the first place. That was one situation, but I've seen many situations where people get chastised for trying to make a buck, or occasionally get ganked by the crew. You should be chastised for trying to make a buck in cargo. You're making money at NanoTrasen's expense. Any recreational orders should be charged with the money going into NanoTrasen's account. Otherwise it's embezzlement. What Jackboot's doing with the restaurant thing, to make it a profitable business for him WITHOUT it being illegal, he'd have to order all the food supplies on his own expense or cut NanoTrasen a slice of the pie. The scanners are linked to the station's civilian account. NT is making the money. Low-scale embezzlement is possible, though. And that's not a /bad/ thing, RP wise. Link to comment
Tainavaa Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 No it's not. I honestly don't know how EFTPOS works, so I only assume they're making the money especially with what Jakers said. IC it's a thing to be concerned with though as a head, so. I was. Link to comment
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 No it's not. I honestly don't know how EFTPOS works, so I only assume they're making the money especially with what Jakers said. IC it's a thing to be concerned with though as a head, so. I was. No, you don't understand. I linked the scanners used to the station account. Large image: Link to comment
Tainavaa Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I wasn't referring to you. I got what YOU were saying. I was talking about the cargo techs in particular. Link to comment
enkas Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have a feeling they're referring to when Tina got on Jamison for charging people for crates. I would have allowed charging people for crates if they were recreational. Otherwise, a department needs what a department needs. You can't charge an individual worker out of pocket for necessary department supplies. That's kind of what cargo is there for in the first place. Thing is, in the case of department needing the crate, it would be stamped by a head, and as Jamison did state at the start, a stamp gives a free crate. So I feel like it was completely justified. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Charging for crates is fine in my eyes, as long as the money goes into the Civilian or Station account. Link to comment
LetzShake Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Charging for crates is fine in my eyes, as long as the money goes into the Civilian or Station account. I was going to say it's bad because a non-head has no access to their department's account, but this means that cargo would have to keep bookkeeping records of what each department owes them. Which is good RP, I think. Link to comment
Lady_of_Ravens Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 How about... standard prices? 'Cause I've noteced a lot of variation in how the bar charges, when it does. Similarly, cago bay charging a set price based on point cost for recreational supplies not stamped for by a head. Stuff that's used by a department (say, metal and inflaitable barriors for engineering) shouldn't be charged for, even if their's no head of staff around to stamp it. Link to comment
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